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post #37111 of 53750 Old 07-01-2014, 08:20 AM
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Hi,

I have a couple of newbie questions about Klipsch speakers. I am about to update my 12 year old JBL speakers and Denon receiver. I have listened to Def Tech, Polk, Klipsch, Energy, Infinity and decided to go with Klipsch based on what I heard and my budget.
  • Room size: 22 ft x 19 ft
  • 95% movies, 5% music
  • 5.1 setup
Two options I am considering:
  • (2) RF-42 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-41 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-42 II Center Speaker
  • (2) RF-52 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-42 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-52 II Center Speaker
1) Is it OK to mix the speakers between the 42 and 52 series? E.g. (2) RF-52 II Floorstanding Speaker, (2) RS-41 II Surround Speaker, (1) RC-42 II Center Speaker. Based on what I read, it sounds like front speakers are a better investment than the surrounds (not sure about the center speaker?).

2) Can these options fill a 22x19ft room? I see a lot of people mention this on the forums but I didn't see a recommended way to determine the speakers needed for a given room.

3) Do I really need a $450 subwoofer (SW-110 is recommended on the Klipsch site)? It is almost half of the cost of (5) 42 series speakers.

4) What kind of receiver do I need to drive these speakers? Any recommendations?

Thanks!

I recently did a big upgrade myself going from 5yr old Synergy's to Reference. My LR is about the same size at 22x20 with the kitchen and entry off of it. At first I went with the RF 62II's with a RC 52II with my RS 52II's, but within 2 weeks I was exchanging the RF's and RC for the RF 82II's and RC 62II and it was a big difference. I went through Crutchfield and was very pleased with their service and speedy delivery, I even ordered my AV receiver through them. As for sub, I got the SW-110 free with my purchase but never used it. As you see in my Sig I went with SVS and again very happy with both the purchase and SVS for their service.


Receiver wise I had pretty much narrowed it down to 3, Yamaha A1030, Denon X4000, and the Pioneer Elite SC-75. As a Yamaha owner for 15yrs you can't beat their longevity and durability for a AV product, plus it just had a better sound than the other two I demoed.


As everyone here will tell you, speaker wise go as big as you can on your budget and enjoy the addiction of Home Theater.


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I recently did a big upgrade myself going from 5yr old Synergy's to Reference. My LR is about the same size at 22x20 with the kitchen and entry off of it. At first I went with the RF 62II's with a RC 52II with my RS 52II's, but within 2 weeks I was exchanging the RF's and RC for the RF 82II's and RC 62II and it was a big difference. I went through Crutchfield and was very pleased with their service and speedy delivery, I even ordered my AV receiver through them. As for sub, I got the SW-110 free with my purchase but never used it. As you see in my Sig I went with SVS and again very happy with both the purchase and SVS for their service.


Receiver wise I had pretty much narrowed it down to 3, Yamaha A1030, Denon X4000, and the Pioneer Elite SC-75. As a Yamaha owner for 15yrs you can't beat their longevity and durability for a AV product, plus it just had a better sound than the other two I demoed.


As everyone here will tell you, speaker wise go as big as you can on your budget and enjoy the addiction of Home Theater.


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This is like my story, from Synergy after 5 years jump to Reference line RF-82II's and RC-62II. Denon X4000, dual SVS pluses, now just surrounds and I'm happy guy , system sounds amazing!!!!
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Thank you guys for the info and I love the pictures! The comparisons make me want to drive down and get it now! I have heard many good things about the RSW-15 and it makes me wonder why they ever stopped making it? I'm guessing it will not dig as deep as an SVS but might push more air around in a room.
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I'm not trying to sway you from the SVS but for that price, you absolutely can't beat it. You will spend 3 times that much on an equivalent in the SVS.

The RSW-15 goes down to 19Hz. I've never been fond of Klipsch subs but like you, always heard rave reviews about the RSW-15. Figured I had to hear it for myself. I was willing to sell two Velodyne HGS15's that had an MSRP of $2500 each. YMMV.
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I too recently considered the DTS-10 but frankly, the single RSW-15 is working beautifully with my LaScala Trio. I figure I can always purchase a second RSW-15 down the road if I feel I need more bass.
Certainly do as you may but keep in mind the bass from a direct radiator unit will be different than bass from a horn unit. With your LaScalas, you would probably notice a difference between the two.


