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How are the 7's working out for you CC? Silly question?

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How are the 7's working out for you CC? Silly question?
Oh the 7's are working out just fine. Amazing speakers and am saving up to give them some more power to get them to open up more at reference volume. Very happy with them. When I first saw them at Ryan's house I was blown away at how big they were but after having them for a month they don't seem so big now.

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I took all of mine off and replaced them with these. You could make your own or check with Klipsch parts.
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Whoa I have been eyeing those same jumpers. I think I will pull the trigger on them soon. They look very high end and of good quality.

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Whoa I have been eyeing those same jumpers. I think I will pull the trigger on them soon. They look very high end and of good quality.
I need to ask because I just don't know what those are for? We have on klipsch that little brass plate correct so those are just better then original Klipsch plates?

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I need to ask because I just don't know what those are for? We have on klipsch that little brass plate correct so those are just better then original Klipsch plates?
Well it's subjective if they are better but yes they replaced the flat jumper plates. 4 to a pack with a fair price and they appear very well built.

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Oh the 7's are working out just fine. Amazing speakers and am saving up to give them some more power to get them to open up more at reference volume. Very happy with them. When I first saw them at Ryan's house I was blown away at how big they were but after having them for a month they don't seem so big now.
Nice, the longer you have them the more they tend to fade into the decor.

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Well it's subjective if they are better but yes they replaced the flat jumper plates. 4 to a pack with a fair price and they appear very well built.
Oh yes no question about that, they looks amazing. So did you replace them on every single speaker in your system?
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So did you replace them on every single speaker in your system?
Just the towers and center. The older (RB75s) ones used a nice pair of factory jumper cables.

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Do you guys like the direction that Klipsch is going in? Apparently the goal is to just have all of their speakers fall under the "Reference" line....with the exception of Heritage of course. Do you all think that's a good idea? Personally I don't. I felt like having the Icon/Synergy line and "more exclusive" Reference line helped people fin what they were looking for based on their price range...but now with everything being called Reference I think that may lead to more confusion...Just like this new Reference line that they just added....They look cheaper than the regular Reference but the misinformed may think that they are all the same....I feel like it would have been better to keep the Copper woofers and Reference name exclusive to their more expensive offerings. What are you guys opinions?

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Yeah I have the same question, I have a C-20 paired with two f-30s and it just doesn't have enough kick. Then of course you get into a timbre match problem I think.
I had an rc62ii between f30s for a while. Sounded great!
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Okay I just found a(looking for KC-25) RC-25 center speaker for cheap but I already own a C-3 but to me it doesn't have enough kick to go with my F-30....Would the RC-25 be a upgrade over the C-2 ?...Thanks
Regardless what anyone says, f30s are awesome speakers. I had them and rf82iis, they are more similar than different. In saying that, they are the only speakers in the synergy line I would ever consider, the centers wont keep up.
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Do you guys like the direction that Klipsch is going in? Apparently the goal is to just have all of their speakers fall under the "Reference" line....with the exception of Heritage of course. Do you all think that's a good idea? Personally I don't. I felt like having the Icon/Synergy line and "more exclusive" Reference line helped people fin what they were looking for based on their price range...but now with everything being called Reference I think that may lead to more confusion...Just like this new Reference line that they just added....They look cheaper than the regular Reference but the misinformed may think that they are all the same....I feel like it would have been better to keep the Copper woofers and Reference name exclusive to their more expensive offerings. What are you guys opinions?

I'll give you my opinion which is from a unique perspective. Klipsch is doing the same thing as PSB. They used to have the Image, Imagine, and Syncrony lines. Now it'll just be the Imagine I II and III (or something like that.) This really helps out the customer keep track of everything. Usually the price tag does 90% of the quality explaining. Since PSB doesn't sell in the big boxes it's less complicated though. I wish Klipsch would copy that model, but I'm biased I guess.


The fact that Reference I (former Synergy/Icon) have copper horns means that to a casual eye they look more similar, but before this reset I lost count of casual folks who just thought the Reference II was a dressed up Synergy. Go ahead and throw up now, but it's true. Now that they look similar, the idea now is that the casual customer will (hopefully) understand that the higher price is refelected by quality inside the speaker- we aren't just selling window dressing.


