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post #5881 of 5908 Old 12-29-2014, 02:12 AM
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I would pay to hear a side by side comparison of the T2 vs T3 vs One. With the big price jump up to the T3 it would be interesting to see how much the law of diminishing returns comes into effect. Let us know what you think!
Heck forget the T2, lets put it next to a Revel F208 or Kef R900 and see if it is $2500 superior to them.
Maybe I'm underestimating Paul Barton.
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PSB Image B6s & B4s Get New Home

As a Christmas present, I passed my 2 year old PSB Image B6s and B4s on to my grandson. Wish I had picked up a C5 or C4 before they sold out, then I could have given him a complete set.

Any ideas what center would work well with the B6s?

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As a Christmas present, I passed my 2 year old PSB Image B6s and B4s on to my grandson. Wish I had picked up a C5 or C4 before they sold out, then I could have given him a complete set.

Any ideas what center would work well with the B6s?

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Hi Mike. The C5 was replaced by the Imagine XC. The XC is almost identical to the C5 and will be perfectly fine with the B6's.
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Can PSB Image 3LR handle my amp?

Hello all,

I was recently given a pair of PSB 3LR's and an image 8C center. I have a Pioneer Elite VSX 91-THX Receiver that I would like to use to power the speakers so I can bi-amp the fronts. The 3LR's are rated at 6 ohm and at that resistance my amp would put out 150 continuous to each channel. I can't find specs for the 3 speakers and not sure if I would overpower them or not.

Any help here would be appreciated!
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Hello all,

I was recently given a pair of PSB 3LR's and an image 8C center. I have a Pioneer Elite VSX 91-THX Receiver that I would like to use to power the speakers so I can bi-amp the fronts. The 3LR's are rated at 6 ohm and at that resistance my amp would put out 150 continuous to each channel. I can't find specs for the 3 speakers and not sure if I would overpower them or not.

Any help here would be appreciated!
All 3 are rated at 150 watts so should be fine. Most speakers give fairly generous wattage limits to allow for peaks.
At 92db those are very efficient speakers also, so there is no way you could handle listening to them at full volume without going deaf
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All 3 are rated at 150 watts so should be fine. Most speakers give fairly generous wattage limits to allow for peaks.
At 92db those are very efficient speakers also, so there is no way you could handle listening to them at full volume without going deaf
But, if I am bi-amping them, wouldn't that double the wattage to 300 per speaker?
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But, if I am bi-amping them, wouldn't that double the wattage to 300 per speaker?
No, because the drivers will only draw the wattage they need being its a passive crossover. So the low pass will get the full 150 now if you crank it up at max, but the high pass will only ever need 10 (roughly). So at max volume you would be getting a little more than 150 but not much.
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Hi Mike. The C5 was replaced by the Imagine XC. The XC is almost identical to the C5 and will be perfectly fine with the B6's.
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Are the T3's $7500 per pair? If yes, they're up against some tough competition. The Focal Electra 1028BE is a tough one to beat at this price range. I've heard good things about the Revel F208 at $5K per pair. They are on my list to audition.
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Yes, $7500 per pair. The Synchrony Ones were $5500 per pair before they were closed out in late 2014.

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still have C5 for sale?

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BTW only have my Image C5 center for sale still..


150$ (steal of the century )

I would like to buy the C5, if you still have please let me know
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Tatikonda I have one for sale C5 and pair T6 if you interested for $850
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Tatikonda I have one for sale C5 and pair T6 if you interested for $850
Hard to tell, are those dark cherry or black ash?
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They are black ash...
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Heck forget the T2, lets put it next to a Revel F208 or Kef R900 and see if it is $2500 superior to them.
Maybe I'm underestimating Paul Barton.
Don't have the Revel but last year I did borrowed a dealer's T2 and did a side by side comparo with my R900 in my own house. The T2 isn't bad at all but the R900 is much more coherent. For movies the T2 seems more exciting on the upper end.
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Im thinking of upgrading some of my speakers. Here is what I currently have:
PSB Alpha A/V (Fronts)
PSB 200 (Center)
PSB Ambient II (Di-pole Surrounds)
PSB Century Subsonic 2i

