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post #3001 of 44485 Old 05-16-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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Unfortunately for me, I lack flexibility in placement. I can't even pull my front speakers as far from the wall as I would like.

I am not as happy as I first was with the RC-52, it is good for my needs and budget, but not great. I watched The Incredibles and A Bug's Life with my daughter over the past two days, and it performed quite well with the myriad of voices and was great with effects. However, when I watched Hot Fuzz last night some of the dialog was a but muted and muffled, namely the quieter dialog. Again effects were good - crisp and sharp without being overbearing.

I could go back to the Synergy C-2, which was better with dialog but not as good at other sounds, or I could increase my budget and look for something else. The RC-62 might work, but I would have to rebuild my TV stand which is just something I am not in the mood for right now. Still, to get 6 1/2 drivers I don't think I have a choice.

I have not given up on this center yet, but I am keeping my options open.

Do you have it wired out of phase?
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No, it is wired correctly. I guess I am just very demanding of my center channels. I watch movies at a low volume so I really need a center where even low voices come through cleanly and clearly. The RC-52 is ok with that, but the Synergy C-2 was better.

Don't get me wrong, I like the speaker - It looks great, the tilt screw is convenient, the sound field is large, and it the build quality seems very good. It is just not clear enough for me at lower volumes. But I will give it a couple of weeks before making my final decision. If it grows on me, then great! My speaker search is over. If it is very close then perhaps I will rebuild my TV stand and try a RC-62. If it is not for me then it is back to the drawing board, and I don't want to go there.
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Hey guys, here is what's new with Klipsch.

The RVX-42 and RVX-54 are departing the product line. The new Icon XF-48 and XL-23 are the "replacements."

The Icon line is getting expanded to include what has been dubbed "Icon Wood." This line will include the WB-14 bookshelf ($599/pr), WF-34 and WF-35 towers ($1199 and $1499/pr), WC-24 center ($499/ea), and WS-24 surrounds ($499/pr). All prices MSRP.

The existing Icon subwoofers (XW-300 and XW-500) will be the mating subs for Icon Wood systems. The Icon Wood series will be offered only in cabernet and espresso wood finishes. Further, this line will be represented at MHT stores as Reference IV product is said to be exiting these locations. Should start seeing this line next month.

Reference LCR in-wall models are also coming late May/early June. These will include an R-2502-W ($299/ea), R-5502-W ($399/ea), and the THX Select 2 certified KL-6502-THX ($499/ea) and larger KL-6504-THX ($750/ea). Again, all prices MSRP.

Reference THX Ultra 2 in-ceiling products are also coming. The LCR is the KL-7502-THX and KS-7502-THX (both models are $1000/ea MSRP).

Reference in-ceiling passive subwoofer with a 10" woofer and acoustic enclosure is also being released in this new mix of products.

Finally, the AW650 and AW525 outdoor speakers are now available in black.

That's about it for now. Happy listening everyone!

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I am somewhat of a speaker newbie, and I was wondering what you guys think of the B-2 / B-3 Klipsch bookshelf speakers?

My dad is thinking about getting his first sound system for a home theater and is going to start out with either stereo sound or 2.1. He is looking for good sound, but nothing super high end and I thought these speakers would fit the bill. He will most likely be using an Onkyo SR605 receiver.

Thanks in advance!
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Just a heads-up for those of you who are reading this thread because you hope to become a Klipsch owner--right now you can grab a pair of RF-35s for a song at woot. They have the RC-35 available at their other site, there's a link to it in the product description for the RF-35s. Looks like a darn nice price if someone was looking to grab these--but remember they only sell them for 24 hours or until they sell out, whichever comes first, so these will be gone by midnight tomorrow! I've made several purchases from woot in the past and have had no complaints. Hopefully this helps someone out!
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So tempted by those, but I don't have any room (not to mention cash) for them. I hate to see a good deal like that go by.
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Woot.com has rf-35s for $500 for the pair today.
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I have 10.5's for my mains and a C5 for my center. I am building a HT and was wondering if I should replace my C5 with another 10.5 to be evenly matched across the front of my theatre. I am using an AT screen with the speakers behind it.
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In case anyone cares.........

