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Congratulations Terry! I'm glad you found the 64 to be well worth the money. It truly is a beast of a center and matches perfectly with the 7's.
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I picked up a pair of the new R-15M bookshelf speakers last week. They're pretty damn amazing for the cost. I'm using a PS3 into a Schiit Bifrost Uber DAC, then Schiit Asgard 2 headphone amp/preamp, then an Emotiva mini-X a-100. I have a Martin Logan MLT-1 subwoofer (10", front firing, mediocre at best). I can hear a little bit of harshness once in a while, but it might be the speakers and amp continuing to break in. Other than that, everything sounds pretty perfect and is approaching the quality of my Audeze LCD-2 headphones, except the imaging and soundstage of my headphones is in another league entirely.

I wasn't expecting much from these speakers. I purchased them just to hold me over until I can afford a proper 5.1 setup. I'm finding that I'm really enjoying these speakers a lot more than I had expected. They image far better than I was imagining and the sound is rich and powerful. My room measures about 15 x 25 feet and these speakers get so loud in there I can't imagine needing anything much larger, but would you all expect a marked increase in performance if I stepped up to one of the floorstanding models?

Lastly, can anyone give a good breakdown of the sonic differences between the new entry level reference speakers and the Reference II line?
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Thanks Zen! And H-U-G-E thanks to you and forum members Schwa, cchunter, SanchoPanza, Tasdom, and others for all your forum- and PM-based help, advice, and discussion over these past months. You guys are an invaluable asset to the audio community!

Congrats and you're welcome. Don't know what I did but glad you're happy. Nice post btw

Edit: Ok, I forgot about the pm's ........ Enjoy!
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Congrats on the RC-64, it is Great with a RF-7 or other Klipsch tower with Ti diaphragms for HT Bluray. Seventy Years was that a typo?
Off topic but happy belated birthday Louis!
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I picked up a pair of the new R-15M bookshelf speakers last week. They're pretty damn amazing for the cost. I'm using a PS3 into a Schiit Bifrost Uber DAC, then Schiit Asgard 2 headphone amp/preamp, then an Emotiva mini-X a-100. I have a Martin Logan MLT-1 subwoofer (10", front firing, mediocre at best). I can hear a little bit of harshness once in a while, but it might be the speakers and amp continuing to break in. Other than that, everything sounds pretty perfect and is approaching the quality of my Audeze LCD-2 headphones, except the imaging and soundstage of my headphones is in another league entirely.

I wasn't expecting much from these speakers. I purchased them just to hold me over until I can afford a proper 5.1 setup. I'm finding that I'm really enjoying these speakers a lot more than I had expected. They image far better than I was imagining and the sound is rich and powerful. My room measures about 15 x 25 feet and these speakers get so loud in there I can't imagine needing anything much larger, but would you all expect a marked increase in performance if I stepped up to one of the floorstanding models?

Lastly, can anyone give a good breakdown of the sonic differences between the new entry level reference speakers and the Reference II line?
I have the same mini X amp connected to my Oppo and a pair of Belles. I had a little bit of brightness as well but after finding a good balance between the x100's volume control (turning it down) and the Oppos volume control, they smoothed out quite nicely...ymmv

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Off topic but happy belated birthday Louis!
Thanks I made it to 64 and I can still hear my tweeters. How did you know it was my Birthday??

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Thanks I made it to 64 and I can still hear my tweeters. How did you know it was my Birthday??
happy birthday louis ,i hope you have an awsome year birthday boy
.lots of health,fortune and more klipsch
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Thanks I made it to 64 and I can still hear my tweeters. How did you know it was my Birthday??

