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DaJoJo's Avatar DaJoJo
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nice article about the new klipsch. the germans speak about that it has plastic (probably ABS) instead of wood casing and there are Titanium tweeters and some new horn design. they speak of an improved midrange of the Injection Molded Graphite woofers that makes the sound more pronounced overall and less harsh when u put it on loud volume. it's like a combination of icon with reference series. also available in white. price for the mains is allmost same as the rf-82II here.550€ for these and 599€ for rf-82II (i got my 82II for 550€) so probably the only difference is the casing that is plastic instead of wood as the review is more or less the same as the one for the 82II. for icon series point of view it is a nice upgrade. they probably just used the reference drivers so they don't need to make separate drivers for all series and put a nice plastic case around it so it be cheaper to manifacture all in all.
i do hope they come with something better later this year, klipsch made it clear that the current ref series will stay another year so my hope is that it be speakers to fill in the gap between reference and palladium series.i might consider swapping my 82II for those.
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Certainly do as you may but keep in mind the bass from a direct radiator unit will be different than bass from a horn unit. With your LaScalas, you would probably notice a difference between the two.
Too bad I'm not still in Jacksonville....you could have heard the Danley's. (I'm sure there are others around, not suggesting I was only game around)
As you've done your current journey......you'll probably end up with some larger subs anyway so we'll all just be patient.
you happen to have schematics for a DIY dts-10 ? it just costs too much to ship it here to netherlands but i'm curious if i can build it myself and find parts for it over here. i want to buy a svs-pc13ultra coz i can't find anything on those dts-10, but if i can i rather have this danley build myself.
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That's a nice screen upgrade! If you're ever up in the Gainesville area let me know and I'd love to have you over to take a look and hear at my setup. Speakers are out for delivery tomorrow
Likewise if you are ever down near Tampa/Orlando area, hit me up.
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Good afternoon,

Been a while without internet and many, many, many pages read I can finally ask my Question.

Finally decided on amps

NAD T977 PRO
YAMAHA RXA-3040 or RXV3077

11.2 processing finally ready and so looking forward to ATMOS

Question is though,

I have

FL - RF82ii
FR - RF82ii
C - RC62ii
FL HEIGHT - RS62ii
FR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SL - RF82ii
SR - RF82ii
SBL - RF82ii
SBR - RF82ii
SBL HEIGHT - RS62ii
SBR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SW1 - SW115
SW2 - SW115

would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?

thanks in advance.


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^^^ Can you hear the dialog good without cranking the center up any? If so it probably isn't needed. If you feel the Dialog is lacking than you may benefit. IMHO, I would only change if needed as it's best to stay matched.
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post
Good afternoon,

Been a while without internet and many, many, many pages read I can finally ask my Question.

Finally decided on amps

NAD T977 PRO
YAMAHA RXA-3040 or RXV3077

11.2 processing finally ready and so looking forward to ATMOS

Question is though,

I have

FL - RF82ii
FR - RF82ii
C - RC62ii
FL HEIGHT - RS62ii
FR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SL - RF82ii
SR - RF82ii
SBL - RF82ii
SBR - RF82ii
SBL HEIGHT - RS62ii
SBR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SW1 - SW115
SW2 - SW115

would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?

thanks in advance.

Both will work fine. I would get the 64ii. But the 62 would do fine.
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would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?

You said in your post you already have the RC62. If it's working perfectly I would only pay to upgrade to the RC64 when also upgrading the mains to RF7s. I have the RC62 and it fills my 14' x 25' room with ease. I did make a 5db adjustment on the receiver end though to make dialog a tad more clear in my room when the system is booming.


I would never call upgrading "overkill" (that's a bannable offense on the AVS forums!), but if I were in your position I'd have to really not like how it sounds now to pay $1,000+.
Henhrig's Avatar Henhrig
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You said in your post you already have the RC62. If it's working perfectly I would only pay to upgrade to the RC64 when also upgrading the mains to RF7s. I have the RC62 and it fills my 14' x 25' room with ease. I did make a 5db adjustment on the receiver end though to make dialog a tad more clear in my room when the system is booming.


I would never call upgrading "overkill" (that's a bannable offense on the AVS forums!), but if I were in your position I'd have to really not like how it sounds now to pay $1,000+.
Ok so I think I will put the order in for the RC64ii, thanks once again...

I think that will complete my system for a while ( any upgrades from here and my wife will kill me )

I would love RF7ii but they wont fit at the front of my room

All I have to do now is wait for the Yammy to be released and the NAD to arrive.

Cheers
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you happen to have schematics for a DIY dts-10 ? it just costs too much to ship it here to netherlands but i'm curious if i can build it myself and find parts for it over here. i want to buy a svs-pc13ultra coz i can't find anything on those dts-10, but if i can i rather have this danley build myself.


