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Well I've never heard the 82's but I can't imagine them being that much of a step up from the 62's. Yes the 7's are huge in size and sound. They are that much better. My room is 19 x 13 so not very big. I have no intentions on upgrading and I smell a sign of relief after getting the 7's.
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The RF7II's are an incredible speaker. The little time I have spent with them I am very very impressed. They have a huge sound and are effortless. I noticed right away with music that I had to back off on the MV compared to my RF62II's. If there is anyone out there that's on a limb about stepping up to the 7's and that already owns the 62's or 82's I am saying don't hesitate. The 7's are that good. I use to always listen to music in 5.1 Dolby PLII. With these 7's I like 2 channel way better now.
That was how I felt when going from the 82s to the 7iis. It was bigger and more effortless. Also no strain and a more refined sound. You know right away Its in a different league. And thats not a knock on the smaller ones. The 7s do cost quite a bit more.

Congrats again Chad. Great to see them in a great home
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It is really that big step up, you think even from RF-82II's? I'm sure they are amazing. From price point I understand it it is a big step $$$ so I'm just wondering in let say regular size room 18x18 if you really can feel different that much, if I counting all around subs and rest of the system.
I went from the 82 to the 7s. Bigger and better at everything.
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I went from the 82 to the 7s. Bigger and better at everything.
Alright I believe it, I never had a change to listen them but my RF-82II's are pretty nice speakers and I'm happy with it probably until I listen RF-7II's, what is good price is a lot more for those so it will keep me on the ground and not flying in the sky

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Alright I believe it, I never had a change to listen them but my RF-82II's are pretty nice speakers and I'm happy with it probably until I listen RF-7II's, what is good price is a lot more for those so it will keep me on the ground and not flying in the sky
You definitely would not need to upgrade. But this hobby is about buying stuff and buying stuff lol. No matter how many times we say that we are done and won't be upgrading anything we still will. Enjoy your speakers as long as you can. At some point you will need a fix for your addiction
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You definitely would not need to upgrade. But this hobby is about buying stuff and buying stuff lol. No matter how many times we say that we are done and won't be upgrading anything we still will. Enjoy your speakers as long as you can. At some point you will need a fix for your addiction
You are right, it is never ending story!!! and we all will upgrade sooner or later.

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Look what I picked up yesterday...
Congratulations. Your gain is Refernce Head's loss (he now got a greater kind of monster anyway)

I have both the RF-7 II and RF-62 II, and the 3312 as the pre/proc. There is no comparison in 2 channel music between the two.

I imagine your new setup sounds extra awesome when watching BD movies, especially with the SVS SB13U
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You are right, it is never ending story!!! and we all will upgrade sooner or later.
Especially when the new Reference line is supposed to come out later this year and is designed to tempt you to upgrade.
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Especially when the new Reference line is supposed to come out later this year and is designed to tempt you to upgrade.
well question is how better they can be? Those reference series are pretty amazing at least to me. We will see if new design and performance will suck me in

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well question is how better they can be? Those reference series are pretty amazing at least to me. We will see if new design and performance will suck me in
My 7 setup sounds amazing enough for me now. If I ever upgrade, it would be the like of the Palladium line

Maybe my next upgrade would be to replace my Klipsch sub with a SVS PB13U.
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My 7 setup sounds amazing enough for me now. If I ever upgrade, it would be the like of the Palladium line

Maybe my next upgrade would be to replace my Klipsch sub with a SVS PB13U.
100% agree, I have no idea how 7 set up sounds like but I'm just step down and I love my set up at least for now. SVS subs will make a huge step up, I come from Klipsch to dual Pluses and they are pretty nice subs!!!!

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well question is how better they can be? Those reference series are pretty amazing at least to me. We will see if new design and performance will suck me in
I'll bet that same question was asked when the RF7ii replaced the RF7.
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I think I am finished for now. I finished my Klipsch KLF setup by replacing my RB-61 II's surrounds with KLF C-7. Have had them about a month and the KLF C-7 although a center speaker sounds way better than the RB-61 II's. So now I have 2 Klipsch KLF-10's and 3 KLF-C-7's. If I ever make room for rears I may move everything back a position and replace the fronts with KLF-20's. I went from little 5" reference to 10" KLF's and just don't see the need to upgrade for quite awhile. Saved a lot of money buying out of production speakers over say what a new RF-82 system would have cost, not to mention the 10" RF-7's.

Subs are Dual HSU VTF-3 MK4's. I don't think my room can handle any more bass. I use them both as end tables and get insane tactile feel as well.

Think I'm set for a few years on the AVR as well. Just picked up a Denon X4000 a couple months back.