Tweeters ??? Heck, If I make it to 64 I hope my pec....Oh never mind--Happy Birthday Mr Bartay!
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Tweeters ??? Heck, If I make it to 64 I hope my pec....Oh never mind--Happy Birthday Mr Bartay!
lmao pec
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Hi, I'm installing new speakers in my new house and would like to get a feedback if anyone here has used the Klipsch Gallery Series. I'm thinking of using G16s for LCR and G12s for the back left and right. It will be hooked to a 6-year old Onkyo receiver and a klipsch subwoofer as well. I couldn't find any store in my area that could demo these speakers so I'm asking feedback from you guys. Most stores here just sell martin logan, b&w, Bose, Samsung etc. I've had the in-wall klipsch speakers in my old house and very happy with it.
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Tweeters ??? Heck, If I make it to 64 I hope my pec....Oh never mind--Happy Birthday Mr Bartay!
LMAO...... I don't need viagra .......yet my late dad (Louis Jr.) a Klipsch audiophile was 90 when he passed and I asked him on his 80th birthday how was he when he started to use viagra...........he said "BOY" ( I was 50) you needed to ask someone older then him.
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Hi, I'm installing new speakers in my new house and would like to get a feedback if anyone here has used the Klipsch Gallery Series. I'm thinking of using G16s for LCR and G12s for the back left and right. It will be hooked to a 6-year old Onkyo receiver and a klipsch subwoofer as well. I couldn't find any store in my area that could demo these speakers so I'm asking feedback from you guys. Most stores here just sell martin logan, b&w, Bose, Samsung etc. I've had the in-wall klipsch speakers in my old house and very happy with it.
I am running a G-42 for my LCR , mounted under my TV on an articulating arm mount, and two G--16s for my Surrounds with a BIC Acoustech PL-200 sub in my bedroom and I am loving it. Do you have a space saving need? The Gallery's are a bit over priced and you can get way more speaker for the same cost if you don't have a need for flat speakers. I needed speakers as flat as possible without being in-wall. I also considered Axiom M3 s for my surrounds but I love Klipsch. Over all I am very happy with my purchases.

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Thanks I made it to 64 and I can still hear my tweeters. How did you know it was my Birthday??
It was posted on the Klipsch forum home page a few days ago......
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Real men don't use viagra, they just get bigger horns!

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Real men don't use viagra, they just get bigger horns!
Are you saying horns cause erectile functionality?
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Well I got my RS-41s in but I got called in to work. I look forward to trying them out at home. I'm going to listen to 2 scenes with my polks, and then again with the Klipsch. TRON Legacy with the computer woman voice talking to Sam and then Gravity intro where the helmet chatter is heard from the right surround.

That will be a good test because one is supposed to sound spacial and not locatable and the other is supposed to sound like it's coming into your right ear.

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I am running a G-42 for my LCR , mounted under my TV on an articulating arm mount, and two G--16s for my Surrounds with a BIC Acoustech PL-200 sub in my bedroom and I am loving it. Do you have a space saving need? The Gallery's are a bit over priced and you can get way more speaker for the same cost if you don't have a need for flat speakers. I needed speakers as flat as possible without being in-wall. I also considered Axiom M3 s for my surrounds but I love Klipsch. Over all I am very happy with my purchases.
Hi, thanks for providing your feedback! The room that I need to fill in is 19x19x22
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Congrats on the RC-64, it is great with an RF-7 or other Klipsch tower with Ti diaphragms for HT & Blu-ray.

Seventy Years; was that a typo?
Thanks, Louis... not a typo! I turned seventy the first week in August... and got my first listen to the RC-64 II on my birthday!

Happy Birthday to both of us!!
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Thanks, Louis... not a typo! I turned seventy the first week in August... and got my first listen to the RC-64 II on my birthday!

Happy Birthday to both of us!!
Thanks

Nice Birthday present.............. congrats.......the RC-64 is a awesome center speaker.

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Report on the RS-41. So far, I like the clarity but it's not really providing any more "ambiance" than I heard from the polk. The clarity from being a klipsch horn is very nice. But I don't feel the soundtrack is "surrounding" me any more than the polk did. I think I'll try the RB-51s. I wanna see what those sound like compared to the RS-41s. Frys has them and they have free return policy.