No, I don't. I bought mine already built. You can find pictures of the kits being built. I have no idea how critical the angles are.


This might be a start?


http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...ld-thread.html
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Good afternoon,

Been a while without internet and many, many, many pages read I can finally ask my Question.

Finally decided on amps

NAD T977 PRO
YAMAHA RXA-3040 or RXV3077

11.2 processing finally ready and so looking forward to ATMOS

Question is though,

I have

FL - RF82ii
FR - RF82ii
C - RC62ii
FL HEIGHT - RS62ii
FR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SL - RF82ii
SR - RF82ii
SBL - RF82ii
SBR - RF82ii
SBL HEIGHT - RS62ii
SBR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SW1 - SW115
SW2 - SW115

would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?

thanks in advance.

First let me tell you what amazing set up do you have!!!!
I do have RC-62II and works great with RF-82II's . I just adjust little dialog volume when is more action parts of movies I can't hear it befor the way I want now is amazing. I will get first amp, receiver and then if you will play with your sytem and have a feeling center needs to be better then I will step up for RC-64II.
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post
Good afternoon,

Been a while without internet and many, many, many pages read I can finally ask my Question.

Finally decided on amps

NAD T977 PRO
YAMAHA RXA-3040 or RXV3077

11.2 processing finally ready and so looking forward to ATMOS

Question is though,

I have

FL - RF82ii
FR - RF82ii
C - RC62ii
FL HEIGHT - RS62ii
FR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SL - RF82ii
SR - RF82ii
SBL - RF82ii
SBR - RF82ii
SBL HEIGHT - RS62ii
SBR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SW1 - SW115
SW2 - SW115

would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?

thanks in advance.

First off very nice system you have there! Six RF82II's? SWEET!! Is it possible you could fit a RF82II for a center speaker? Heck you got six now what's one more . If you can't fit an 82 for a center then yes I would get the 64. The dialogue is a bit more defined than the 62 with the bigger driver ofc.
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Ok so I think I will put the order in for the RC64ii, thanks once again...

I think that will complete my system for a while ( any upgrades from here and my wife will kill me )

I would love RF7ii but they wont fit at the front of my room

All I have to do now is wait for the Yammy to be released and the NAD to arrive.

Cheers
The RF-7IIs are only really taller than RF-82IIs. They don't take up any additional floor space so they'll likely fit.

Also, I'm surprised that you're using surround (non-direct radiating speakers) for your heights when all of your others, including your traditional surrounds, are direct-radiating. Did you consider RB-62IIs or RB-82IIs instead of RS-62IIs for your heights?
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post
Good afternoon,

Been a while without internet and many, many, many pages read I can finally ask my Question.

Finally decided on amps

NAD T977 PRO
YAMAHA RXA-3040 or RXV3077

11.2 processing finally ready and so looking forward to ATMOS

Question is though,

I have

FL - RF82ii
FR - RF82ii
C - RC62ii
FL HEIGHT - RS62ii
FR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SL - RF82ii
SR - RF82ii
SBL - RF82ii
SBR - RF82ii
SBL HEIGHT - RS62ii
SBR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SW1 - SW115
SW2 - SW115

would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?

thanks in advance.

Lol at that setup and worrying about overkill

And +1 to Schwa's point - why did you decide on the rs for your heights?
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The RF-7IIs are only really taller than RF-82IIs. They don't take up any additional floor space so they'll likely fit.

Also, I'm surprised that you're using surround (non-direct radiating speakers) for your heights when all of your others, including your traditional surrounds, are direct-radiating. Did you consider RB-62IIs or RB-82IIs instead of RS-62IIs for your heights?
They're also over 2 inches wider. When space is tight, 2 inches makes a difference.
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They're also over 2 inches wider. When space is tight, 2 inches makes a difference.
I guess, but if a mere two inches makes the difference between RF-82IIs fitting and RF-7IIs not fitting, then one might argue that the RF-82IIs weren't the best choice either.
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I guess, but if a mere two inches makes the difference between RF-82IIs fitting and RF-7IIs not fitting, then one might argue that the RF-82IIs weren't the best choice either.
Maybe you're right. I'm speaking from experience here. I was between the 62 and 82 and went with the bigger speakers. I don't regret it, but from certain angles parts of the screen is blocked. If I had a wider wall it would likely sound better too since I could put them out and angle them in. But still, I can fit the 82 but there is no way I could fit the rf-7s.
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The RF-7IIs are only really taller than RF-82IIs. They don't take up any additional floor space so they'll likely fit.