My son is now getting the old Reference system put in his bedroom to replace his Onkyo HTIB system. He already had my old Klipsch 10" sub. He will ger my Denon 2113 as well. I will move his Onkyo HTIB to my daughters room. The only thing I might need to buy is a sub for her room.
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I have the Quartet Speakers with the RSW-15 Sub
The speakers are powered by a Pioneer Elite Tuner.

I am looking for a Center and rear speaker to complete the surround

Any suggestions??
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3 more Quartets would be ideal; but, if you don't have the room, 3 Heresy II, or a pair of HII for Surround & an Academy Center.
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Hi,

I have a couple of newbie questions about Klipsch speakers. I am about to update my 12 year old JBL speakers and Denon receiver. I have listened to Def Tech, Polk, Klipsch, Energy, Infinity and decided to go with Klipsch based on what I heard and my budget.
  • Room size: 22 ft x 19 ft
  • 95% movies, 5% music
  • 5.1 setup

Two options I am considering:
  • (2) RF-42 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-41 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-42 II Center Speaker
  • (2) RF-52 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-42 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-52 II Center Speaker

1) Is it OK to mix the speakers between the 42 and 52 series? E.g. (2) RF-52 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-41 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-42 II Center Speaker. Based on what I read, it sounds like front speakers are a better investment than the surrounds (not sure about the center speaker?).

2) Can these options fill a 22x19ft room? I see a lot of people mention this on the forums but I didn't see a recommended way to determine the speakers needed for a given room.

3) Do I really need a $450 subwoofer (SW-110 is recommended on the Klipsch site)? It is almost half of the cost of (5) 42 series speakers.

4) What kind of receiver do I need to drive these speakers? Any recommendations?

Thanks!
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You definitely would not need to upgrade. But this hobby is about buying stuff and buying stuff lol. No matter how many times we say that we are done and won't be upgrading anything we still will. Enjoy your speakers as long as you can. At some point you will need a fix for your addiction
Now you have the Cinema series. How's the comparison between Reference vs the Cinema speaker?
How about encouraging the rest to skip the RF7ii and jump straigh into the Cinema series?
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Especially when the new Reference line is supposed to come out later this year and is designed to tempt you to upgrade.
Some are coming out this month ( July ).
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Now you have the Cinema series. How's the comparison between Reference vs the Cinema speaker?
How about encouraging the rest to skip the RF7ii and jump straigh into the Cinema series?
To me the rf-7ii has everything. It has amazing performance and it's like a peice of art for looks imo. But for as good as it is it just can't compete with these pro speakers. It's like a different weight class. And that's ht and music. The voice and instruments are large and crisp to a level I had not heard before. Hard to explain with words. Need to hear them to really see what I mean .

I do recommend them for behind a
screen. But I can see lots of issues with these for some homes. No grills means kids will probably smash in cones or worse. Depending on the pet that could also be bad news. The ports are really big and a small cat could get inside. And don't forget the looks would be a really hard sell to the wife. But hey if performance is all that matters then buy pro.
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3 more Quartets would be ideal; but, if you don't have the room, 3 Heresy II, or a pair of HII for Surround & an Academy Center.
Or a C7 center.

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The voice and instruments are large and crisp to a level I had not heard before. Hard to explain with words. Need to hear them to really see what I mean .

A lot of folks see these large speakers and think it's all about volume. Ironically, they couldn't be more wrong (my opinion).


You said it... it's hard to describe but in the end, it's all about scale. It's not about 'hearing' a drum but perhaps immersing your head inside the drum.... it can be at the same volume but....it's just 'bigger' sounding.


I've tried to describe it as you are now listening on the scale of life (not that I know what that really means, I just think it sounds good )
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Or a C7 center.
Oh, yes, was hoping you'd point out the KLF-C7!

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I think I am finished for now. I finished my Klipsch KLF setup by replacing my RB-61 II's surrounds with KLF C-7. Have had them about a month and the KLF C-7 although a center speaker sounds way better than the RB-61 II's. So now I have 2 Klipsch KLF-10's and 3 KLF-C-7's. If I ever make room for rears I may move everything back a position and replace the fronts with KLF-20's. I went from little 5" reference to 10" KLF's and just don't see the need to upgrade for quite awhile. Saved a lot of money buying out of production speakers over say what a new RF-82 system would have cost, not to mention the 10" RF-7's.

Subs are Dual HSU VTF-3 MK4's. I don't think my room can handle any more bass. I use them both as end tables and get insane tactile feel as well.

Think I'm set for a few years on the AVR as well. Just picked up a Denon X4000 a couple months back.

