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post #34021 of 37303 Old 03-18-2014, 12:45 PM
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Nice start man! Welcome to the never ending board game "I must have it...." biggrin.gif I like your plan for SVS subs. Once you get configured, post pictures for us to see your new setup.


 Hi PWH1 (and malmstump and Tasdom) - Sorry it's been about 3 weeks since your kind response! I've been busy trying to get everything squared-away, including choosing and setting up the new SVS PB2000s... I spoke with SVS about which sub(s) to get, and wouldn't you know it, they recommended the dual PB2000s over one PB ultra or SB Ultra.  I also noticed the PB2000 was in your line-up (btw, Semper Fi, Devil Dog), and I went with them.  Damn, they are off-the-chart incredible with the new Reference speakers!  I attached a pic as requested... please disregard the mess, I've got a ton of work left to do including room treatments (you can spot the box of ATS Acoustics material in the corner that I'm using to build my bass traps and acoustic panels), cable management and recalibration, just to name a few of the to-do items.  I'll post more as I make progress.  Cheers, and thanks again!

 

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brent, that looks very nice!!!
I am half tempted to swap to two matching box subs like that next year. The looks of flanking subs looks soooo sweet. I cant spend anymore soon though. Ive spent too much in the last 6 months already.
Its never ending

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 Hi PWH1 (and malmstump and Tasdom) - Sorry it's been about 3 weeks since your kind response! I've been busy trying to get everything squared-away, including choosing and setting up the new SVS PB2000s... I spoke with SVS about which sub(s) to get, and wouldn't you know it, they recommended the dual PB2000s over one PB ultra or SB Ultra.  I also noticed the PB2000 was in your line-up (btw, Semper Fi, Devil Dog), and I went with them.  Damn, they are off-the-chart incredible with the new Reference speakers!  I attached a pic as requested... please disregard the mess, I've got a ton of work left to do including room treatments (you can spot the box of ATS Acoustics material in the corner that I'm using to build my bass traps and acoustic panels), cable management and recalibration, just to name a few of the to-do items.  I'll post more as I make progress.  Cheers, and thanks again!

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2 RF-82IIs, RC-62s, 2 RS-52IIs
2 SVS PB2000s
Samsung UN65EH6000


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Nice ! ya know you don't have to toe in the subs wink.gif

Yeah it's actually best to have 2 subs than one huge one
2 subs smooth out the room nulls & ease cancellations
I currently have 2 of the PC12-NSD's & SVS said that they'd work better than the single large cylinders
they were right ,I've popped sheet rock nails & cracked wallboard with my dual cylinders
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brent, that looks very nice!!!
I am half tempted to swap to two matching box subs like that next year. The looks of flanking subs looks soooo sweet. I cant spend anymore soon though. Ive spent too much in the last 6 months already.
Its never ending


Thanks!  I feel ya... my wife hasn't stopped rolling her eyes in over a month!  :)  I was concerned at first about the flanking sub position, but it's turned out to work very well in this room (20x13, mostly open on one side).  Just need to get some bass traps to keep the build-up of low frequency standing-waves from smushing my head during some movie scenes!

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Nice ! ya know you don't have to toe in the subs wink.gif

Yeah it's actually best to have 2 subs than one huge one
2 subs smooth out the room nulls & ease cancellations
I currently have 2 of the PC12-NSD's & SVS said that they'd work better than the single large cylinders
they were right ,I've popped sheet rock nails & cracked wallboard with my dual cylinders


Ha!  Yeah, I tumbled down a rabbit hole when I looked on various forums on whether or not to toe them in... I can't tell a difference acoustically, but aesthetically, it has a "technicool" look... ;)

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Thanks!  I feel ya... my wife hasn't stopped rolling her eyes in over a month!  smile.gif  I was concerned at first about the flanking sub position, but it's turned out to work very well in this room (20x13, mostly open on one side).  Just need to get some bass traps to keep the build-up of low frequency standing-waves from smushing my head during some movie scenes!

