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Interference or Cancellation is caused in this case by 2 drivers reproducing the same frequency at different locations. If the 2 drivers are closer than 1/4 wavelength than the frequency in question then they will (in general) couple as 1 driver. If more than 1/4 wavelength apart then you will get different amounts of cancellation depending on Frequency. A lower frequency has a larger wavelength so the 2 displaced drivers can be farther apart before there is a problem. Also note that in the case of my RS Silver LCR's the driver on the Left (if I remember right) doesn't go as high in frequency as the one as the right one. This will reduce the possible interference. It has a quasi 3 way alignment. Standing a speaker up or laying it down won't chance these interference issues. The interference is a function of distance the drivers are apart and the frequency the drivers are reproducing in question. Of course there is the "Room" and possibly a stand the speaker is on to give reflections as well but that is the case regardless of speaker type / alignment.

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Thanks for the detailed response!

But the Silver center was better in vertical position @ Thomas J.Norton review.

As with all other two-way, woofer-tweeter-woofer, horizontally configured center speakers, the Silver Centre was compromised for off-axis listening. When I measured it in the customary horizontal configuration, there was a dip of approximately 7 dB at just over 2 kHz—the woofers-to-tweeter crossover region—as I moved from the center to roughly 20 degrees to the side. It was also clearly audible. The solution: I turned the Silver Centre so it sat vertically on my center stand. This required that I raise my projection screen by about a foot (higher than I like) but produced a much more uniform sonic balance across the front from left to right. Another option I tried briefly was using one of the two-way Silver 2s, positioned upright, as a center. This worked better than the horizontal Silver Centre but not quite as well as the latter turned vertical. In either arrangement, I reduced the Integra’s center-channel bass control by a few steps; my low stand often results in slightly bloated male dialogue on many center speakers, including but not limited to the Silver.

With the vertical Silver Centre and the larger Hsu subwoofer, the Silver system came alive on movies.


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I've still to demo both but i'm pretty sure i'll be going with the smaller C150, it's probably a better match for both the Gold 50's and my small room, in which the C350 would be overkill. Interesting you've had both, what did you think of the two centres? Was the C350 noticeably superior? Don't change my mind again lol
Yeah, I've gone through multiple phases of setups. In the family room, I've had the GX50s, and had bought the C150 to go with them, but the speaker was just too deep to fit on my mantle. There was no way to properly set it up, so for the last year, I have been using the GX50s as a phantom center channel. Currently in the process of selling the GX50 and C150 and switching my family room setup to Martin Logan 35XTs and a Motion 8 center since this will work with my fireplace setup.

Since I'm still in love with the Gold series though, I decided to start to convert my basement setup to the Gold series with towers and the bigger center. The C350 is the only piece I have so far. I have the Energy Veritas 6.3 full setup in my basement, and have compared all the center channels. The C150 was great and blends it greatly with the G50s. I hooked up the C350, and it actually dominated the Energy full range towers. Granted, I didn't calibrate it, but it was clearly flexing over the rest of my setup and yes, it sounded awesome. It is such a massive speakers though. I imagine it would have the same dominance when paired with the G50s.
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The new silvers look pretty good to me with a couple exceptions...I hate the teardrop around the mid/tweeter assembly and the tweeter grill looks messy and unfinished. Don't know if they were trying to copy paradigm's prestige look but it's a fail. Still think my RX8s look better than the last two series, but they're not bad overall, still wanna hear them. Really nice they finally added a 3 way center too.


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The new silvers look pretty good to me with a couple exceptions...I hate the teardrop around the mid/tweeter assembly and the tweeter grill looks messy and unfinished. Don't know if they were trying to copy paradigm's prestige look but it's a fail. Still think my RX8s look better than the last two series, but they're not bad overall, still wanna hear them. Really nice they finally added a 3 way center too.
They all look the same with the grilles on, in the dark... I want to hear them, not see them.
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I hope I am right. If so, that makes the new Silver G6 line pricing pretty reasonable, IMHO.
Looks like you were right about those prices from the Australian article being Australian prices. Nice to see they haven't raised their prices.

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http://soundstageglobal.com/index.ph...-monitor-audio Monitor kept identical price points for the replacement Silver-series products, while also adding a Satin White finish to the option sheet. This numbers seven SKUs, including the: Silver 50 bookshelf ($875/pr.), Silver 100 bookshelf ($1150/pr.), Silver 200 floorstander ($1500/pr.), Silver 300 floorstander ($2000/pr.), and Silver 500 floorstander ($2500/pr.). There are also two center channels -- the two-and-a-half-way C150 ($725), and three-way C350 ($999), as well as the FX surround speaker ($875/pr.) and W-12 subwoofer ($1649). All models will be shipping in July.
I've had my gen2 MAs(Silver s10 and Silver LCR) since 2005 and back then the S10 was about $2000 a pair and top of the silver line. MA has kept the top of the silver line at about $2500 for a long time so I'm happy to see the silver 500 at that price.

I see a pair of silver 500 and an C350 in my future. Besides it's been 12 years since my last MAs and it's time to upgrade.

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The new silvers look pretty good to me with a couple exceptions...I hate the teardrop around the mid/tweeter assembly and the tweeter grill looks messy and unfinished. Don't know if they were trying to copy paradigm's prestige look but it's a fail. Still think my RX8s look better than the last two series, but they're not bad overall, still wanna hear them. Really nice they finally added a 3 way center too.