Woot.com has a pair of rf-35 for $500 with $5 shipping for today only.

I have ordered quite a few things from woot and never had a problem.


My subs play all the way down to 0 Hz!!! It's so low you can't hear or feel anything.

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Woot.com has rf-35s for $500 for the pair today.

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...They have the RC-35 available at their other site...

I find this so intriguing....How does a speaker that has been discontinued for 2 years, all of a sudden come up being sold as NIB in such numbers when they weren't available before?
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Thinking about a 7.1 Klipsch setup. I would value some input on what I am about to purchase before I buy it. I have a Pioneer 92THX receiver.

Here is what I am looking to buy; do you think these are the right choice?

Pair of RF82BLA floors
One RC52BLA center
Pair of RS42BLA bipolars
Pair of RB51BLA bookshelves
RW10DBLA subwoofer

Any recommendations to change or tweak this list?

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Hey Dr.Billy,

From what others have been reporting on this thread you may be happier upgrading the Center Channel to the RC-62 (which is the one voice matched to the RF-82) and find a better deal in a Subwoofer than a Klipsch model.

Insofar as surrounds go, those would work, but think about possibly using the RB-61s in the rear instead of the RB-51s. The system you posted should sound quite nice and I put in descending order where you may wish to consider an upgrade. Good Luck.
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Hey, ZT . . . thanks for the response!

Here is what I am changing too . . . the sub I can get for less than $600 with a scratch on it.

What do you think of this set up with my Pioneer 92THX?

Pair of RF82BLA floors
One RC62BLA center
Pair of RS52BLA bipolars
Pair of RB61BLA bookshelves
Polk PSW1000 subwoofer

Everybody's opinion welcomed!

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I am in the process of changing my center channel out so that all 3 of my fronts are the same. That will give me more even imaging across the front.
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I am somewhat of a speaker newbie, and I was wondering what you guys think of the B-2 / B-3 Klipsch bookshelf speakers?

My dad is thinking about getting his first sound system for a home theater and is going to start out with either stereo sound or 2.1. He is looking for good sound, but nothing super high end and I thought these speakers would fit the bill. He will most likely be using an Onkyo SR605 receiver.

Thanks in advance!


The wife and I love our B-2s. For our set-up we went with the B-2s for the fronts, C-1 for the center and the S-2 for the sides. They sound greatfor music as well as movies. I would've loved to went with the B-3s but don't regret getting the B-2s.
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Complex Pants,
They aren't bad for a first system. Definately get a good sub and he'll love the setup.
If you can find them in your area, you may want to give a listen to some RB-61s they are a bit more expensive but they are also good bookshelves. Either way he'll be happy with the setup.
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I have been looking for RF-35s, and then I miss the woot.com sale. wtf
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Complex Pants,
They aren't bad for a first system. Definately get a good sub and he'll love the setup.
If you can find them in your area, you may want to give a listen to some RB-61s they are a bit more expensive but they are also good bookshelves. Either way he'll be happy with the setup.

Thanks for the reply. I managed to go out to best buy and give them a listen (I had to fix the listening station lol) and I quite liked the B-3. They were pretty good without a sub, but a nice rumble really helps them out. I also saw the RB-51's or RF-61's not sure, which and I thought they were a little more under-whelming, but that may have been the room and the fact that I was comparing them to the RF-82's. I was totally blown away by the RF-82. Those were so sweet.