PSB Alpha A/V Compact Monitor, Rear Ported (One 1 3/4")
One 1/2" Polymer Dome Tweeter
One 6 1/2" Polymer-Coated Fiber Woofer
Nominal Impedance: 6 Ohms
Sensitivity: 90 dB/w/m
Manufacturer's FR Specs: 68 Hz - 21 kHz ± 3 dB
Size: 12 3/4"H x 7 3/4"W x 9 3/4"D
Magnetically Shielded
Weight: 11 Pounds Each

PSB 200
One 1/2" poly-flare dome with Ferrofluid Tweeter
Two 5 1/4" polypropylene with rubber surround Woofer
Nominal Impedance: 8 Ohms
Sensitivity: 90dB
72 - 21,000Hz
Size: 6.5" x 19.25" x 9.4"



The sub has done well and I'll probably keep it. Also, the Di-poles are great so they stay. So I guess I'm considering new fronts and a center. I'm confused about having larger fronts. If I crossover to the sub, won't that defeat the purpose of having larger speakers? I'm using a Yamaha RX-V3900 which won't be upgraded this year (and maybe not next). I know on the Yamaha I can set the fronts to small or large and they are currently set to small. How much of an improvement would I get moving to a larger center and fronts. Say a Image C5 and Image T6's or current equivalent?

Room is 14 X 48 completely open and the screen is on the 14 ft wall at one end of the room. Seating is about 17 ft from screen.
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Finally placed an order for my PSB Imagine X Series speakers. I went with the XT2, XC, and XB speakers for my home theater build. Can't wait till they arrive.

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currently i own psb image t45, c40 + bookshelves.
Im going to be upgrading to possibly either, paradigm studio 60 or monitor audio silver 8.
I wanted to compare also with the imagine t2, but its over my budget unfortunately.

however, I want to listen to the imagine t since its more in my budget.
but wanted to know, can I mix the imagine t with the imagine c3 center?
and would the imagine t be much inferior compared to the others I mentioned?
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Let's see what response I get in this section. Lol I currently have some older Klipsch RF-3's and I found a pair of PSB Image 6t for sale on CL. Do you think that would be a decent upgrade? Also what center channel goes with those towers?
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Let's see what response I get in this section. Lol I currently have some older Klipsch RF-3's and I found a pair of PSB Image 6t for sale on CL. Do you think that would be a decent upgrade? Also what center channel goes with those towers?

For the center I believe you need the 9c.
Is it an upgrade? Not sure never heard either. You should definitely audition it, doesn't seem like a huge upgrade to me, but it's your ears that count.
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PSB In-Walls and In-Ceiling Speakers

Hi everyone! I am thinking of joining the PSB Owners club so............ Just thought I would ask here if anyone has the PSB W-LCR2's installed and how they like them? I am thinking of doing a 7.2/5.2.4 setup and I would use 5 W-LCR2's and then 4 more from the PSB line for the ceiling.


Getting a demo of almost any in-wall or in-ceiling speaker is difficult, any comments from people that have these installed would be great. There are a large amount of speakers in this price range and would like to know if they sound awesome for HT and for music listening. It is not a dedicated room so there will be lots of music listening as well.


Thanks for anything helpful in advance!


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Hi everyone! I am thinking of joining the PSB Owners club .....
I just did!

I have long been wanting to try out a pair of Imagine Bs or Ts, but I recently noticed what I thought looks like a screamin' deal on a pair of Synchrony 2Bs from an authorized dealer for about half price, so I had to pull the trigger. I also picked up a set of the noise-cancelling PSB headphones.

Tracking for the shipping shows that they arrived today. I'll check out the headphones tonight, but it may be this weekend till I get to try out the bookshelves. Looking forward to it.
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I want to audition the imagine t2, how big of a jump is it from the image t45?
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Psb imagine xb speaker review
Panurgic, Sonics, Badinage enough said!