Too bad I'm not still in Jacksonville....you could have heard the Danley's. (I'm sure there are others around, not suggesting I was only game around)


As you've done your current journey......you'll probably end up with some larger subs anyway so we'll all just be patient.


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As you've done your current journey......you'll probably end up with some larger subs anyway so we'll all just be patient.
I'm sure you are correct, I just am not looking at subs at the moment. I have plenty on my plate working on upgrading my front wall and screen from a 103" to a 150" AT Screen.
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Would the Klipsch RF-42 be better then the Icon KF-26 for the towers.

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A lot of folks see these large speakers and think it's all about volume. Ironically, they couldn't be more wrong (my opinion).


You said it... it's hard to describe but in the end, it's all about scale. It's not about 'hearing' a drum but perhaps immersing your head inside the drum.... it can be at the same volume but....it's just 'bigger' sounding.


I've tried to describe it as you are now listening on the scale of life (not that I know what that really means, I just think it sounds good )
I think looks can fool us on speaker performance. We see high end looks and it's hard not to think it will sound just as good. These speakers don't look the best in pics. In person is another story. The size and bulk of everything is godly. And I know what you mean. It takes very little to wake these up. If klipsch veneered these, made nice grills, and incased the top like a khorn. I wonder what the price tag would be. Maybe 8 -10x as much lol. And it would offer no sound upgrade at all.

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Cool New Klipsch REFERENCE Speakers

http://www.areadvd.de/tests/test-kli...-r-25c-sw-112/

OK, it's in German...at least it has pictures...
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Great find Sancho! Thank you for sharing! Hmm should be called Synereference. Looks like they took some things from the Synergy line and Reference then combined them as one lol. Interesting. I'll keep my 7II's thank you . Actually it's the Icon line with gold drivers.

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http://www.areadvd.de/tests/test-kli...-r-25c-sw-112/

OK, it's in German...at least it has pictures...
So the RF-82 is now R-28F, RF-51 is now R-15M, RC-52 is now R-25C.

Just mix up the letters!

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Great find Sancho! Thank you for sharing! Hmm should be called Synereference. Looks like they took some things from the Synergy line and Reference then combined them as one lol. Interesting. I'll keep my 7II's thank you
that horn assy is some what funky being that shallow in depth . I'll bet it has a AL diaphragm in the driver .

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http://www.areadvd.de/tests/test-kli...-r-25c-sw-112/

OK, it's in German...at least it has pictures...
Good job to find those!!!! They look pretty nice we will see what else they going to put out this Year.
You can use Google to translate whole article.

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Big fail IMO. Very disappointed. I was hoping for a whole new look. Lazy a$$ design with no thought put into it.
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Big fail IMO. Very disappointed. I was hoping for a whole new look. Lazy a$$ design with no thought put into it.
Maybe they will do better design on some of those speakers but I agree if the is final look of whole new Reference line then no reason to even think about upgrade. But maybe they will have more to show up.

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Is that an upgrade? It seems a step below the reference 2 line, except for the finish of the boxes. Maybe an upgrade from the synergy line.

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Is that an upgrade? It seems a step below the reference 2 line, except for the finish of the boxes. Maybe an upgrade from the synergy line.
From what Amy said over on the Klipsch Forums, I think you are right on the upgrade from the Synergy line; with upgrades to the Reference line coming out later this year.
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Nice find Sancho! Those are clearly just the Icon K speakers with new copper-colored drivers. The cabinets look identical. I actually think the Synergy line looked nicer.

Since the Icon K speakers were a Best Buy exclusive, and since (I think) Amy said Best Buy had input on the design of some of the new Reference line, any guesses as to where these will be sold?

