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I have used all your permutations, MA and B&W with both brands of amps successfully. So you can go ahead and audition them, then make the final decision.
My current gear is in my signature, but I have used MA, from Bronze to Gold, and B&W 805s, 804D etc... broadly speaking, my Rotel / Marantz amps worked fine, and I like a smoother sound, not the etching type with a bright treble.
How would Parasound halo amps work with marantz prepro (8802) with silver 8 and silver center ?
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How would Parasound halo amps work with marantz prepro (8802) with silver 8 and silver center ?

How would they work? Same as any other amp. Maybe you mean sound? I considered their amps but I was steered towards a Sunfire TGA-7401. It works well with My Marantz 8802A preamp and my Monitor Audio Gold GX 300 towers. The Halo's are excellent amplifiers, I do like the Sunfire for what I am doing.
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Monitor Audio is an interesting product line for sure. I spent some time with them at CEDIA and was impressed.
I've owned Wilson Audio, Aerial, Mirage, Artemis EOS, Revel, and have listened to Magico and Rockport speakers. I currently have Monitor Audio PL500 speakers and submit they are the most enjoyable speakers that I've ever owned. I can't see purchasing anymore speakers.
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The Golds are very nice can't imagine the Plats.

Note sure the average guy can justify the extra scratch.

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Hi Ricjor,

There are several reasons to pick the C350:
1) In Home Cinema, the center speaker is by far the most important one, it emits about 80% of the movie content. So it is the speaker not to compromise on.
2) You have PL500 front speakers , the C350 is their natural match as they have the same woofers.
3) even more important, the C350 is a full 3-way design instead of 2-way for the C250, this is a very important point for a center speaker as it helps avoiding very nasty mid-frequencies issues that the C250 has.

So PLC-350 is the obvious way to upgrade your system.

I am also surprised you drive such a high-end speaker system with a 5011, Marantz is a very nice complement to MA, but for your installation i think the second obvious upgrade would be to go to the 7011, more power and features, Audissey XT32, ...
Does anyone have a LCR stage that has all three as Gold 300s? I'm considering this setup, and would love to get some feedback.
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Does anyone have a LCR stage that has all three as Gold 300s? I'm considering this setup, and would love to get some feedback.
I do not have Gold 300s but I do have three Silver8s across the front. In fact, I have used 3 floorstanders for L/C/R for many years and believe that it is the ideal configuration.
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How would Parasound halo amps work with marantz prepro (8802) with silver 8 and silver center ?


I have that setup with the ancient silver i series all around including the idc380 in the ceilings.

What I can say is changing the system over time to where I am today has created massive improvements with the only constant. Ring the silver speakers. At this point I've gotten the system to a point where the speakers will be upgraded.

Starting point was a nakamichi receiver with a tube CD player, spent some time with a sun fire tga 7201 (the smaller 7 channel which I may be calling out incorrectly) moved to Parasound A23 and A52 and finally to an A31 across the fronts, a23 rears and zonemaster up top. Source is now a Sony hap-z1es. All balanced kimber hero cabling. I may go A21 to compliment the A31 but my next priority is speakers. Something like the silver, gold or maybe revel performa 3. Also using a monitor silver sub.

I think you system will sound great, at least to my ears.


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I do not have Gold 300s but I do have three Silver8s across the front. In fact, I have used 3 floorstanders for L/C/R for many years and believe that it is the ideal configuration.
Three of the same is always best no matter.

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I do not have Gold 300s but I do have three Silver8s across the front. In fact, I have used 3 floorstanders for L/C/R for many years and believe that it is the ideal configuration.
How did you manage to get a hold of a single tower?

I talked to a MA rep and was told singles never become available here in Canada.
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I do not have Gold 300s but I do have three Silver8s across the front. In fact, I have used 3 floorstanders for L/C/R for many years and believe that it is the ideal configuration.
I have the Gold GX 300 Towers front and rear. I have the Gold GX 350C Center speaker which is like a Gold GX 300 with the woofers flanking the midrange / tweeter combo. So it's almost like 5 identical speakers pointed at me. I can say that no matter what the identical drivers are pointed at me from all 5 speakers. It's the best sounding system I've ever had.

Now the subwoofer is next on the replacement list. An oldie but goodie Velodyne F-1800R II currently fills out the .1 in my system. I'm thinking a Rythmik F15HP or possibly some other subwoofer I've become aware of being announced soon.
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The Golds are very nice can't imagine the Plats.