I have the priviliege of reviewing Paul (Sue) Barton's (PSB) Imagine XB bookshelf speakers and the NAD D3020 in my home studio in a 2 channel setup only.

Having warmed up the Imagine XB's with a variety of music to break-in the drivers (in which i am a firm believer) the words to describe them are panurgic, sonics, badinage.

Before i describe the sound of the XB's i want to comment on the packaging as often i find in reviews no-one comments on how the manufacturer takes time to make sure you get an undamaged package.

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The PSB imagine XB's were attached to the NAD D3020 2 channel processor ($600). 16 guage speaker wire. An Onkyo 7030 CD player with Wolfson DAC and a Toshiba Satelite 650 (MP3) were used to evaluate these speakers. Toed-in to 15 degrees at the main listening position (MLP).


(P)ANURGIC
The word panurgic means to be good at all kinds of tasks. That is the best characteristic to describe these little gems. The PSB Imagine XB's sound like more expensive speakers than their asking price of $500 a pair.



Kiesza's Sound of a Woman is well produced. Her voice sounds pronounced on the XB's. I was quite impressed by just how well these speakers did in imaging. It sounded like she was in the center of the room. I was surprised at the openess the Imagine XB's offer.
I thought well, maybe it was the production and that other less produced recordings (MP3) would not sound as good. I was wrong.....



I used Sade's Ultimate Collection and again the Imagine XB's didn't break a sweat. They met every demand Sade's tracks gave them.


(S)onics
Bookshelf speakers are supposed to sound tinny and not be very good at handling dynamics? Not an issue with these guys. I switched music sources on the NAD D3020 to my computer and sent MP3 recordings to the XB's. I was not disappointed with what i heard. I set my MP3 player on the Toshiba Satelite 650 on random. A few tracks that were surprisingly detailed for an MP3 besides Sade's Ultimate Collection was...




Tori Amos: Flavor and Winter from Gold Dust. This is a great album for listening to the imaging and nuances of your speakers. Tori is accompanied by an orchestra for the entire album. The Imagine XB's seamlessly integrated Tori's piano into my listening area. Each key stroke was easily heard and if I closed my eyes I could almost picture her playing in my studio.



As i couldn't wait to get back to the Wolfson DAC of the Onkyo 7030, i decided to switch from dance and r&b music to blues. I wanted to listen for detail i know very well in the Black Keys tribute to the late, great Junior Kimbrough. Chulahoma is my go to disc for blues. Work Me and Nobody But You were the songs that the XB's were faced with. The amount of detail these speakers possess are well worth the money. The scales Dan Auerbach's fingers run down can be made out with ease. The vocals so enthralling that i had to listen to the tracks over again. Bass with the Imagine XB's is ample for a bookshelf speaker.



My most trusted source for testing the sonics of speakers is Chris Cornell's Songbook CD. I used the tracks: As Hope and Promise Fade and Wide Awake. The Imagine XB's were pure listening delight. The acoustic guitar intricacy that Chris uses were so crisp and present with the XB's that as a reviewer, i was raving!

(B)adinage
Playful these speakers are. After putting the XB's through the paces with MP3's and a host of CD recordings, badinage is the only word to describe my conclusions. As a prosepctive buyer out there in the world keep these words in the back of your mind when auditioning the PSB Imagine XB's (Panurgic, Sonics, Badinage). Truly a speaker that can handle whatever you send its way.

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(B)adinage
Playful these speakers are. After putting the XB's through the paces with MP3's and a host of CD recordings, badinage is the only word to describe my conclusions. As a prosepctive buyer out there in the world keep these words in the back of your mind when auditioning the PSB Imagine XB's (Panurgic, Sonics, Badinage). Truly a speaker that can handle whatever you send its way.
Thanks for the detailed report. Very informative. I just want to add that versatility has always been the hallmark of PSB speakers going as far back as the "century" line, maybe even further.
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image B4's for sale ...black ash pair..pristine condition as new.

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I am regrettably listing my PSB Synchrony One towers in cherry for sale. Local sale only in San Diego.

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