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post #10921 of 10928 Old 08-22-2015, 09:00 PM
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Yeah Maybe i should upgrade from my silvers to the gold 300s. what did you sell your 8s for?
The dealer I had was excellent. They took back the silver 8s and credited full price I paid them and gave me the Golds for total of $5,100.
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The dealer I had was excellent. They took back the silver 8s and credited full price I paid them and gave me the Golds for total of $5,100.
That's nice deal, id highly doubt my dealer would take them back... I had them for about 6 months now...

But I'm still leaning towards a silver series HT and getting a new set of speakers for my music room like revel studio 2, or b&W 803
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Too loud?

Thanks to the advice I received here earlier in the year I have had a bronze BX system (2xBX6, BXC, and 2xBX2) minus the sub (SVS PB1000) for my HT since February. I paired it with a Yamaha aventage 1040, which is rated at 110w per channel. When I am watching movies I have it at -27db. My question is how loud can I get before I have to worry about damaging the speakers? I haven't gone past -27db because it would be hard trying to get the wife on board to replace speakers given the cost! When I am watching movies I would love for them to be a little louder, I am just hesitant. I've never had a set-up like this. I believe the max is +16.5db. Any advice would be awesome.
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Thanks to the advice I received here earlier in the year I have had a bronze BX system (2xBX6, BXC, and 2xBX2) minus the sub (SVS PB1000) for my HT since February. I paired it with a Yamaha aventage 1040, which is rated at 110w per channel. When I am watching movies I have it at -27db. My question is how loud can I get before I have to worry about damaging the speakers? I haven't gone past -27db because it would be hard trying to get the wife on board to replace speakers given the cost! When I am watching movies I would love for them to be a little louder, I am just hesitant. I've never had a set-up like this. I believe the max is +16.5db. Any advice would be awesome.
I dont know how yamaha has the master volume but on Denon, Marantz, Onkyo (calibrated with audyssey) you have so that at the 0 db on receiver is refrence level for movies (up to 105db peaks for speakers and 115db for sub very very loud) if you listen at -15 up to -10 (as i normally do) than that means 90-95db for speakers and 100-105db for sub...at listening position...you could try leveling your speakers with analog/digital SPL meter and set the speakers with internal test tones...when i didnt have audyssey i calibrated so that all the speakers measured 75db (internal pink test noise is normally -30db) at listening position (you will than see at what level on receiver is reference level)...my Marantz (audyssey) sets the bronze speakers at around -3,5 to -5,5db (in speaker level menu)...as for yamaha...they have a very low power at all channels driven usually at around 40 watts with 5 or 7 speakers driven...you can crank up the volume on receiver as loud so that everything is still clear if you would hear a distortion then back down the volume...let your ears be the guide
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The volume that can damage the speakers is far more dependant on the amplifier than the speakers.

A small amp will have high distortion and clipping at -15dB. A larger one will not.

I have a yamaha 3071 ( 3010 equivalent ) and I get audible distortion on even my gold 300s at -10 in a surround heavy blu ray like 7.1 dts ma like thor.

I think -10 should be a max on that receiver without additional external amplification.
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The volume that can damage the speakers is far more dependant on the amplifier than the speakers.

A small amp will have high distortion and clipping at -15dB. A larger one will not.

I have a yamaha 3071 ( 3010 equivalent ) and I get audible distortion on even my gold 300s at -10 in a surround heavy blu ray like 7.1 dts ma like thor.

I think -10 should be a max on that receiver without additional external amplification.


Thank you for the responses guys. I really appreciate it. Sorry for all the amateur questions but i'm still learning. Is clipping when the sound cuts out spontaneously and distortion when it sounds like a softer version of "snow" on televisions during quiet periods of the movie? How does distortion and clipping damage the speakers? Given my set up what would my best options be? Sell this receiver adn get another one or try to run external amplification?
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I dont know how yamaha has the master volume but on Denon, Marantz, Onkyo (calibrated with audyssey) you have so that at the 0 db on receiver is refrence level for movies (up to 105db peaks for speakers and 115db for sub very very loud) if you listen at -15 up to -10 (as i normally do) than that means 90-95db for speakers and 100-105db for sub...at listening position...you could try leveling your speakers with analog/digital SPL meter and set the speakers with internal test tones...when i didnt have audyssey i calibrated so that all the speakers measured 75db (internal pink test noise is normally -30db) at listening position (you will than see at what level on receiver is reference level)...my Marantz (audyssey) sets the bronze speakers at around -3,5 to -5,5db (in speaker level menu)...as for yamaha...they have a very low power at all channels driven usually at around 40 watts with 5 or 7 speakers driven...you can crank up the volume on receiver as loud so that everything is still clear if you would hear a distortion then back down the volume...let your ears be the guide
I watched Godzilla tonight and had a cheap app (i know) running on my phone. Peaked at 90db when the sub was really working at listening position. The receiver was set at -15db.
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I watched Godzilla tonight and had a cheap app (i know) running on my phone. Peaked at 90db when the sub was really working at listening position. The receiver was set at -15db.
It might be that the yamaha ypao also calibrates for the 0 to be reference level...but then again why not since the majority of us who gets the receiver are watching movies...

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