After hearing the clarity I know for sure I want to switch to klipsch. Now I need to find out if it's gonna be the RS-41s or RB-51s. I'm thinking the bookshelf since the reason I got the RS is for ambiance, and they don't really seem to provide much. I might like the fuller sound of the 5.25 woofers. We'll see soon. I'll report back! Thanks for all the suggestions.

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Tweeters ??? Heck, If I make it to 64 I hope my pec... Oh never mind
This is completely off topic, of course; nonetheless....

I "get" the attempts at inner-circle humor, but... why is it that you guys find it appropriate to propagate the myth that anyone over 60 is "old", "decrepit", and barely able to function?

I just turned seventy, and I can ride my mountain-bike up a three-mile paved road with an 800-foot elevation-gain, without putting a foot down... and that just gets me to the starting-point of my off-road "training-ride". And if you've read very many of my posts, it should be fairly obvious that I'm still more than capable of fairly-complicated but completely-coherent (and grammatically correct) discourse.

But I'm no different than any other reasonably cerebrally- and physically-active "elder" out there... so what's the deal? I mean no disrespect... but surely the theoretically-more-mature ones of you have figured out by now that there really is more to life-after-forty than expensive electronic gizmos and inane online banter... haven't you?

So... why persist in encouraging the youth who look to you for guidance to think that any example that you attempt to set for them after you're more than forty is laughably obsolete?

Lately, there's been a lot of concern expressed about the possibility that the upcoming new releases by Klipsch will be "shoddy", in comparison with the older lines. Perhaps that trend aligns with the modern world's generically apathetic acceptance of shoddiness of thought, in general.

Again... why persist -- by example -- in encouraging that acceptance?
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This is completely off topic, of course; nonetheless....

I "get" the attempts at inner-circle humor, but... why is it that you guys find it appropriate to propagate the myth that anyone over 60 is "old", "decrepit", and barely able to function?...


So... why persist in encouraging the youth who look to you for guidance to think that any example that you attempt to set for them after you're more than forty is laughably obsolete?

Lately, there's been a lot of concern expressed about the possibility that the upcoming new releases by Klipsch will be "shoddy", in comparison with the older lines. Perhaps that trend aligns with the modern world's generically apathetic acceptance of shoddiness of thought, in general.

Again... why persist -- by example -- in encouraging that acceptance?

Sorry B, it seems I struck a nerve...My attempt at humor was just that. I also don't feel "the youth" think getting old is bad especially compared to how the Hippy Generation viewed age a half century ago. As you mentioned, several of us on the forum are good examples of how cool it is to get/be over 40, 50, 60 and now your excitement turning 70 is giving more credence to that natural fact...That said, there are "old people," who perpetuate the example you wish to extinguish, just as there are "young people" who don't share the ambition of past generations, but I've found there are others who excel at Life 101 and I work with them every day.

I agree this is OT but wanted to give a sincere (and only) rebuttal...This is also the internet and my concern with folks who grew up only knowing an Internet time is. My concern is that they rely on other peoples opinion instead of just using it as a tool...Iow, there are some of us with experiences who like to share their opinion, anecdotes and use the internet to provide informative links in a scientific way, given this is the Audio Visual Science Forum.

Insofar as the Klipsch company in general, that is a whole 'nother can of worms...Suffice it to say, I thought Paul Klipsch was a genius and he had good people working for him in Hope, Arkansas....I will only say at this point that Klipsch still appears to makes good speakers at various price points, from what I can glean on the internet--Fwiw, the reason I am not as excited about them as a company is what I've learned from the trajectory from small, family- owned company, to part of a corporate conglomerate...Again, it may not be a bad thing but it definitely isn't the same company/family vibe. One just need to go to their Forum and see what I mean...When I started there over 14 years ago there were all sorts of Employees and Engineers posting and now they are no where to be found.

The dynamic that I found interesting, but also disturbing was that last years annual Klipsch Pilgrimage was canceled due to not enough folks wanting to go...To add insult to injury people on this thread thought it appropriate to make fun of opinions gleaned from talking to engineers at those events and ironically the "LIKE" button made instant internet experts on Klipsch speakers.