Also, I'm surprised that you're using surround (non-direct radiating speakers) for your heights when all of your others, including your traditional surrounds, are direct-radiating. Did you consider RB-62IIs or RB-82IIs instead of RS-62IIs for your heights?
Speaking of surround and direct speakers.... The schematics that I have seen for speaker placement have been laid out assuming direct radiating speakers. I am wondering about rear speaker placement in a 5.1 system using non-direct radiating speakers, i.e. rs 62 iis. There must be some difference in rear speaker placement if one is using non-direct versus direct speakers. Thanks for reading this!
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Good afternoon,
Been a while without internet and many, many, many pages read I can finally ask my Question.
Finally decided on amps
NAD T977 PRO
YAMAHA RXA-3040 or RXV3077
11.2 processing finally ready and so looking forward to ATMOS
Question is though,
I have
FL - RF82ii
FR - RF82ii
C - RC62ii
FL HEIGHT - RS62ii
FR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SL - RF82ii
SR - RF82ii
SBL - RF82ii
SBR - RF82ii
SBL HEIGHT - RS62ii
SBR HEIGHT - RS62ii
SW1 - SW115
SW2 - SW115
would upgrading the RC62 to a RC64 be overkill as I dont want to disrupt the sound but everyone keeps telling me a centre makes or breaks a system ?
thanks in advance.
RC-64II ! it won't be overkill and sound more real and less boxy and give a nice wider center sound on a yamaha amp then the RC-62II.
if you want atmos you need a A3040 which gets a firmware update in fall to do atmos 9.1.2 with external amp
any reason why u choose a NAD T977 PRO 7-channel amp ? the A3040 with an external 2 channel amp has enough power to drive all speakers.
I'm going atmos too and i wanted to get a A3040 together with an Advance Acoustic X-A160 http://www.advance-acoustic.com/en/p...l/id/112/sec/1 to amp the fronts and so i can use all 11 channels.
as pointed out.. why the choice for the RS when the rest of ur setup is direct radiating speakers ? the wide radiating RS would do not much good for the heights and atmos sound.
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No, I don't. I bought mine already built. You can find pictures of the kits being built. I have no idea how critical the angles are.
This might be a start?
http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...ld-thread.html
thanx ! i'll have a look at it. so far from what i can tell from the plots they made this dts-10 goes lower but has less output and worse plots then a pc13ultra.. i hoped for something better to be honest.
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Speaking of surround and direct speakers.... The schematics that I have seen for speaker placement have been laid out assuming direct radiating speakers. I am wondering about rear speaker placement in a 5.1 system using non-direct radiating speakers, i.e. rs 62 iis. There must be some difference in rear speaker placement if one is using non-direct versus direct speakers. Thanks for reading this!
in a 5.1 system they called "sides". as these rs speakers are wide-radiating they widen the soundfield in a reasonable big room and do pretty well. placement is the same as direct radiating. for 7.1 "rears" that are behind the mlp they are not that advisable since these have to be closer to eachother and add to the surroudfield from the sides. so if ur room is square and big it would do but is not advisable nevertheless and if ur room is rectangle it won't work that good as ther placing needs to be right behind the mlp and have a less sounding spot in the middle of the rs so it won't add that much to the soundfield from the sides than a direct radiating would do. for atnos heights (or dts/dolby/yammie heights system) the rs would be a bad choice as they have to be close to the corners and thus reflect the sound to the side walls and towards the middle and as such going to destroy the positional soundfield from atmos etc.
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First let me tell you what amazing set up do you have!!!!
I do have RC-62II and works great with RF-82II's . I just adjust little dialog volume when is more action parts of movies I can't hear it befor the way I want now is amazing. I will get first amp, receiver and then if you will play with your sytem and have a feeling center needs to be better then I will step up for RC-64II.
Thanks bud,

It has taken time to get it to where it is, I have the NAD on order now and sooo keen to recieve the Yammy . Centre should be here i two weeks.

Looking forward to it
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First off very nice system you have there! Six RF82II's? SWEET!! Is it possible you could fit a RF82II for a center speaker? Heck you got six now what's one more . If you can't fit an 82 for a center then yes I would get the 64. The dialogue is a bit more defined than the 62 with the bigger driver ofc.
Sadly the RF82ii wont fit as a centre

Thankyou very much for the help about the 64. I think I will be done after that and the PRE/PRO
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The RF-7IIs are only really taller than RF-82IIs. They don't take up any additional floor space so they'll likely fit.

