AVS Forum banner
5M views 61K replies 4K participants last post by  drh3b 
#1 ·
Let here from all the Klipsch owners. Likes or dislikes about Klipsch? I update a lot of my equipment in the last few months. I have the RF-83 mains, RC-64 center,RF-82 rears and Infinity SM152 for the back speakers. Veloydne DLS-5000 and a Klipsch KSW-200 for subs. A Sony STR-DA7100ES receiver,Sony 60"SXRD,Sony DVP-NS90V DVD, Sony SLV-676UC VCR,Sony MDP-33 laserdisc,Philips CD770 CD recorder, JVC XV-S65 DVD, JVC TD-W660 cassette, JVC XL-M700 multi cd, JVC AL-F350 turn table, Fisher CAV875 video switcher, JVC HM-DSR100U DVHS dish, Xbox 360, Motorola cable box. My room size is 16x18. Over all I am very happy with the whole system. The Rf-83 turned out to very fine speaker little less in the bass than I would like, but the mid and high are great. The Veloydne fill the gap nicely. I like lot of base in my system. The RC-64 is a kick but center speaker, very large in size but great sound for dialogue. It is the best center I ever heard. The RF-82 are not as refined as the FR-83 but very nice for the price. The DLS-5000 is a bargain for the price you can buy them for. Looks like they range from 600-800 online. Plenty of volume , but it doesn't go as low in frequency as the more expensive subs. In the future I will look at the new Klipsch subs along with SVS,Earthquake, or another Veloydne. Driving all this is the Sony 7100ES that I am totaly happy with. This whole system is incredibly loud.
 
See less See more
1
#25,301 ·
that's why I don't buy Heresy or Cornwall, but look for Heresy II & Cornwall II...


I'd consider Cornwall (not II) before Heresy (not II)...


what am I missing from Cornwall or Heresy (not II) Vs. Cornwall II &/or Heresy II?
 
#25,302 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by SanchoPanza  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23648825


that's why I don't buy Heresy or Cornwall, but look for Heresy II & Cornwall II...


I'd consider Cornwall (not II) before Heresy (not II)...


what am I missing from Cornwall or Heresy (not II) Vs. Cornwall II &/or Heresy II?
Sorry BUT that is a mistake the Hersey I & Cornwall I are the choice models bar none of those speakers , when Klipsch went with the II they devalued the drivers & horns in both models . Yeah the back terminals are small & cheap BUT the drivers are the same as a Khorn , the versions II are not the same drivers .
 
#25,303 ·
Haven't missed any locally; just none for sale. Which is part of why I asked what I did.
 
#25,304 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by jjennings2510  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25230#post_23647084


And its not that I didn't believe you B26354... it's just that with us all having differrent series of speakers I wasn't sure how well it would work for me... I know some tips work better for the KLFs... others for the Cornwalls... others for the 7s etc., so that's why I was asking questions before I went through all of the trouble... you know how it is once we get our systems tweaked. We don't want anyone to mess with it. Not even ourselves! Nonetheless it was all worth it. Thanks again....

Another thanks back at ya, JJ. I wasn't concerned about my own "believability" in this discussion, though. I mean... who the heck am I? It's simply that having read so many posts throughout this thread (and quite a few others) on toe-in, and then having read those articles that I linked (both of which were linked by other posters, long before me)... as you suggest, I finally overcame my own reluctance to mess with my "perfectly tweaked" system, only to be so amazed at how much of an improvement it was, that I had to so adamantly post my findings.


The thanks, for me, go to the article with the simple and very clear diagrams of speaker sound-dispersion crossover patterns, and the different sizes and shapes of the MLP that result from non-toe-in, insufficient toe-in, and what I'll call "proper" toe-in.


That sort of empirical evidence, of course, is what brings validity to the discussions in this Klipsch thread.


Any of us Bozos can voice an opinion. And whether we do so using language and grammar and spelling that make us appear to be highly-educated and informed, well-spoken adults, endowed with integrity and humility, or semi-literate, uninformed, ego-centric pre-teens, endowed with "fake-book" mentality, doesn't matter -- aside from the fact that the latter are profoundly annoying and completely lacking in credibility.


This thread was set up to be science-based. My (or anyone else's) saying that toe-in (or anything else) "works", is just hearsay. The article I linked, on the other hand, acquires its veracity from empirical demonstration.


Extrapolating outward... readers and posters alike; if you come across an idea that sparks your interest, and seems to work... definitely tell us what you think about it!


But also... show us why it works.
 