Note sure the average guy can justify the extra scratch.
I understand your point, but I'm not rich. I've been lucky to meet a guy that I've become very good friends with and he has helped me get everything that I have. Who you know can be just as important as how much money you have.

I began this journey 30 years while stationed in Okinawa, Japan serving in the Air Force. I purchased a pair of Klipschorns and sold them when I returned to the U.S for more than I paid for them. I've bought and sold components for 30 years to get to this point.
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How would Parasound halo amps work with marantz prepro (8802) with silver 8 and silver center ?
Sound is a pretty subjective thing mate.. MAs tend towards the bright side, and Parasound amps aren't that warm IIRC, so have a listen and see if that works for you, cheers.
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..................... I have the Gold GX 350C Center speaker which is like a Gold GX 300 with the woofers flanking the midrange / tweeter combo.
Ah but it is that horizontal placement that makes the difference and why I don't use dedicated center speakers in either of my systems.

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How did you manage to get a hold of a single tower?
MA did me a favor as did B&W for my main system. A perk.
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How did you manage to get a hold of a single tower?

I talked to a MA rep and was told singles never become available here in Canada.
Really? That surprises me. It's not like they're boxed in pairs, so why would it be so hard to get a single? I can see a dealer not being willing to sell inventory like that, but it seems like it wouldn't be a problem for a dealer to special order a single from MA.
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How did you manage to get a hold of a single tower?

I talked to a MA rep and was told singles never become available here in Canada.
I know in the US, Crutchfield at the very least will sell a single tower. I'm sure other dealers would do the same. Apologies, not sure about Canada.
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I have the Gold GX 300 Towers front and rear. I have the Gold GX 350C Center speaker which is like a Gold GX 300 with the woofers flanking the midrange / tweeter combo. So it's almost like 5 identical speakers pointed at me. I can say that no matter what the identical drivers are pointed at me from all 5 speakers. It's the best sounding system I've ever had.

Now the subwoofer is next on the replacement list. An oldie but goodie Velodyne F-1800R II currently fills out the .1 in my system. I'm thinking a Rythmik F15HP or possibly some other subwoofer I've become aware of being announced soon.
I'm curious what other sub you are considering with your MA system? Rythmik F15HP and SVS PB-13 have been on my short list to complement a MA Gold setup.
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I'm curious what other sub you are considering with your MA system? Rythmik F15HP and SVS PB-13 have been on my short list to complement a MA Gold setup.
Take a look at Seaton Submerssive

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For some reason, http://www.seatonsound.net/ does not work. Do they not have an Internet presence?
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http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/po...ricing-3366417

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Hi there,

I have owned 3 A40 and 2 A10 for about 2½ years now, and thinking about upgrading my surround receiver. I need it for both movies and music (record player. And streaming when im too lazy to put on a record). Right now I have an Onkyo 608, so there is space for an upgrade.

I really hope someone can come with a few suggestions that will be good with the apex speakers.

Max price is around 13.000 DKR, which would be £1500/€1744 +/-

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Okay I need some help do I go Silver or Gold....

TL : DR --> Silver 10 or Gold 300? Also, at what price difference would it be worth it?

I listened to the Silver 8 and the Gold 300 and I don't know what to do. Speakers would be for a theater room and the front sound stage is off an Emotiva XPA-3 v2.

The Silver 8 I listened to yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. I had no thoughts of doing the Silver line but after giving them a demo I was shocked. The dealer told me if you like the Silver you will LOVE the Gold.

Okay then...time to hunt down a shop that has the Gold in stock. Today I went and checked out the Gold 300. I don't know if it was the room but I was not "wow-ed" like I was when I listened to the Silver 8. Maybe I was expecting more from what I've read using Google on the reviews for them.

There's no way for me to test them side-by-side in my room so this leaves me with a dilemma.

What I have now is the Aperion Grand Verus speakers with a Seaton Submerssive HP+ in a 7.1 configuration. Local friend is buying my Aperion's at a price that is really good for me since he's building out a house (and a theater). This got me thinking of going for the upgrade.

First I checked out Paradigm (with that free center deal). The 85F/95F sound nice but not "significantly better" to my ears like Monitor Audio's offerings are to my Aperion's.

If I went Silver it would be the Silver 10 (not the 8) because of the theater application. My concerns with the Silver are three fold:

1.) I heard the 8 not the 10
2.) The matching center is a 2.5 way driver not a 3 way
3.) Silver are 4 ohm Gold are 8 ohm. Emotiva seems to support the 4 ohm setup but would be 330 watts/channel. Too much power for them?
4.) Would I have buyer's remorse wondering what I'm missing since I didn't go for the Gold?