Btw, what exactly does "reference" mean in terms of speakers? I see that term thrown around a lot. Thanks!
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Hey Guys, I can understand getting what is new in the stores, as that is all one can hear. It might also be worth investigating the great speakers from Klipsch that are no longer made, and may very well outperform the newer models. Such as the Fortes, Cornwalls and Chorus, the KLF series. If you got the room and an understanding partner, the Klipschhorn and Lascalas.
I have the Klipsch Epic CF3's. These were only made bewtween 1994 & 1996. They are 100dB efficient, have a big 9"x13" horn in between two 10" pro drivers, bass way down into the mid 20hz range, and can slam you like a concert monitor when cranked. They have a beautiful unrestrained sound at any volume you care to listen to them. They were $2000 when new and can be had for about $600 now, and you can resell them for the same money when and if you want to move on. Most of the older Klipsch hold their value quite well. My Klipsch C-7 center channel is one of the best centers I have ever heard. It uses 2 8" drivers with a fairly big horn as well, it is 99dB efficient and plays with great clarity and power. I payed $275 for it about 4 years ago on Ebay, and is worth more now. It is a nice plus to buy something that actually appreciates in value. All of this is of course, imho.
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I have had difficulty trying to demo these two options side by side and I thought someone that frequents this thread would have a clear answer.

I am building a casual HT setup and I have it boiled down to two options. I already have am RC52 which is nestled under the TV. What remains is updating the other speakers. The wife will not allow anything large so it is either RB61s or the inwall R-5650-Ws. I understand that the RFs are more efficient, which I like, and will also sit nicely on the existing shelves and will not require cutting holes in the wall, which I also like. But if the inwall solution sounds as good as or superior I would consider making a lasting improvement to the room. I welcome any thoughts or suggestions.

I am also currently torn between upgrading my KSW12 sub to either the RW12d or the AV123a monster sub. but that can wait until later since my old sub still works fine. I just wanted to mention the sub so that you would know that I had the lower frequencies covered. Thanks
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Hey, ZT . . . thanks for the response!

Here is what I am changing too . . . the sub I can get for less than $600 with a scratch on it.

What do you think of this set up with my Pioneer 92THX?

Pair of RF82BLA floors
One RC62BLA center
Pair of RS52BLA bipolars
Pair of RB61BLA bookshelves
Polk PSW1000 subwoofer

Everybody's opinion welcomed!

thats what I currently have; RF82, RC62, and RS52 (no sub )with an Onkyo 905 and I couldn't be any more happier. Love the sound, and the price

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thats what I currently have; RF82, RC62, and RS52 (no sub )with an Onkyo 905 and I couldn't be any more happier. Love the sound, and the price

Great to hear the setup is good, Latin-Man! I went ahed and ordered.

I am definite on everything except the Polk sub. It seems the best price for a dual cone I can find.

That I expect to buy, because I can not find a dual cone at the same price.

What sub are you looking at?

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I have the older Synergy series from 2002
SF2/SC2/SSC1/KSW12

I have played with the settings on my denon 2802 but the center just doesnt cut it in low volume type movies..

Its muddled and cloudy no matter what I do to the settings.

I like the SF2's for my L/R and I like the SS1's for my rears..
The KSW12 is fair and I wish I knew more when I bought it and might wanna change it out.

What Klipsch center could I add to the SF2's to help aid in better voice clarity
I really dont wanna spend $$$ on a whole setup again but I would add a center and or sub..

Any help?
I would wanna stick with a Kipsch center but am open to a different sub...
Budget would be 500 to 1000 for the new center and new sub...

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I had the Synergy C-2 and tried the RC-52 and overall I liked the C-2 better. I am surprised you found is muddy and cloudy, I thought it was pretty good, other than the vertical sound stage. The RC-52 plays lower, much lower, and the overall sound field is great. But for dialog, especially the low dialog you mentioned, it just didn't do it for me. So if you don't like the C-2 then I think you should avoid the RC-52 but maybe try the RC-62.
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I dont have the C2 I have the older 2002 version of it which is called the SC2
The C I believe is the Synergy III versions,I have the Synergy I versions...

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Great to hear the setup is good, Latin-Man! I went ahed and ordered.

I am definite on everything except the Polk sub. It seems the best price for a dual cone I can find.

That I expect to buy, because I can not find a dual cone at the same price.

What sub are you looking at?

Your gonna laugh after I tell you this....

I bought an old Sony 12'' Sub at Sears back in my days during college (still brand new, used it a few times and put in storage, got me in trouble with the apt neighbors) that I plan on picking up next time I visit my family.