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It looks like a cross of the Synergy and Icon series to me. If they are then they would make for a nice entry level Klipsch package, but if this is where the Reference line is going then I'm set with what I got, and I'll be looking in discontinued section for some sweet deals later down the road.
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It looks like a cross of the Synergy and Icon series to me. If they are then they would make for a nice entry level Klipsch package, but if this this is where the Reference line is going then I'm set with what I got, and I'll be looking in discontinued section for some sweet deals later down the road.
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Nice find Sancho! Those are clearly just the Icon K speakers with new copper-colored drivers. The cabinets look identical. I actually think the Synergy line looked nicer.

Since the Icon K speakers were a Best Buy exclusive, and since (I think) Amy said Best Buy had input on the design of some of the new Reference line, any guesses as to where these will sold?
Thank you. I think GERMANY would be a pretty safe guess...
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If I was on a budget then yes the new line is nice and it gives the look of the reference line. Better than Icons or Synergys IMO.

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It looks like a cross of the Synergy and Icon series to me. If they are then they would make for a nice entry level Klipsch package, but if this is where the Reference line is going then I'm set with what I got, and I'll be looking in discontinued section for some sweet deals later down the road.
Look at the port trim, legs, horn shape, grill shape and front baffle treatment of the Icon K series compared to these new Refs. You could literally replace the Icons' drivers with these new drivers and they'd appear identical.
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Thank you. I think GERMANY would be a pretty safe guess...
Don't be thick. You know exactly what I meant.
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I'm sure you are correct, I just am not looking at subs at the moment. I have plenty on my plate working on upgrading my front wall and screen from a 103" to a 150" AT Screen.
That's a nice screen upgrade! If you're ever up in the Gainesville area let me know and I'd love to have you over to take a look and hear at my setup. Speakers are out for delivery tomorrow
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FWIW, the RSW-15 has performed very well with both the RF-83 / RC-64 and LaScala Trio setup. My room is 13' x 19' with 10' ceilings so it isn't huge but I'm confident the RSW-15 would rock even in a much larger room as well.

How is this setup ideal for you, given the fact that the bottom 1/3 of the screen is blocked from your viewing angle?
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How is this setup ideal for you, given the fact that the bottom 1/3 of the screen is blocked from your viewing angle?
It's only temporary. The RF83 / RC64 used to be behind the false wall. I pulled them out to be able to A/B between the two systems while deciding which to keep. Once I decided to keep the LaScalas, the RF83 & RC64 were sold.

The three LaScalas will remain out front while I rede build the entire front wall and upgrade to a 150" AT screen where all 3 LaScalas will then be moved behind the screen.
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nice article about the new klipsch. the germans speak about that it has plastic (probably ABS) instead of wood casing and there are Titanium tweeters and some new horn design. they speak of an improved midrange of the Injection Molded Graphite woofers that makes the sound more pronounced overall and less harsh when u put it on loud volume. it's like a combination of icon with reference series. also available in white. price for the mains is allmost same as the rf-82II here.550€ for these and 599€ for rf-82II (i got my 82II for 550€) so probably the only difference is the casing that is plastic instead of wood as the review is more or less the same as the one for the 82II. for icon series point of view it is a nice upgrade. they probably just used the reference drivers so they don't need to make separate drivers for all series and put a nice plastic case around it so it be cheaper to manifacture all in all.
i do hope they come with something better later this year, klipsch made it clear that the current ref series will stay another year so my hope is that it be speakers to fill in the gap between reference and palladium series.i might consider swapping my 82II for those.
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Certainly do as you may but keep in mind the bass from a direct radiator unit will be different than bass from a horn unit. With your LaScalas, you would probably notice a difference between the two.
Too bad I'm not still in Jacksonville....you could have heard the Danley's. (I'm sure there are others around, not suggesting I was only game around)
As you've done your current journey......you'll probably end up with some larger subs anyway so we'll all just be patient.
you happen to have schematics for a DIY dts-10 ? it just costs too much to ship it here to netherlands but i'm curious if i can build it myself and find parts for it over here. i want to buy a svs-pc13ultra coz i can't find anything on those dts-10, but if i can i rather have this danley build myself.

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