#25,305 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fastslappy  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23648812


the terminals on the back of older Heritage are a P I A spades/forks work the best . but took the whole old terminals & replaced with them with heavy duty gold parts express terminal studs with the hole & the twist lock when I went with the larger 12 gauge wire

the huge black/red knobs are just so much easier to work with & just easy to see witch is positive better than them old style .

I understand that some like to keep everything stock but I'm over that
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhetor  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23648790


+1 and never looked back . .,.


Best decision for me was selling off and leaving my Reference 7.1 system behind and build an 11.1 true Heritage system . . . Pre-owned and learned how to update crossovers . . . Most bang for the Klipsch buck in HT,is,pre-owned Heritage (I mean the original Heritage series-Klipschorn, Belle, La Scala, Cornwall, Heresey, not the discontinued later Klipsch lines which were later adopted in "Heritage" for marketing reasons).


I had a nice Reference setup up, and sold it. gave me a "do over" opportunity. All real Heritage HT pre-owned and tweaked HT for about the same cost as new RF7s and friends grouping in a 7 channel setup,


Just something for you to consider since you are starting over. . . . A little patiece in locating pre-owned Heritage and learning a little recapping you can have an amazing all Heritage speaker HT.


But, with a cache of cash and no patience, a great RF7II setup or even RF82IIs with center and friends can be a nice setup to greatly enjoyminnyour room.


I,am, myself, very glad, few have patience to shop for pre-owned Heritage big boys, ot to,learn how to recap and tweak them . . . That has left them pretty easy to buy in my market since few people in my area buy pre-owned original Heritage in my area, and thereforemI am able to get amazing buys and have out two amazing HT original Heritage setups in my little log cabin on them lake.


I had a wonderful RF82 matched 7.1 system I bought all new in the summer of 2008. Loved it,for four yrars. Bought a pair of KG2s and recapped. Wow! What an amazing sound! Then bought two sets of KG4sm.,.,. Recapped. Wower!


Found out about the Klipsch original Klipsch Heritage line . . A little over,1 and 1/2 years now, I have managed to buy and repair on my own 4 Khorns, 4 Belles, 4 La Scalas, and 4 Heresys (quietly and patiently looking for 2 more pair of WO Heresys)


Love thr Reference line; but if you plan to buy Reference 7IIs or RF82IIs at new prices, you might wan to sloe dozen and think ore-owned original Heritage speakers . .

For nesrlymthemsame price as a reference new, I have put together two home original Heritage set ups . . . An 11.1 and a 7.1 for not much more than buying an Raf7II and friends.


And the WAF ROCKETED, friends love the, most of all, the original a heritage HT are eye-candy that sound . . . Well, the most amazing speakers I have ever heard, which includes all of the Klipsch Reference speakers (which are in themelves amazing speakers).


Just my opinion.[/quot



You are not alone in the same way of thinking that going used Heritage and re-capping etc for a HT is a Step Up in accurate sound and dynamics over....Most..... the tall towers. I am a BIG Fan of KLF-20/30 3 ways, RF-7, RF-7II , the latter two could stand a real amp with 200 or so WPC for HT use at reference levels and have reserve. Bob Crites has a 5.1 HT kits or completed cabinets that are awesome too. We were invited to listen to a pair of 402 etc for fronts and Cornwalls rear 5.2 HT and stereo system. I can't afford them and scared I would come home and would ... NOT... "Be Stupid happy"........ with I do have. I am in awe at some of the Klipsch HT systems that have been posted are "The Next Level" when you have Cornwalls, etc.look at Cinema Series 402's on 4 15" woofers and horn tweeter on top.
"THE ROOM" you lock the doors on.
 
#25,306 ·
if I had the proper meters, how would I chase it down, where could I get a schematic? I cant let this go, I have to at least try to fix it. The stand by light comes on, and when I push the different av input or hdmi buttons on the remote, the red light blinks twice, so I know there is still current traveling around, I just need to isolate the problem. Ive been layin in bed at night just obsesssing over where the problem is!!
 
#25,307 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Klipsc Guy  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23649273


if I had the proper meters, how would I chase it down, where could I get a schematic? I cant let this go, I have to at least try to fix it. The stand by light comes on, and when I push the different av input or hdmi buttons on the remote, the red light blinks twice, so I know there is still current traveling around, I just need to isolate the problem. Ive been layin in bed at night just obsesssing over where the problem is!!

Is there a fuse on the back?
 
