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post #36931 of 40276 Old 06-16-2014, 08:31 PM
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Thinking of getting some speaker cables with bananas. I'm just using some cheap 16AWG wire with no bananas. These are fairly cheap. Just want them for my front three speakers. Do these look ok for 2.5 meters a pair for 50.00? They are 12AWG. 6N copper cable with 322 strands. Nakamichi bananas. Diameter of cable is 13mm. Seems pretty thick. All opinions good or bad appreciated. Thank you.
you know i don't like bananas
but yeah they look nice and imho can't go wrong with nakamichi, they make really decent stuff. also i totally understand you don't wanna go through all the trouble to make some DIY. if somehow ur opinion changes on DIY cables, there is this thread somewhere in the forum about custom made monoprice cables and they look really cool.

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Thinking of getting some speaker cables with bananas. I'm just using some cheap 16AWG wire with no bananas. These are fairly cheap. Just want them for my front three speakers. Do these look ok for 2.5 meters a pair for 50.00? They are 12AWG. 6N copper cable with 322 strands. Nakamichi bananas. Diameter of cable is 13mm. Seems pretty thick. All opinions good or bad appreciated. Thank you.
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Making some preparations for some new toys? haha, I bet you're getting excited!
Oh yea I'm getting excited hee hee. The 7's are gonna be a lil overkill for my room but hey there's nothing wrong with that right. I may have to move my sub and entertainment stand over about 3-4 inches to accommodate the big dogs. Not a big deal though. My neighbors are really gonna hate me now.

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Not this again. Maybe to you the RC-64II timbre-matches the RF-82II mains after you, uh, "trim it down," but not to Klipsch nor many others. Changing the volume of the center channel speaker is not going to change its voicing. This is not a matter of opinion; it is a MATTER OF FACT.

The RC-64II and the RF-82II do not share common tweeter assemblies. The RC-62II and the RF-82II do share the same tweeter. It is this fact and not crossover specs, nor efficiency specs, nor woofer size, that in this case determines the best timbre-match. One might like the RC-64II better than the RC-62II. There's nothing wrong with that. But that does not mean that the RC-64II is better timbre-matched to the RF-82II than the RC-62II is.

This is easy. It really is! The RC-64II's voicing matches the RF-7II mains the best. The RC-62II's voicing matches all of the other Reference towers' voicing better than the RC-64II will. Just look at which sets of speakers' tweeters match one another. This ain't rocket science. And yes, I'm using voicing and timbre-matching interchangeably for the purposes of this discussion.

Again, DaJoJo might prefer the RC-64II to the RC-62II for any number of reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that. Heck, I'm sure he's not the only one. But, again, just because he likes the RC-64II better does not mean it's a better timbre-match for the RF-82IIs. Maybe timbre-matching across the front soundstage isn't as important to him as some other quality the RC-64II possesses that the RC-62II doesn't. I can't say. But a seamless soundstage - one that you get through proper timbre-matching - is vitally important to me. Thus, when I had my RF-82IIs, I went with an RC-62II. Now that I have RF-7IIs, I've moved to an RC-64II. I wouldn't mix the two up. Ever.

ClawAndTalon (a professional custom installer who knows a thing or two) went through this exact same discussion with DaJoJo a few weeks ago and I thought we'd put it to bed back then. Evidently not.

Blackmamba, if you want an unbiased opinion, call Klipsch and ask them whether the RC-62II or the RC-64II is the better timbre-match for your mains. They will say that the RC-62II is better matched. Heck, they even recommend on their website that you pair the RC-62II and the RF-82II! I don't know how much more of a recommendation you need.
Perhaps timbre is the wrong word, but my rc64ii definately, to my ears, matches my rf82iis a lot better than my rc62ii ever did. I really dont want to argue and could care less if no-one else agrees but my opinion is the rc62ii is both physically and audibly too small between 2 towers with twin 8" woofers. In fact those 2 points were the only reasons I got the bigger center.
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Perhaps timbre is the wrong word, but my rc64ii definately, to my ears, matches my rf82iis a lot better than my rc62ii ever did. I really dont want to argue and could care less if no-one else agrees but my opinion is the rc62ii is both physically and audibly too small between 2 towers with twin 8" woofers. In fact those 2 points were the only reasons I got the bigger center.
And I will add I would much rather have a center that sounds better and apparently mismatched to the l/r than a weak sounding smaller 'exact timbre match'.
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Need help. I picked up some RF-62's this weekend. Can these be paired w/ the old rc-3 ii center?
Same size driver, same size horn. I would be happy, others may not be due to different xover or aesthetics
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Oh yea I'm getting excited hee hee. The 7's are gonna be a lil overkill for my room but hey there's nothing wrong with that right. I may have to move my sub and entertainment stand over about 3-4 inches to accommodate the big dogs. Not a big deal though. My neighbors are really gonna hate me now.
Even before your system was pretty good so I don't think your neighbors ever like you maybe long time ago before you bought first HT system . I don't have any and it is great.
Sens some picture of your set up when you pick them up.
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I bought my first speaker setup for the first time in my life as i was into audiophile headphones before. I bought a pair of klipsch rb-81 ii as i would incorporate them in my home theater when my new home is complete, many months from now. I am running them with my computer and a audio-gd 11.32 preamp dac which has sabre es9018 dac in it which is 32bit/384k capable and i bought it for my hifiman he500 a year ago(a little bass light dac but very detailed for headphones at least). I didn't have any money left after i bought the speakers and the stands to go along with them, for an amp. Anyhow, i bought a used old celestion av-1000 5.1 capable receiver and am running the speakers from its stereo dvd input. It must be old as it has a vcr inputs etc. I have no idea if it is good enough for the speakers but i think it is capable of at least 70Wpc on 8 ohms load(don't know for sure as there is not much available on the internet about this receiver) which should be good enough for the speakers. What do you guys think?