Yea mine seemed to even out alot when I added my Klipsch sub back into the mix with my SVS. Since I moved into the basement I keep the SVS tube nearfield and let it resonate under the steps. The Klipsch is between the right tower and ent center.
It works very well now, but standing lfe notes get to be a little much at times. I turned the gains down a bit and now trying to get used to lower response.
Still trying to find that sweet spot, but my room really sucks. The prior owners did not drywall and I have this panelling type board up which reflects like crazy. I am gonna try some absorption treatments next and see how it does.

I dont want to go too far though as we are planning to move in a year or two
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Yea mine seemed to even out alot when I added my Klipsch sub back into the mix with my SVS. Since I moved into the basement I keep the SVS tube nearfield and let it resonate under the steps. The Klipsch is between the right tower and ent center.
It works very well now, but standing lfe notes get to be a little much at times. I turned the gains down a bit and now trying to get used to lower response.
Still trying to find that sweet spot, but my room really sucks. The prior owners did not drywall and I have this panelling type board up which reflects like crazy. I am gonna try some absorption treatments next and see how it does.

I dont want to go too far though as we are planning to move in a year or two


I turned mine down a little as well for the same reason, but I miss the waves that we used to be able to feel in some parts of music and movies.  The info I've dug up so far indicates the bass traps will help with the standing waves so we can turn the gain back up to where it was and win-win.  I may be able to get mine done this week and will post some results in case it helps you.  We have the same situation with moving in a year or two, so I'm building mine to be easily removeable/transportable.  If I don't screw it up, maybe it'll work... heh. 

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I turned mine down a little as well for the same reason, but I miss the waves that we used to be able to feel in some parts of music and movies.  The info I've dug up so far indicates the bass traps will help with the standing waves so we can turn the gain back up to where it was and win-win.  I may be able to get mine done this week and will post some results in case it helps you.  We have the same situation with moving in a year or two, so I'm building mine to be easily removeable/transportable.  If I don't screw it up, maybe it'll work... heh. 
try this push those subs back against the wall , some guys even face the subs toward the side walls in a opposing attitude
In others experiment with placement usually what looks good is Not the optimal spot for the subs
you'll get over the 'But they look cool there ' thingy , once you find the rooms sweet spot for the subs because then the response is so good you start caring less on how they look cool.gif

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 Hi PWH1 (and malmstump and Tasdom) - Sorry it's been about 3 weeks since your kind response! I've been busy trying to get everything squared-away, including choosing and setting up the new SVS PB2000s... I spoke with SVS about which sub(s) to get, and wouldn't you know it, they recommended the dual PB2000s over one PB ultra or SB Ultra.  I also noticed the PB2000 was in your line-up (btw, Semper Fi, Devil Dog), and I went with them.  Damn, they are off-the-chart incredible with the new Reference speakers!  I attached a pic as requested... please disregard the mess, I've got a ton of work left to do including room treatments (you can spot the box of ATS Acoustics material in the corner that I'm using to build my bass traps and acoustic panels), cable management and recalibration, just to name a few of the to-do items.  I'll post more as I make progress.  Cheers, and thanks again!

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2 RF-82IIs, RC-62s, 2 RS-52IIs
2 SVS PB2000s
Samsung UN65EH6000


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Brent -

Looks awesome - love the setup. There's something about wife's and stereo equipment that just don't seem to align. Mine has been great but the size of the PB 2000 had her face twitching - lol. Sounds like you have had a chance to stretch the legs on the system and got to feel the power the combination can produce. Movies are insane and I love the SVS ported subs with music as well. Enjoy your setup and the fun of tweaking and pondering the "next" move.

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BTW - with use of the term "squared away" I have to assume you are a brother?

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Now that I look at those subs again, I realize how huge they are if they sit that high to an RF-82. I need me some now!

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You better lock it up Sancho! LOL.... Well, this ole jar head wouldn't know that cause I served only in the Corps. I am sure a lot of the terms that are military specific span all the branches.