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I'm considering going for a deal with a ~25% discount on the existing Silver 6, or optionally wait for the new Silver 200.

So I'm wondering, historically has the audio quality of the Monitor Audio Silver line improved much with each new generation? E.g. going from RS6->RX6->Silver 6. Or is it mostly "fine tuning"?
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I'm considering going for a deal with a ~25% discount on the existing Silver 6, or optionally wait for the new Silver 200.

So I'm wondering, historically has the audio quality of the Monitor Audio Silver line improved much with each new generation? E.g. going from RS6->RX6->Silver 6. Or is it mostly "fine tuning"?
I am in the same boat, although I have yet to find anyone discounting the current Silver series at that level. Since I can't accommodate the size of the C350, my real interest is in the performance difference between the current Silver Centre and the new C150 center.

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I'm surprised that the Apex line has yet to see any updates for what must be close to 10 years.

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I'm considering going for a deal with a ~25% discount on the existing Silver 6, or optionally wait for the new Silver 200.

So I'm wondering, historically has the audio quality of the Monitor Audio Silver line improved much with each new generation? E.g. going from RS6->RX6->Silver 6. Or is it mostly "fine tuning"?
I would say they have evolved tonally over the generations. The RS were 'brighter' followed by a leaning more to neutral RX, then the silvers which are the most neutral with smoother treble and bass.(With the silver 10s at least).
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I'm considering going for a deal with a ~25% discount on the existing Silver 6, or optionally wait for the new Silver 200.

So I'm wondering, historically has the audio quality of the Monitor Audio Silver line improved much with each new generation? E.g. going from RS6->RX6->Silver 6. Or is it mostly "fine tuning"?
I have pretty much read the same thing as Shadowed posted above but for me the Silver 6 is more than good enough and I prefer the front porting on the Silver 6. The discount will only make the deal sweeter and probably sound better too!
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OK, I had an opportunity to listen to the Monitor Audio Silver 10s at my local dealer today and I really liked their sound. I see that these new models are coming out soon, so I would expect that Monitor Audio will provide a discount to blow out the old models, so hopefully I will be able to get a good deal if I go with the Silvers.

The one thing I noticed with the new models are the three way Center that I would prefer over the two way C25 in the current Silver line.

Does anyone know whether the new models will timbre match to the previous models? One of the key bullets on the 6th Generation Model page notes "Featuring a completely redesigned 25 mm Gold Dome tweeter for precise treble" which has me wondering whether the tweeters would match the previous models which describe their tweeters as "1 x 1" (25mm) C-CAM® gold dome tweeter" in the specs and "Improved C-CAM® (Ceramic-Coated Aluminium/Magnesium) gold dome tweeter design with damped rear chamber and innovative dome venting technique for improved clarity and wider operating bandwidth" in the description.

They are both 25mm gold dome tweeters, but what is the completely redesigned aspect?
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Hello folks. I currently have Gold GX100s for mains, and an Aerial CC3 center. The center is really good, but I'm thinking it's time to upgrade to an MA center. I have the space for either a gold 150 or gold 350. My room is borderline large (15*25, TV on the small wall), but it's just my wife and I that watch, and we have HT seats about 12 feet from the TV. Everything is driven by a Yamaha RX-A2050. We don't listen that loud, even for movies.

Given this set up, will the gold 350 really add value over the Gold 150? Also, I can get a PLC150 for under $1700. How would that fare vs. the golds?

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OK, I had an opportunity to listen to the Monitor Audio Silver 10s at my local dealer today and I really liked their sound. I see that these new models are coming out soon, so I would expect that Monitor Audio will provide a discount to blow out the old models, so hopefully I will be able to get a good deal if I go with the Silvers.

The one thing I noticed with the new models are the three way Center that I would prefer over the two way C25 in the current Silver line.

Does anyone know whether the new models will timbre match to the previous models? One of the key bullets on the 6th Generation Model page notes "Featuring a completely redesigned 25 mm Gold Dome tweeter for precise treble" which has me wondering whether the tweeters would match the previous models which describe their tweeters as "1 x 1" (25mm) C-CAM® gold dome tweeter" in the specs and "Improved C-CAM® (Ceramic-Coated Aluminium/Magnesium) gold dome tweeter design with damped rear chamber and innovative dome venting technique for improved clarity and wider operating bandwidth" in the description.

They are both 25mm gold dome tweeters, but what is the completely redesigned aspect?
I don't think anyone has heard them yet...
You could ask M.A. your question here,
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I don't think anyone has heard them yet...
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Anyone heard an update on when the Silver 6G line will be available to order and deliver in the US? I noticed they are available to order in Europe, but the site did not mention delivery date. Looking at authorized Internet retailer sites here, it looks as though inventory of the current Silver line may be spotty, especially in some of the wood finishes.

Monitor Audio NA finally posted a mention of the new line the other day on their home page, but not much else. I guess intro here is a month or two behind other markets. I am still on the fence on the new vs current Silvers. Waiting to see if there are any decent Closeout deals available. There have been fairly attractive deals advertised in the UK. Maybe MA is liquidating their stock there and will not need to in the US?

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