The last thing I will say on this subject is that there ARE some very good people posting on this Thread and the Klipsch Forum and I don't mean to disparage anyone--Just giving my 2 cents having been around online, onsite and visiting a ton of Home Theater setups along the way.
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Report on the RS-41. So far, I like the clarity but it's not really providing any more "ambiance" than I heard from the polk. The clarity from being a klipsch horn is very nice. But I don't feel the soundtrack is "surrounding" me any more than the polk did. I think I'll try the RB-51s. I wanna see what those sound like compared to the RS-41s. Frys has them and they have free return policy.

After hearing the clarity I know for sure I want to switch to klipsch. Now I need to find out if it's gonna be the RS-41s or RB-51s. I'm thinking the bookshelf since the reason I got the RS is for ambiance, and they don't really seem to provide much. I might like the fuller sound of the 5.25 woofers. We'll see soon. I'll report back! Thanks for all the suggestions.

The RS 42 II is better in all respects to the RS 41 II. You should give the RS 42 II a chance and you'll get everything you're talking about; ambiance, and full sound.
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Report on the RS-41. So far, I like the clarity but it's not really providing any more "ambiance" than I heard from the polk. The clarity from being a klipsch horn is very nice. But I don't feel the soundtrack is "surrounding" me any more than the polk did. I think I'll try the RB-51s. I wanna see what those sound like compared to the RS-41s. Frys has them and they have free return policy.

After hearing the clarity I know for sure I want to switch to klipsch. Now I need to find out if it's gonna be the RS-41s or RB-51s. I'm thinking the bookshelf since the reason I got the RS is for ambiance, and they don't really seem to provide much. I might like the fuller sound of the 5.25 woofers. We'll see soon. I'll report back! Thanks for all the suggestions.
Being able to pick them up and try them locally is definitely a good idea and used to be how it was done.

Insofar as the difference between the RB series and the RS series--The latter actually was designed to spray the sound around to create more ambiance in the pre-Dolby Digital age, where most people had various LPs (listening positions) but only one set of surround speakers--They are still effective in that scenario today as well.

That said, if you have a limited MLP the direct firing bookshelf speakers (RB-line) may work better...Then again it may be a lateral move for either speaker, and even compared with your polks.

For the record, after going to 7.1 in my HT (granted, you may/appear to sit to close to the rear wall for this to be doable) I greatly appreciate turning 5.1 material into "7.1" using direct firing speakers, but in a 5.1 configuration YMMV. As I posted before, in our gym and bedroom we have 5.1 setups with varying LPs and the RS speakers work well in those scenarios, both with music and moves.

As a side note, the clarity you mention usually is associated with the horn and not the LF drivers, but of course they must mate well to achieve the goal. {Note: I like having larger speakers as surrounds and would research (or experiment) the difference in your home, using them compared to the models you are looking at.} Good Luck.
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Report on the RS-41. So far, I like the clarity but it's not really providing any more "ambiance" than I heard from the polk. The clarity from being a klipsch horn is very nice. But I don't feel the soundtrack is "surrounding" me any more than the polk did. I think I'll try the RB-51s. I wanna see what those sound like compared to the RS-41s. Frys has them and they have free return policy.

After hearing the clarity I know for sure I want to switch to klipsch. Now I need to find out if it's gonna be the RS-41s or RB-51s. I'm thinking the bookshelf since the reason I got the RS is for ambiance, and they don't really seem to provide much. I might like the fuller sound of the 5.25 woofers. We'll see soon. I'll report back! Thanks for all the suggestions.
How did you have them mounted? I had mine up high around 7.5 ft from the floor or so, and to the direct sides of the MLP. I thought they provided great surrounding feel as far as that concern.
I think mounting position has alot to do with how these sound. I dont get the same effect from my RS-52's mounted out back and to the sides as I did with my KS-14's mounted to the sides. I know they are there, but its not the same. I just dont have the option to mount my RS-52's to the sides in my current room like I did upstairs.

Its all a tradeoff.