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You better lock it up Sancho! LOL.... Well, this ole jar head wouldn't know that cause I served only in the Corps. I am sure a lot of the terms that are military specific span all the branches.

I can argue that squared away is a Navy saying.

Now, make sure your speakers are squared away on the gig line.

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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 Hi PWH1 (and malmstump and Tasdom) - Sorry it's been about 3 weeks since your kind response! I've been busy trying to get everything squared-away, including choosing and setting up the new SVS PB2000s... I spoke with SVS about which sub(s) to get, and wouldn't you know it, they recommended the dual PB2000s over one PB ultra or SB Ultra.  I also noticed the PB2000 was in your line-up (btw, Semper Fi, Devil Dog), and I went with them.  Damn, they are off-the-chart incredible with the new Reference speakers!  I attached a pic as requested... please disregard the mess, I've got a ton of work left to do including room treatments (you can spot the box of ATS Acoustics material in the corner that I'm using to build my bass traps and acoustic panels), cable management and recalibration, just to name a few of the to-do items.  I'll post more as I make progress.  Cheers, and thanks again!

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2 RF-82IIs, RC-62s, 2 RS-52IIs
2 SVS PB2000s
Samsung UN65EH6000


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congrats on a great room

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Now, make sure your speakers are squared away on the gig line.

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Dean from Aletheia Audio is the person who did all the leg work/research on this mod & he'd be the one to contact
IIRC it was Dean's work that prompted Klipsch to re-work the 7's into the 7II's

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 Hi PWH1 (and malmstump and Tasdom) - Sorry it's been about 3 weeks since your kind response! I've been busy trying to get everything squared-away, including choosing and setting up the new SVS PB2000s... I spoke with SVS about which sub(s) to get, and wouldn't you know it, they recommended the dual PB2000s over one PB ultra or SB Ultra.  I also noticed the PB2000 was in your line-up (btw, Semper Fi, Devil Dog), and I went with them.  Damn, they are off-the-chart incredible with the new Reference speakers!  I attached a pic as requested... please disregard the mess, I've got a ton of work left to do including room treatments (you can spot the box of ATS Acoustics material in the corner that I'm using to build my bass traps and acoustic panels), cable management and recalibration, just to name a few of the to-do items.  I'll post more as I make progress.  Cheers, and thanks again!

Brent

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2 RF-82IIs, RC-62s, 2 RS-52IIs
2 SVS PB2000s
Samsung UN65EH6000


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Looks good man….congrats!

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Can anyone comment on if $500 for a used XPA-5 first generation is a good deal. They said all five channels work and no scratches. Thank you
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Can anyone comment on if $500 for a used XPA-5 first generation is a good deal. They said all five channels work and no scratches. Thank you
yes awsome deal ,get it before it dissapears
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.50 cents a watt is a very good deal!! eek.gif

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RC-64II if you have a reference line setup,  KL650THX if you have a THX setup
RF7ii+RC64ii vs KL650THX as LCR....which is better for movies?
I've read that KL650THX sounds bigger and better than RF83 for movies.
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RF7ii+RC64ii vs KL650THX as LCR....which is better for movies?
I've read that KL650THX sounds bigger and better than RF83 for movies.
the THX line is another whole beast & sadly it don't mix &/or play well with other Kilpsch speakers .
the reason is it designed as a complete system , the speakers are crossed so that they roll off at 80 none have a bottom end
& the 2 subs are powered by a 2 channel made for them only amp
it's a HTIB system for rich people biggrin.gif if you get the flow

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Just introducing myself as a proud klipsch owner. I have budget system pieced together from sales and hand me downs. I am very happy with my system although I am eyeing the reference series, particularly the RF-7IIs. This thread is awesome! You guys rock!