At the end of the day with the speakers I've found and the selling price of my Aperion's I'm looking at roughly a $2,700 difference between a Silver 10 package and a Gold 300 package (both with Bronze FX Surrounds...I'm not too worried about having high end surrounds).

EDIT - I just read the few posts above me. I own a Seaton sub...DO IT!!!

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Okay I need some help do I go Silver or Gold....

TL : DR --> Silver 10 or Gold 300? Also, at what price difference would it be worth it?
I'm very close with going with the Gold 300's. Apples to apples (e.g. same finish) the Silver 10's are $3,100 LESS than the Gold 300's. For a home theater, I think the Silver's work better, unless money is no object. I'd rather put $3k into other equipment, seating, etc.

At what price point do I think the Gold 300's are worth the extra cash? I'd say they're worth $2,000 more.

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I listened to the Silver 8 and the Gold 300 and I don't know what to do. Speakers would be for a theater room and the front sound stage is off an Emotiva XPA-3 v2.

The Silver 8 I listened to yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. I had no thoughts of doing the Silver line but after giving them a demo I was shocked. The dealer told me if you like the Silver you will LOVE the Gold.

Okay then...time to hunt down a shop that has the Gold in stock. Today I went and checked out the Gold 300. I don't know if it was the room but I was not "wow-ed" like I was when I listened to the Silver 8. Maybe I was expecting more from what I've read using Google on the reviews for them.
I like the Gold's much better, but I'm buying them purely for music, not movies. I think for most movies and rock music, the Silver's will be a great choice. As I get older, I crave a sweet midrange and punchy bass (probably because I can't hear anything over 17 khz), and the Golds are incredibly smooth. But speakers are like women, my cup of tea may not be yours. It could be the room was an issue where you heard the Gold's, or you just like the Silver's better.

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If I went Silver it would be the Silver 10 (not the 8) because of the theater application. My concerns with the Silver are three fold:

1.) I heard the 8 not the 10
2.) The matching center is a 2.5 way driver not a 3 way
3.) Silver are 4 ohm Gold are 8 ohm. Emotiva seems to support the 4 ohm setup but would be 330 watts/channel. Too much power for them?
4.) Would I have buyer's remorse wondering what I'm missing since I didn't go for the Gold?
1.) The 10's go deeper, but I would recommend the 8's, especially if you may think your subs are up to the task. The reason is the Silver Center (which I'm assuming you will be buying as well) has 6" mid-bass drivers, the same as the 8's. The 10's go to 8" mid-bass drivers, and you may pick up on that difference when an object (car) drives across the screen. I just prefer my L/R speakers matching my center exactly.

2) 2.5 way or 3 way won't matter. Drive size will be.

3) Never such a thing as too much power. Under sized amps that clip are what kill speakers, not oversized amps that send clean signal to them.

4) Maybe. I'd say if you listen to more than 25% music you will miss the Golds. You won't miss them at all watching a movie.

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At the end of the day with the speakers I've found and the selling price of my Aperion's I'm looking at roughly a $2,700 difference between a Silver 10 package and a Gold 300 package (both with Bronze FX Surrounds...I'm not too worried about having high end surrounds).
I would still recommend timbre matching. I think the Bronze FX surrounds would play nicely with the Silvers, but I don't think so with the Golds, which may make your choice even easier.

Why is there NO perfect equipment, only compromises?
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1.) The 10's go deeper, but I would recommend the 8's, especially if you may think your subs are up to the task. The reason is the Silver Center (which I'm assuming you will be buying as well) has 6" mid-bass drivers, the same as the 8's. The 10's go to 8" mid-bass drivers, and you may pick up on that difference when an object (car) drives across the screen.
Unless you are not using bass management and have abjured using roomEQ, the difference in the size of the woofers (not mid-bass drivers) in the L/R speakers compared with the center is not going to be audible given the influence of the different configuration and placement among the three speakers across the front.

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The only way to do this is to get three identical speakers for L/C/R and avoid dedicated center designs entirely.

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looks like I'm going to be the new owner of used pair of Gold GX200 and the matching C350 centre. what can I expect to lose/gain from these? current setup that I have and will be selling are paradigm studio 100v3's and studio cc690v5. I will be powering with statement A5 and Marantz 7702. any input would be greatly appreciated
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