Frankly I don't mind the copper horns on the Reference I, and I think it'll be beneficial in the long run. Customers who get the Reference I might have more ownership pride and upgrade to the Reference II. Anything that keeps the ignorant, but otherwise good folks away from soundbars is a win in my book.


On an aside, and this is 6 month old information, but there's going to be a new line above the Reference II, but since then I heard it's not EXACTLY how it's going to work. This new insight strains the imagination, so stayed tuned.
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It looks they painted the icon woofers, thats it. I can't see how these would sound a whole lot different from the Synergy/Icon lines.
This is what Klipsch commented on facebook:

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All new Reference Linear Travel Suspension tweeter design for smoother, more powerful high frequencies. All new mechanical woofer design with seamless dustcap for minimized mid frequency diffraction and distortion. All new Spun Copper IMG woofer cone is incredibly rigid, with new design adding structural integrity for minimal cone break up at high excursion levels. This makes for even cleaner, more accurate low frequency reproduction. All new Brushed Polymer Veneer finish is exceptionally durable with a much more contemporary aesthetic over the previous wood grain vinyl of the Icon series.
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[QUOTE=Tasdom;26120538]Just the towers and center. The older (RB75s) ones used a nice pair of factory jumper cables.

Thanks I did not know older klipsch have those from factory,thanks for picture.

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I found a pair of Rb-61 IV for 150-200$ and a Rc-62 all for $300. The books shelves are missing the grills. I was thinking of that book shelf to replace my front high SB-2's. You think the Rc-62 is any better than my rc-3? or are they the same speaker more or less?
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Regardless what anyone says, f30s are awesome speakers. I had them and rf82iis, they are more similar than different. In saying that, they are the only speakers in the synergy line I would ever consider, the centers wont keep up.
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I had an rc62ii between f30s for a while. Sounded great!
I tried a KC-25 between a pair of KF-28's and it sounded terrible...very hollow. I returned and upgraded to an RC-52 ii and have been very happy...still wonder if I should've gone with the RC-62 ii, but in my smaller living room the RC-52 ii keeps up just fine, and sounds a lot better matched with the KF-28's than the KEF center I was using before.
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I tried a KC-25 between a pair of KF-28's and it sounded terrible...very hollow. I returned and upgraded to an RC-52 ii and have been very happy...still wonder if I should've gone with the RC-62 ii, but in my smaller living room the RC-52 ii keeps up just fine, and sounds a lot better matched with the KF-28's than the KEF center I was using before.
If your MLP is lower then 10feet RS-52II's and RS-62II's doing very similar job hard to tell different!!!!
If your room is huge and surrounds are fair away then RS-62II's is way to go.
Many Klipsch dealer experts said that when I was looking for those.

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Do you guys like the direction that Klipsch is going in? Apparently the goal is to just have all of their speakers fall under the "Reference" line....with the exception of Heritage of course. Do you all think that's a good idea? Personally I don't. I felt like having the Icon/Synergy line and "more exclusive" Reference line helped people fin what they were looking for based on their price range...but now with everything being called Reference I think that may lead to more confusion...Just like this new Reference line that they just added....They look cheaper than the regular Reference but the misinformed may think that they are all the same....I feel like it would have been better to keep the Copper woofers and Reference name exclusive to their more expensive offerings. What are you guys opinions?
The reference line is the most popular line they have. So they must think this will make more money putting the gold/copper on everything. I personally think it will water down the line too much.

I think they will sell more lower level speakers with this. But I also think they will sell less higher level ones (like the rf82ii). Looks matter and was part of the draw of the reference line. People upgraded from the lower levels and got a whole new looking speaker. So now upgrading from a lower reference to a higher one ends up with a similar looking speaker.
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The reference line is the most popular line they have. So they must think this will make more money putting the gold/copper on everything. I personally think it will water down the line too much.