#25,310 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Klipsc Guy  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23649399


Thanks for the reply brother, is there any others options I can try, I am an amature, but I have knowlage of low volt wiring in the hvac industry. I cannot let this go!!
the dbb blink code could be a diagnostic code , you need the repair manual
 
#25,311 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Klipsc Guy  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23649399


Thanks for the reply brother, is there any others options I can try, I am an amature, but I have knowlage of low volt wiring in the hvac industry. I cannot let this go!!

iMO, scoot on over to audiokarma, post a thread in their Solid State forum . . . Have done that myself with ss receiver problems and received amazing coaching help and manuals too, those guys live to help . . . Will let you know how to chase it down and whether it is an easy or not worth it fix. It will save you boo coo time to take the technical questions and get expert suggestions on servicing a malfunctioning SS receiver there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Louis Bartay
#25,313 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25230#post_23647050


The X4000 can be had around $1k which leave you $2200 for speakers. You can get all great speakers for less than that on CL or can even buy all new Klipsch for that price.

Just purchased the X4000 for sub $950 range
excited now as the system comes together
 
#25,314 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofive0  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25320#post_23650061


Just purchased the X4000 for sub $950 range
excited now as the system comes together

Congrats! That looks like a really nice AVR

Was this the replacement to the 4311?
 
#25,315 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by psgcdn  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23647932



Placement might be the reason. More likely the frequency is simply below what the speaker is designed to play. Sine the RF-7ii are -3 dB at 30 Hz, they may be way down at 20 Hz. That doesn't mean that the woofer won't be moving like crazy (the electrical signal is still there to make it move after all), it just means that it won't be efficiently transferring that energy to the air.
That is true but i have run that song "i love you bass" on my 7s and they fill the room with bass.
 
#25,316 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhetor  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25290#post_23648790


+1 and never looked back . .,.


Best decision for me was selling off and leaving my Reference 7.1 system behind and build an 11.1 true Heritage system . . . Pre-owned and learned how to update crossovers . . . Most bang for the Klipsch buck in HT,is,pre-owned Heritage (I mean the original Heritage series-Klipschorn, Belle, La Scala, Cornwall, Heresey, not the discontinued later Klipsch lines which were later adopted in "Heritage" for marketing reasons).


I had a nice Reference setup up, and sold it. gave me a "do over" opportunity. All real Heritage HT pre-owned and tweaked HT for about the same cost as new RF7s and friends grouping in a 7 channel setup,


Just something for you to consider since you are starting over. . . . A little patiece in locating pre-owned Heritage and learning a little recapping you can have an amazing all Heritage speaker HT.


But, with a cache of cash and no patience, a great RF7II setup or even RF82IIs with center and friends can be a nice setup to greatly enjoyminnyour room.


I,am, myself, very glad, few have patience to shop for pre-owned Heritage big boys, ot to,learn how to recap and tweak them . . . That has left them pretty easy to buy in my market since few people in my area buy pre-owned original Heritage in my area, and thereforemI am able to get amazing buys and have out two amazing HT original Heritage setups in my little log cabin on them lake.


I had a wonderful RF82 matched 7.1 system I bought all new in the summer of 2008. Loved it,for four yrars. Bought a pair of KG2s and recapped. Wow! What an amazing sound! Then bought two sets of KG4sm.,.,. Recapped. Wower!


Found out about the Klipsch original Klipsch Heritage line . . A little over,1 and 1/2 years now, I have managed to buy and repair on my own 4 Khorns, 4 Belles, 4 La Scalas, and 4 Heresys (quietly and patiently looking for 2 more pair of WO Heresys)


Love thr Reference line; but if you plan to buy Reference 7IIs or RF82IIs at new prices, you might wan to sloe dozen and think ore-owned original Heritage speakers . .

For nesrlymthemsame price as a reference new, I have put together two home original Heritage set ups . . . An 11.1 and a 7.1 for not much more than buying an Raf7II and friends.


And the WAF ROCKETED, friends love the, most of all, the original a heritage HT are eye-candy that sound . . . Well, the most amazing speakers I have ever heard, which includes all of the Klipsch Reference speakers (which are in themelves amazing speakers).


Just my opinion.

just asking but what marketing reasons would they have? Those speakers are discontinued and have no value to klipsch.
 
#25,318 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasdom  /t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/25320#post_23650151


Congrats! That looks like a really nice AVR

Was this the replacement to the 4311?

No this was for a 7 year old Denon home theater in a box. It was a nice system at the time $900 new from best buy but it seriously lacks the newer tech. These speakers that came with it will be used until we move and I can get the theater sorted out. Also the house we just bought has some really nice networking with 5.1 system up stairs and 5.1 down stairs for the living room and family room. The speakers are all in wall or in the ceiling I don't know what they are. Haven't had a chance to take the grills off but if the other stuff in the house is telling I am guessing that they are good in wall speakers
 
Top