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Perhaps timbre is the wrong word, but my rc64ii definately, to my ears, matches my rf82iis a lot better than my rc62ii ever did. I really dont want to argue and could care less if no-one else agrees but my opinion is the rc62ii is both physically and audibly too small between 2 towers with twin 8" woofers. In fact those 2 points were the only reasons I got the bigger center.
Fair enough. I was only specifically arguing the "timbre-matched" issue, but if the the RC-64II / RF-82II combo sounds better to you, then by all means go for it! FWIW, I always thought my RC-62II sounded great with my RF-82IIs, but that's just my opinion.
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I'm still having trouble with this idea of blowing a Klipsch tweeter without something else being wrong and/or the tweeter itself just being bad from the start. We frequently listen to music at 0 on the AVR with a Crown XLS 1500 driving a pair of RF-7iis right on the edge of clipping. I guess I do have the advantage of the lights on the Crown and do turn it down if the music is too hot. But people beat on Klipsch and beat on them and beat on them and they keep running strong. Must be that one odd case of an early death of an electronic part but with the added complaint on the B&W speakers that were sold I'd sure be triple checking everything I could think of and more: warranties run out.
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Yeah, I've never blown any sort of driver on my Klipsch...

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I have owned a ton of klipsch and have not blown any drivers. It was a fluke or it was overdriven. And I like s.. loud!
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I have owned a ton of klipsch and have not blown any drivers. It was a fluke or it was overdriven. And I like s.. loud!
Have'nt blown any drivers either but I guess tweeters don't like me lol

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Have'nt blown any drivers either but I guess tweeters don't like me lol
I ran the 64ii with the 82s for a bit and imo it sounded really really good. I think what you gain with the better speaker is more than anything you lose with voice matching being a little different. At lower levels it probably be better to go with the 62 for value. But for you I think the bigger horn driver might be the way to go.
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You could buy one used and if for some reason you like the 62 better you can always sell the 64 for your money back.
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You could buy one used and if for some reason you like the 62 better you can always sell the 64 for your money back.
Or he could buy a used set of speakers like your front 3 for cheap and never have a worry.

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I ran the 64ii with the 82s for a bit and imo it sounded really really good. I think what you gain with the better speaker is more than anything you lose with voice matching being a little different. At lower levels it probably be better to go with the 62 for value. But for you I think the bigger horn driver might be the way to go.
it's def been a thought that's been going through my mind. My plan is to get the replacement tweeter and then if I blow it again then the place that sold me the set will let me exchange it for the 64. I'm curious to see if it was just because that movie was crazy loud.
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Or he could buy a used set of speakers like your front 3 for cheap and never have a worry.
He would only have to worry how to fit them into his room lol.
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Or he could buy a used set of speakers like your front 3 for cheap and never have a worry.
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He would only have to worry how to fit them into his room lol.
Bills son is selling 3 for 1800 I think.
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Have'nt blown any drivers either but I guess tweeters don't like me lol
Tweeters and woofers are both drivers FYI.
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Fair enough. I was only specifically arguing the "timbre-matched" issue, but if the the RC-64II / RF-82II combo sounds better to you, then by all means go for it! FWIW, I always thought my RC-62II sounded great with my RF-82IIs, but that's just my opinion.
I also have RC-62II with my RF-82II's and sound amazing to me. I don't have feeling like I need to get bigger center, maybe I will then I will hear RC-64II with RF-82II but I don't have a change to even compare it, so I will be happy with what I have.

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I have owned a ton of klipsch and have not blown any drivers. It was a fluke or it was overdriven. And I like s.. loud!
Yes me to never had that problem not even with Media Pro 5.1 Klispch speakers.

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He would only have to worry how to fit them into his room lol.
The center channel would be the problem for him with a FP.

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I also feel the 62 is a great center. And was really good with the 82s.
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OP definitely doesn't need a 64 as a center versus the matched 62, I just wanted to assure him it would work. You merely need to eq it differently to come into line with your fronts.

My 64 matches my heritage fronts very very well and that is about as far away as you can possibly get in timbre.

That being said... the 82/62 set up should be more than enough for any listener. That is unless that listener wants to really step up and go big. Swapping out one component (as in the case of a 62 for a 64) in the scheme of things isnt going to make an extremely dramatic difference.

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The center channel would be the problem for him with a FP.
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The center channel would be the problem for him with a FP.
IIRC he has a big Sharp LCD not an FP setup.

Damn, I think at this point I might know more about his setup than my own!
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IIRC he has a big Sharp LCD not an FP setup.

Damn, I think at this point I might know more about his setup than my own!
I meant FP as to being a Flat Panel.... I forgot it could also be Front Projection.

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Good excuse to buy a AT screen
Yup.... I should have mine around the end of the month

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