I think they will sell more lower level speakers with this. But I also think they will sell less higher level ones (like the rf82ii). Looks matter and was part of the draw of the reference line. People upgraded from the lower levels and got a whole new looking speaker. So now upgrading from a lower reference to a higher one ends up with a similar looking speaker.
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Klipsch now has a "reference" sound bar.

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...speaker-series

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Do you guys like the direction that Klipsch is going in? Apparently the goal is to just have all of their speakers fall under the "Reference" line....with the exception of Heritage of course. Do you all think that's a good idea? Personally I don't. I felt like having the Icon/Synergy line and "more exclusive" Reference line helped people fin what they were looking for based on their price range...but now with everything being called Reference I think that may lead to more confusion...Just like this new Reference line that they just added....They look cheaper than the regular Reference but the misinformed may think that they are all the same....I feel like it would have been better to keep the Copper woofers and Reference name exclusive to their more expensive offerings. What are you guys opinions?
I posted the below on another forum.
IMO,
I really think it's a marketing strategy. Upon looking at the spec's the ICON KF-28 and the New Reference R-28F appear to have really close spec's and priced about the same. The ICON is a bit taller and weighs a tad bit more per (Best Buy Website)
My way of thinking all they have done is changed the woofer color and maybe the cabinet finish. (LOL)
I would like to hear of somebody doing a blind test .
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Klipsch now has a "reference" sound bar.

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...speaker-series
What happened here is just better name for sound bar , don't worry it still can't keep up with your staff
When I come from Synergy line to Reference line I love name Reference sounds so special so but not any more now looks like we will have just many steps up in Reference line I,II,III maybe even four who knows, doesn't sound that good any more.

But is is just name longest they make those amazing speakers I forgive them this change

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Hi guys. Just thought I would share, a pair of heresy has come up here on trademe(New Zealand's ebay) $950NZ. 1 it seems a bit much and 2 I was hoping for something bigger. Probably will stay away, thoughts?
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Hi guys. Just thought I would share, a pair of heresy has come up here on trademe(New Zealand's ebay) $950NZ. 1 it seems a bit much and 2 I was hoping for something bigger. Probably will stay away, thoughts?
Are you looking to build a Heritage system now? That seems high if it were in the USA but not sure if that's a good deal for NZ. I know prices there are a bit steeper. Save your money and get the RF7II's. You think your 82II's rock ha just wait till you hear the 7II's.
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Are you looking to build a Heritage system now? That seems high if it were in the USA but not sure if that's a good deal for NZ. I know prices there are a bit steeper. Save your money and get the RF7II's. You think your 82II's rock ha just wait till you hear the 7II's.
Just a little bit jealous... yea I really want rf7iis, but if some lascalas or fortes etc came up I would probably just get them solely because they dont exist here. But heresy probably too small for my liking.
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Just a little bit jealous... yea I really want rf7iis, but if some lascalas or fortes etc came up I would probably just get them solely because they dont exist here. But heresy probably too small for my liking.
After reading your posts for quite some time now I'd have to say yea the Heresys aren't gonna do it for ya. I know you like it LOUD!!

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What do you guys recommend setting the crossover at in the AVR for the RF-7iis, RC-64ii, and RB-61iis? Put them all at 80 and forget about it?

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What do you guys recommend setting the crossover at in the AVR for the RF-7iis, RC-64ii, and RB-61iis? Put them all at 80 and forget about it?
80 in back/center but you may want to try 60 in front. Just try both 60 and 80 up front and decide which you prefer. It's different which each system and sub.

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What do you guys recommend setting the crossover at in the AVR for the RF-7iis, RC-64ii, and RB-61iis? Put them all at 80 and forget about it?
I cross my fronts at 60. Center and surrounds are crossed at 80.

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What do you guys recommend setting the crossover at in the AVR for the RF-7iis, RC-64ii, and RB-61iis? Put them all at 80 and forget about it?

See what sounds the best between 40 or 60 for the RF 7IIs and RC 64II. 80 is too high for that set in my opinion unless you just have a low power AVR. 80 for the surrounds


Sometimes 80 is directional out of the sub, and that's the case with my RF 62 IIs. I run them at 60, so I think the RF 7 IIs would be fine

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