Originally Posted by DaJoJo
yeah i got that limitations factor. you can always tilt them to point to the right direction anyways. i was at a friends home and he uses a cheap 1,50€ laserpointer for it, think i get one too, never thought of using this , but it is a great usefull tool for such stuff as speakerplacement. the WDST design makes it less sensitive in placement as in left/right movement, but they wouldn't function right close to a side-wall and too close together though. also they do not function well if not at the right height/aim to mlp. audyssey does speaker-angle tuning ? i thought only yamaha and anthem had such feature.
i do feel offended when u say i have no idea of what im talking about, im sure there are more people then me that would say i do know a little. i have no problem to admit when i'm wrong , but if i'm not then i have a hard time admitting it indeed and i want solid proof that i am. then i mean proof that is conform the situation/stuff we are talking about and not some common things other standard guidelines.
Well, I want the speakers above my listening position more than they already are, so pointing them downward (as I think you're suggesting) sort of defeats that purpose. I don't do much multi-channel music listening so I'm satisfied with a more diffuse-sounding surround field. Besides, all the wiring is hidden as the speakers are currently mounted, so if I do point them down, you'd be able to see the wiring and they'll no longer be flush with the wall. Yuck. FWIW, I do plan to aim my front heights (RB-81IIs) toward the MLP once I get them, so I'm not totally against the notion of speaker-aiming.
Relax, I never said you didn't know what you were talking about. But you dismissed all of the speaker-positioning recommendations I posted links to by saying they only applied to Dolby Pro-Logic (and by this I assume you meant legacy matrix-encoded surround) soundtracks. I disagree -- I think they very clearly apply to modern discrete 5.1 and 7.1 soundtracks.
Here's why I think your line of reasoning was preposterous. DVD was first available at retail in 1997. Along with DVD came discrete surround sound for the home (like Dolby Digital 5.1 and later DTS Digital Surround). I think it's reasonable to assume that DVD (and, by extension, discrete surround) became the de-facto home video standard by 2000 and had fully displaced legacy Dolby Surround and Dolby Pro-Logic formats (like VHS) by 2004. Therefore, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the standard surround sound format in 2004 was discrete Dolby Digital 5.1.
Now, if what you say is true - that all of those speaker placement recommendations that I posted/linked to only apply to legacy matrix surround mixes, that means that all of those websites are now (at least) 10 years out of date. Really? I don't buy that all of those manufacturers - most of them pretty big names in the cinema and home theater businesses - haven't updated their websites in the past 10 years. So, for the sake of currency alone (not to mention common sense and a few other reasons), we can reasonably conclude that those speaker placement recommendations do indeed apply to discrete, Dolby Digital 5.1 (and, by extension, DTS 5.1 and discrete 7.1) soundtracks.
So, it's your prerogative to dismiss the speaker positioning recommendations I posted. Heck, it's your home theater; do whatever you want. But to suggest that they're wrong, or outdated, or don't apply, well, that plainly defies logic. At best, it's disingenuous to recommend speaker placements other than what the websites I linked to suggest. At worst, it's just plain wrong.
Now, seriously, that's all I'm going to say about it. My flipping fingers are tired from all this typing and I need to watch Game of Thrones.