Also, I'm surprised that you're using surround (non-direct radiating speakers) for your heights when all of your others, including your traditional surrounds, are direct-radiating. Did you consider RB-62IIs or RB-82IIs instead of RS-62IIs for your heights?
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Lol at that setup and worrying about overkill

And +1 to Schwa's point - why did you decide on the rs for your heights?
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Speaking of surround and direct speakers.... The schematics that I have seen for speaker placement have been laid out assuming direct radiating speakers. I am wondering about rear speaker placement in a 5.1 system using non-direct radiating speakers, i.e. rs 62 iis. There must be some difference in rear speaker placement if one is using non-direct versus direct speakers. Thanks for reading this!
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RC-64II ! it won't be overkill and sound more real and less boxy and give a nice wider center sound on a yamaha amp then the RC-62II.
if you want atmos you need a A3040 which gets a firmware update in fall to do atmos 9.1.2 with external amp
any reason why u choose a NAD T977 PRO 7-channel amp ? the A3040 with an external 2 channel amp has enough power to drive all speakers.
I'm going atmos too and i wanted to get a A3040 together with an Advance Acoustic X-A160 http://www.advance-acoustic.com/en/p...l/id/112/sec/1 to amp the fronts and so i can use all 11 channels.
as pointed out.. why the choice for the RS when the rest of ur setup is direct radiating speakers ? the wide radiating RS would do not much good for the heights and atmos sound.
I guess I like the whole sound from above without being able to pin point the exact position and give the greater feel.

I had a RB61ii and sold them to get the RS62ii I dont really know why but I kinda like the sound of di-polar speakers.

In the room I have the RS62ii I was goin to hope it filled the roof

The reason I went the T977 was the power of the RF82ii and RC64ii and the yammy could do the 4 Heights ( yammy by reputation have a tendency to over state the power ) to give them abit more head rtoom as I use them for movies alot and music in stereo .

I also though about Bi-amping the centre and 2 fronts if that wouls work and use the yammy to run, S, SB, H's if I would benifit

Cheers
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Well I've never heard the 82's but I can't imagine them being that much of a step up from the 62's. Yes the 7's are huge in size and sound. They are that much better. My room is 19 x 13 so not very big. I have no intentions on upgrading and I smell a sign of relief after getting the 7's.
Congrats CC! You finally made it to the promise land. I would love to get there eventually... Will wait and see what Klipsch has coming the near future and hope that opens the door for a nice pair of 7's on the market.
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Congrats CC! You finally made it to the promise land. I would love to get there eventually... Will wait and see what Klipsch has coming the near future and hope that opens the door for a nice pair of 7's on the market.
Thank you!! Promised land lol!
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Hey guys, I'm hoping you can help me out here...

I'm about to move into a new house and I'm building a small theater. Right now I have some junky 5.1 Onkyo stuff I bought 5 years ago and am going to upgrade soon. I've been looking at the Infinity Primus stuff because the price is always so low, but I saw this on CL today and hoped you could help me.

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/4549157179.html

Obviously these are much higher quality than the IP stuff, but I noticed that these are the older models (Not II) so I don't know how they stack up for that price?

Thanks guys!
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IF & ONLY IF, his statement of $3400 MSRP is Accurate, I'd not offer more than $1200...
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IF & ONLY IF, his statement of $3400 MSRP is Accurate, I'd not offer more than $1200...
Thanks for the quick reply.

I doubt he'd want to go that low with them, he said it was flexible. Reading this thread:

Definitive Technology SuperCube I

Makes me think that I could do better for a Subwoofer as well.

Just curious, why that particular number? These are all the older models so it's hard to even price them out properly.
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Thanks for the quick reply.

I doubt he'd want to go that low with them, he said it was flexible. Reading this thread:

Definitive Technology SuperCube I

Makes me think that I could do better for a Subwoofer as well.

Just curious, why that particular number? These are all the older models so it's hard to even price them out properly.
I even don't think he spend that much for those when they was new ( but maybe yes if he pay full MSRP price). He probably count MSRP prices for all add tax ,shipping.
In those days you can get second generation same set brand new around $1950 without sub, maybe even less when you buy whole in one time from one Klipsch dealer. $2000 is a lot for it, like SanchoPanza said around $1200 maybe.
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I even don't think he spend that much for those when they was new ( but maybe yes if he pay full MSRP price). He probably count MSRP prices for all add tax ,shipping.
In those days you can get second generation same set brand new around $1950 without sub, maybe even less when you buy whole in one time from one Klipsch dealer. $2000 is a lot for it, like SanchoPanza said around $1200 maybe.
Gotcha. Thanks for the help. I think I will pass on this set up!

I'm now curious about going with Klipsch for my set up, I like the look of them and they aren't so crazy expensive that I can't pull it. I was planning on spending around $1500-$1750 on my set up (I already have receiver)...would that be doable for new stuff?
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