My son is now getting the old Reference system put in his bedroom to replace his Onkyo HTIB system. He already had my old Klipsch 10" sub. He will ger my Denon 2113 as well. I will move his Onkyo HTIB to my daughters room. The only thing I might need to buy is a sub for her room.
How would you compare the 2113 to the x4000? I'm about to make the same jump.

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Hi,

I have a couple of newbie questions about Klipsch speakers. I am about to update my 12 year old JBL speakers and Denon receiver. I have listened to Def Tech, Polk, Klipsch, Energy, Infinity and decided to go with Klipsch based on what I heard and my budget.
  • Room size: 22 ft x 19 ft
  • 95% movies, 5% music
  • 5.1 setup

Two options I am considering:
  • (2) RF-42 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-41 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-42 II Center Speaker
  • (2) RF-52 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-42 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-52 II Center Speaker

1) Is it OK to mix the speakers between the 42 and 52 series? E.g. (2) RF-52 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-41 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-42 II Center Speaker. Based on what I read, it sounds like front speakers are a better investment than the surrounds (not sure about the center speaker?).

2) Can these options fill a 22x19ft room? I see a lot of people mention this on the forums but I didn't see a recommended way to determine the speakers needed for a given room.

3) Do I really need a $450 subwoofer (SW-110 is recommended on the Klipsch site)? It is almost half of the cost of (5) 42 series speakers.

4) What kind of receiver do I need to drive these speakers? Any recommendations?

Thanks!
In my experience, the 52s, and especially the rc-52 wasn't filling a 21x12 room adequately. If you are going with that size get the bigger, 62 center and a decent sub and you'll be ok.

You don't need that klipsch sub. There are much better subs in the price range. Eg the svs pb1000 would destroy that sub for just a little more.

For a budget you could diy or get the bic pl 200 or something


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How would you compare the 2113 to the x4000? I'm about to make the same jump.
Night and day. I really needed the extra video outs for my computer screen and my projector. I was using a switch before. Audyssey XT32 is tons better as well.

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I have line on an RSW-15 in great condition for $400. Is it worth the money or should I keep saving up for a SVS ultra?
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I have line on an RSW-15 in great condition for $400. Is it worth the money or should I keep saving up for a SVS ultra?
Hmm I've never heard the RSW-15 but from what I've read it seems to be one of the best Klipsch has ever engineered. $400 is a great price as well if in great condition. Personally I would still keep saving for an SVS Ultra. I know I'm another SVS fanboy but their subs are truly excellent as well as all the perks that go along with buying from them.

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I have line on an RSW-15 in great condition for $400. Is it worth the money or should I keep saving up for a SVS ultra?
If it is in good condition, absolutely buy it. I paid just under that for mine. Prior to my RSW-15, I had a single Velodyne HGS15 (15" sub with 1250 rms / 3000 peak amp). The Velodyne sounded great but I just didn't "feel" the bass like I wanted to in my 13' x 19' with 10' ceiling room. I purchased a second HGS15 and now I was feeling it as well as hearing it. I had the opportunity to buy an RSW-15 in Maple finish for $350 so I jumped on it, knowing I could always sell it if it did not sound as good as the HGS15's.

After setting up the RSW-15, I sold one Velodyne HGS15 and after a month I realized I had turned off the other Velodyne HGS15 so it was then I realized the single RSW-15 performed as well as (2) Velodyne HGS15's. It's truly an amazing sub.







I later purchased a pair of Klipsch RT-10d subs and they too did not perform as well as a single RSW-15. The RSW-15 is a very large sub. I had no idea how deep it was until I brought it home. To give you a size reference, below are pics of it next to a pair of RT-10d and RF-83's.



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I have line on an RSW-15 in great condition for $400. Is it worth the money or should I keep saving up for a SVS ultra?
If you have a large room save up for a SVS 1000 watt. For $400.00 that is a good deal that 600 watt sub. Opinions vary on Klipsch subs but for a room like mine 10X14 my two used Klipsch Sub 12" 300/650 watt BASH have had no issues for 6 years now with Cornwalls as fronts for HT use. If I had the $$ and room a Danley DTS 10 really digs down deep. http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/produ...ty-subs/dts10/

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Opinions vary on Klipsch subs but for a room like mine 10X14 my two used Klipsch Sub 12" 300/650 watt BASH have had no issues for 6 years now with Cornwalls as fronts for HT use. If I had the $$ and room a Danley DTS 10 really digs down deep. http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/produ...ty-subs/dts10/
I too recently considered the DTS-10 but frankly, the single RSW-15 is working beautifully with my LaScala Trio. I figure I can always purchase a second RSW-15 down the road if I feel I need more bass.
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