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I got some pics of the new gold bookshelf I will post later when my wife gets home with the camera. As always, beautiful wood finish from monitor audio.

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Selling my beloved Monitor Audio Gold GS10 in walnut finish..detail is in the for sale -> audio gear section..

I recently moved to a new house and while the new family room is much better for the front LCR and subwoofer placement, the room layout does now allow me to get enough clearance between GS10 used as surround and side walls..

I was fortunately enough to find a brand new pair of the GSFX in walnut finish at great price from Saturday Audio and it is with sad heart that I am selling my GS10
(wife demanded it after asking what the charge was on our credit card statement...)

I am located in SF Bay Area and would prefer local pickup..
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Have any of you guys hear Monitor Silver 8's vs KEF R500's? What is the sound difference? The cabinets looks very similar..
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Edited: no impressions till I put my own Cd in and listen to them for you. Whenever my veneres get here I will make sure to do that.

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What makes the Kef's more expensive? Some people don't know what tight clean bass is.
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The 8 inch bass driver silver 8s retail around 2k a pair and can be had for a bit less at audioadvisor. The r series tower with 8 inch drivers is 5k and hard to find cheaper than that. The r500s got for about 2,500 andis a smaller sspeaker than the silver 8

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The 8 inch bass driver silver 8s retail around 2k a pair and can be had for a bit less at audioadvisor. The r series tower with 8 inch drivers is 5k and hard to find cheaper than that. The r500s got for about 2,500 andis a smaller sspeaker than the silver 8

Silver 10 has the 8" drivers, 6.5s on the 8


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Yes,they both have 6'5" drivers. So the question was.. What makes the Kef's more expensive? Both speakers look so similar,why would Kef be so much more?
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more resolving, better cabinet, better measurements all around. Stereophile has measurements

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Better cabinet? How so? The monitor audio RX8's have a really good cabinet, I dont know how kefs could be better.
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I'd say the R series is more in line with the monitor golds. The silvers seem to fall between the kef Q and R. I heard the R700 a few years ago and liked them. Didn't do a head to head with the rx8, but the rx8 had better bass, not as bright as the paradigm studios, and the UniQ driver puts out a huge sweet spot that really impressed me.


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With the Kef R,your getting into Revel,Focal,BW CM10 territory. I remember the Gloss black RX8's I had. The build quality was impeccable! I found a place that has Kef and Monitor Audio. I'll have to listen to them and see,but they are at different places. The Silver 10's are $1000 less than the Kef R700's. I just wonder if that extra 1k is worth it.
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PS. I wonder how the Mirage OMD 28 stacks up against the silver 10's and R700.
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KEF R700: "The impedance traces reveal none of the small wrinkles that would point to the presence of panel resonances, and the R700's large enclosure was quite dead to the knuckle-rap test. Investigating the panel's vibrational behavior with an accelerometer did uncover a mode at 488Hz on the sidewalls level with the lower woofer (fig.2); also present was a mode slightly lower in frequency, at 449Hz, on the top panel and the sidewalls level with the coincident Uni-Q unit. However, all of these resonant modes are relatively low in level; this, coupled with their high frequency and Quality factor (Q), will minimize any audible effects

SILVER : "A significant discontinuity just below 300Hz in the impedance traces suggests some sort of cabinet-resonance problem at that frequency. I did find a strong resonant mode at 301Hz on the top and rear panels (fig.2), and another strong mode at 410Hz on the side panels, level with the midrange unit. Lower, and level with the woofers, the side panels were relatively inert; as Kalman Rubinson commented that "male voices . . . didn't sound overripe," it's probable that these resonances measure worse than they sound."
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I guess the point is,unless you have these side by side are you really going to notice any of that? If the Kef sounds bright,I would be turned off.
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Thttp://www.stereophile.com/content/m...r-measurements
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the resonance decay graph for the silver isn't even on the same level as the r700.

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So what your saying is the Silver is a poor man's R?
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Better cabinet? How so? The monitor audio RX8's have a really good cabinet, I dont know how kefs could be better.
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Its too bad I can't demo both in the same location.. I have a feeling a guy would be happy with the Silver 10's also. Wonder how the Martin Logan 60XT stacks up.
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I won't say that until I've given it a good listen. Which as soon as I go to pick up my speakers I will do.

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I thought the 40's sounded a little bright,but after I listened more,it wasn't bright,it was detail. I haven't heard the 60's yet. Just wondering how the Silver 10's,R500,700,60xt's sound compared to my Electromotion ESL's. Which ones did you order? The Silver 8's?
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i ordered sonus faber venere 3.0's.
i'm done with metal dome tweeters. i've lived with them for long enough although that's not what fully deterred me from them. when i went to audition, most of the speakers i'd heard were metal dome and as time passed i continued to hear a resemblance throughout them. Sandy Gross calls this the "hifi zing" it's hard to explain but domes pop sound out and it's something along with the metalic timbre that i correlated as being fatiguing. Some of the speakers generate this metalic attribute even throughout the mid-range which is a big no no imo( cough Paradigm prestige.) To me, the veneres had a natural, organic sound while also having a pretty forward and dynamic sound that works great for home theater but can also be tamed for that laid back 2.0 musical sound with some tubes down the road. There's some definite cabinet resonance at the midbass but it didn't bleed into the midrange at all or discombobulate the lower resolution. I'm pretty picky so it's hard to find my perfect speaker for the perfect price. A little extra warmth is always fun lol

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the highs on panel speakers are golden. When i first auditioned, i heard some some very small maggies that sounded great. however i hate how the maggies radiate sound behind them and bounce off the wall. i never like localizing were sound is coming from. This setup was without a wall behind it so i did like it but it wouldn't be practical in my house let along be good for home theater. Martin Logans sound good too especially in the timbre and tonality, but i find the center image to be too small and the large gap between the vocals and instruments to me, isn't coherent to my brain as being musical

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You hit the nail on the head with metal tweeters. That's what I didn't like about the B&W's,Paradigms. Probably what I liked about the Sonus Fabers. The Aperion's sound really good too,just didn't like the hard plastic rubber like front and the grill reminded me of something made in a garage. I didn't buy the Venere's because I thought they felt cheap. The grill is super thin also. Of course this is just my opinion. The Logan's on the other hand light up the whole wall and sounds great. You could also put room treatments behind them to dampen the rear wave. Which center did you hear? I have the EM C2 matching center and it in no what sounds small or narrow. Might be a product of a different room. But the logan's sound awesome for home theater. But,I always wonder how the Faber's would sound in my room. You know how that goes
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Thanks for the information. I will be running these full-range but will have a single subwoofer on the LFE Channel. The Yamaha receiver only has a single crossover point, all the other channels will be crossed over at 80Hz and the 10s will be run full range.

I'm going to start with the UPA-200. I figure if I feel like I need more power later I can always sell or re-purpose that amp easily and upgrade later.
Turns out I talked to Emotiva. The UPA-200 has been discontinued and just went out of stock. They are preparing a new line of amps to replace the Ultra line that will be released in a few months. The only information he could give is that they will have a monoblock, 2-channel, 5-channel and 7-channel amp. So I can either wait for the new UPA replacements or move up the XPA line..
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I have a UPA-200 running my front heights..
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