But again, going with the 2 driver and 2 horn version may make the world of difference. Esp if you can mount them directly to the sides and a little high

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This is completely off topic, of course; nonetheless....

I "get" the attempts at inner-circle humor, but... why is it that you guys find it appropriate to propagate the myth that anyone over 60 is "old", "decrepit", and barely able to function?

I just turned seventy, and I can ride my mountain-bike up a three-mile paved road with an 800-foot elevation-gain, without putting a foot down... and that just gets me to the starting-point of my off-road "training-ride". And if you've read very many of my posts, it should be fairly obvious that I'm still more than capable of fairly-complicated but completely-coherent (and grammatically correct) discourse.

But I'm no different than any other reasonably cerebrally- and physically-active "elder" out there... so what's the deal? I mean no disrespect... but surely the theoretically-more-mature ones of you have figured out by now that there really is more to life-after-forty than expensive electronic gizmos and inane online banter... haven't you?

So... why persist in encouraging the youth who look to you for guidance to think that any example that you attempt to set for them after you're more than forty is laughably obsolete?

Lately, there's been a lot of concern expressed about the possibility that the upcoming new releases by Klipsch will be "shoddy", in comparison with the older lines. Perhaps that trend aligns with the modern world's generically apathetic acceptance of shoddiness of thought, in general.

Again... why persist -- by example -- in encouraging that acceptance?
Hear hear Terry!

I don't know what it is about this thread in particular, and although it's improved significantly lately, it still seems like a particularly juvenile and pedantic thread. It's a shame too because these characteristics of the thread tend to paint Klipsch owners in a negative light and serve to really turn off lurkers and potential future Klipsch owners.

Oh well. It has taken a turn for the better, and it is the "interwebs" after all.

Incidentally, where has our resident Dutch medium gone? All kidding aside, I hope everything is okay!
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Sorry B, it seems I struck a nerve...
It's the overall acceptance of sloppy thinking and unintelligible "communication" by society at large, that strikes my nerves.

My over-riding point was that, in the spirit of Zen-like "mindfulness", the reinforcement of negative thinking -- whether done blatantly, or via attempts at seemingly good-intentioned "harmless" humor -- is inherently inappropriate... as is any shoddiness of thought, regardless of its directional path or intended point of focus. Obviously, there's "good" and "bad" in any of us. My point was simply that the practice of mindfulness demands that we remember that everything we do and say sets an example for those who look to us for guidance, regardless of whether or not they even realize that they are doing so.

Similarly, clear-headedness and critical thinking -- along with the ability to clearly and accurately articulate and communicate those thoughts -- are the foundations of the scientific method... which, as you pointed out, is the intended core of this forum. Let's also always strive to keep it that way.
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The RS 42 II is better in all respects to the RS 41 II. You should give the RS 42 II a chance and you'll get everything you're talking about; ambiance, and full sound.
I will. I'll have to try that and if that doesn't give me what I want I will just go with the RB-52. And PM, I can't mount them high because there is a knick knack shelf on the left side so it can only go a foot above ear level. I tried putting it on the shelf and that's 2.5 feet above ear level and I actually like the sound better when it's at ear level any way.

The attempt was to try to diffuse that sound a bit. I'll give the RS-42 a try next. Luckily, fry's has many of these in stock and I don't have to pay to return them like with AVS. I still have the 41s on the way but I'll try them all at Fry's before I decide which one I actually will order from AVS and keep. Thanks for that recommendation!

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Are you saying horns cause erectile functionality?
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It's the overall acceptance of sloppy thinking and unintelligible "communication" by society at large, that strikes my nerves...
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I can dig it, but feel comfortable with my participation in this thread, including the attempt at humor that started this discussion off. I wasn't going to respond again, but since I was quoted felt the need to do so. We can agree ALL of these comments that aren't audio/speaker related are OT, and as my record shows I normally don't engage...That said, my attempt at humor surely isn't destroying the fabric of this nation but I understand your larger point.

I am now out of this discussion and apologize for any OT comments that anyone was offended by.
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