 

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the THX line is another whole beast & sadly it don't mix &/or play well with other Kilpsch speakers .
the reason is it designed as a complete system , the speakers are crossed so that they roll off at 80 none have a bottom end
& the 2 subs are powered by a 2 channel made for them only amp
it's a HTIB system for rich people biggrin.gif if you get the flow
I'm sure everyone here uses subwoofer together with the Reference towers for movies.
If my usage is purely for movies, should I even bother with the Reference series? Or the KL650 is the only one?
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Just introducing myself as a proud klipsch owner. I have budget system pieced together from sales and hand me downs. I am very happy with my system although I am eyeing the reference series, particularly the RF-7IIs. This thread is awesome! You guys rock!

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 Hi PWH1 (and malmstump and Tasdom) - Sorry it's been about 3 weeks since your kind response! I've been busy trying to get everything squared-away, including choosing and setting up the new SVS PB2000s... I spoke with SVS about which sub(s) to get, and wouldn't you know it, they recommended the dual PB2000s over one PB ultra or SB Ultra.  I also noticed the PB2000 was in your line-up (btw, Semper Fi, Devil Dog), and I went with them.  Damn, they are off-the-chart incredible with the new Reference speakers!  I attached a pic as requested... please disregard the mess, I've got a ton of work left to do including room treatments (you can spot the box of ATS Acoustics material in the corner that I'm using to build my bass traps and acoustic panels), cable management and recalibration, just to name a few of the to-do items.  I'll post more as I make progress.  Cheers, and thanks again!

 

Brent

 

The Setup to date:

2 RF-82IIs, RC-62s, 2 RS-52IIs

2 SVS PB2000s

Samsung UN65EH6000

 

Linux & XBMC serving up Blu-ray/DVD/Music (all rooms, cat-5e connected to 8Tb ReadyNAS)

Nice set up..


my stuff:

Harman Kardon AVR 3600

Emotiva XPA-3

OPPO BDP-103

Klipsch RF-82II Mains

Klipsch RC 62II Center

Klipsch SS.5 L&R Surrounds

Klipsch SS.5 L&R Rear Surrounds

HSU Research VTF2-MK4 Subwoofer

Samsung UN65F8000 LED Monitor

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Just introducing myself as a proud klipsch owner. I have budget system pieced together from sales and hand me downs. I am very happy with my system although I am eyeing the reference series, particularly the RF-7IIs. This thread is awesome! You guys rock!

 

L/R: F-30

C: C-20

Surround: KSS-3 (searching for S-20s on sale)

Sub: Sub-12

AVR: Harman Kardon AVR 147

Devices: HTPC, PS3, Wii, Chromecast, Behringer MIX800 (Karaoke Mixer)

Projector: Benq W1070

Screen: Visual Apex 120"

Remote: Logitech Harmony 520

 

Hello, nice screen size ya got there!!


my stuff:

Harman Kardon AVR 3600

Emotiva XPA-3

OPPO BDP-103

Klipsch RF-82II Mains

Klipsch RC 62II Center

Klipsch SS.5 L&R Surrounds

Klipsch SS.5 L&R Rear Surrounds

HSU Research VTF2-MK4 Subwoofer

Samsung UN65F8000 LED Monitor

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I'm sure everyone here uses subwoofer together with the Reference towers for movies.
If my usage is purely for movies, should I even bother with the Reference series? Or the KL650 is the only one?
it's for left right & center use so you'd need 3 of them
specs to 46 ? I'd say it starts rolling off much higher
a pair of 7II don't actually need a sub when set to large , yeah you'd miss the LFE channel thou rolleyes.gif

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Hello, nice screen size ya got there!!

 

Thanks! Its amazing. No need to go to the movies anymore.

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the THX line is another whole beast & sadly it don't mix &/or play well with other Kilpsch speakers .
the reason is it designed as a complete system , the speakers are crossed so that they roll off at 80 none have a bottom end
& the 2 subs are powered by a 2 channel made for them only amp
it's a HTIB system for rich people biggrin.gif if you get the flow

I am dissapointed in what you said about the THX system as I was thinking that might be the holy grail for me in klipsch. So do you really feel its a HTIB for rich people, vs a r7 II system?
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