If I dont like the way my old sub sounds like, now that I have better trained ears....I may end up buying an HSU Sub (single woofer). I really cant afford to spend any money (gas prices, etc....), and the wife has me on money-lockdown

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Hi,
I am new to the world of these forums. So forgive me if this question is repeated somewhere. I did try searching. Like many others in this forum, I am thinking of buying RF82, RC62 and matching surrounds. I did not get to audition them as yet.
Has anyone compared Rf82 to JBL L890? I am more inclined towards RF82 somehow - efficiency, reviews, looks.

A booklet I found at Onkyo store got me interested. I can not afford RF83 - $3600 a pair list price. Even RF82 based system is too expensive, and I would like to build one by one. Since amps/ avrs too are damn expensive here - and the latest hdmi repeater ones are either not available or cost 4 time what they cost in the US, and given the very high efficiency of klipsch, can I use an outdated onkyo HT-R340 to drive these speakers? This one drives a passive subwoofer.

Here is the spec I am copying for your quick reference.

North American (FTC):
(FL, FR, C, SL, SR)100 watts minimum continuous power
per channel, 8 ohm loads, at 1 kHz, with
a maximum total harmonic distortion
of 1%
(Subwoofer) 105 watts minimum continuous power
per channel, 8 ohm loads, at 80 Hz, with
a maximum total harmonic distortion
of 1%
(FL, FR, C, SL, SR)115 watts minimum continuous power
per channel, 6 ohm loads, at 1 kHz, with
a maximum total harmonic distortion
of 1%
(Subwoofer) 125 watts minimum continuous power
per channel, 6 ohm loads, 1 channel
driven at 80 Hz, with a maximum total
harmonic distortion of 1%
European (IEC): 6 ch × 110 W at 6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1ch driven
Maximum Output Power
Asian (JEITA): 6 ch × 120 W at 6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1ch driven
Dynamic Power 180 W + 180 W (3Ω, Front)
140 W + 140 W (4Ω, Front)
95 W + 95 W (8Ω, Front)
THD (Total Harmonic
Distortion) 0.9% (Power Rated)
Damping Factor 60 (Front, 1kHz, 8Ω)
Input Sensitivity and
Impedance 200 mV/ 47 kΩ (LINE)
Output Level and
Impedance 200 mV/ 470 Ω (REC OUT)
Frequency Response 10 Hz–50 kHz/ +1 dB-3 dB (Direct mode)
Tone Control ±10 dB, 80 Hz (BASS)
±10 dB, 20 kHz (TREBLE)
Signal to Noise Ratio 100 dB (LINE, IHF-A)
Speaker Impedance 6Ω– 16Ω
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Your gonna laugh after I tell you this....

I bought an old Sony 12'' Sub at Sears back in my days during college (still brand new, used it a few times and put in storage, got me in trouble with the apt neighbors) that I plan on picking up next time I visit my family.

If I dont like the way my old sub sounds like, now that I have better trained ears....I may end up buying an HSU Sub (single woofer). I really cant afford to spend any money (gas prices, etc....), and the wife has me on money-lockdown

When you are on lockdown, any sub is a great sub!

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HI guys, I just redid my home theater room in which I had a 6.1 ONKYO htib setup that I was happy with. I wanted a cleaner look so I put in a 7.1 Speakercraft AIM series in-ceiling speakers.....the result well, to put it bluntly sucks donkey dong! I have no separation/imaging at all, especially for the fronts. I'm not happy at all, especially about needing to fix the drywall now not to mention my wife is none the too happy after all the work we did to put them in. I'm looking hard at going to a Klipsch 7.1 set up and wanted to see if these choices sound like good compliments to one another:

XF-48 for left and right fronts
XL-23 for Center channel
Not sure the model number, it was one of the dipole surrounds that guy said was $250 pair. Use them for 4 surrounds.

Also, I'm using an ONKYO 805 receiver. I noticed the XF-48's have built in amp, how would this work? My room is 14 ft long by 12 ft wide. Would this system be overkill?

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What is the usual, if any, break in period for Klipsch speakers?
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