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I figured when Klipsch was purchased changes would happen.
Well just hope if Klipsch do any big changes they will be a good one. We will see.

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I actually am curious who is going to sell Klipsch? I also wonder what is going to happen to their Forum as the new speakers come out...There doesn't appear to be much love for the new Reference line--Fwiw, I thought the new soundbar seemed pretty cool for that market, but I have no idea about their Headphones...
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It is not AVS who decide but Klipsch. AVS is going to stop carry Klipsch becouse Klipsch did some restructuring and we are one of the casualties. This is what Mike from AVS said when I asked him and make my purchase.
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Best Buy will carry the new Reference I line, soundbars and headphones. Reference II, Palladium, THX II, and Heritage are going to be sold through independent dealers. To make them more appealing to independent dealers, they had to pull out of several sales channels including AVS Sales, as well as freshen up the line, and add more margin to attract more dealers.
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I figured when Klipsch was purchased changes would happen.
It was interesting seeing their trajectory when they apparently were putting Klipsch Inc on the market and the introduction of the "old" Reference and putting the "II" in their name--My guess that's when they started cutting costs and at best both lines were comparable...That said, and seeing the financial disclosures/reactions to VOXX it seems hard to believe they are putting much money in R & D for these legacy speakers...

Folks seem just as happy with the "II" line as they were with the originals so they are still products that they think are marketable but it still amazes me how many people purchase off of the internet without ever hearing them.
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Best Buy will carry the new Reference I line, soundbars and headphones. Reference II, Palladium, THX II, and Heritage are going to be sold through independent dealers. To make them more appealing to independent dealers, they had to pull out of several sales channels including AVS Sales, as well as freshen up the line, and add more margin to attract more dealers.
If BBY stays afloat that will be where Klipsch makes their money--That said, I was around (and got some really good deals on what I own) when they were pulling out of TWTR (their largest distributor at the time) and going into ULTE and then the latter went bankrupt--That is when they started making deals with Magnolia, although they never had upper end Reference to audition... {NOTE: I also noticed the only center channel they carried was the RC-52 and had it paired with both the RF-62 and RF-82 and realized that folks had a hard time using a larger center channel with their flat screen tvs}

I also can't believe they sell very many Heritage speakers and I would be real curious on Palladium sales given what's available at that price point...It seems the THX lines have a pretty good margin for distributors and that along with the THX Ultra II rating still make it attractive for potential buyers--I saw those being discussed on a thread here recent by a guy doing his homework.

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It was interesting seeing their trajectory when they apparently were putting Klipsch Inc on the market and the introduction of the "old" Reference and putting the "II" in their name--My guess that's when they started cutting costs and at best both lines were comparable...That said, and seeing the financial disclosures/reactions to VOXX it seems hard to believe they are putting much money in R & D for these legacy speakers...

Folks seem just as happy with the "II" line as they were with the originals so they are still products that they think are marketable but it still amazes me how many people purchase off of the internet without ever hearing them.
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If BBY stays afloat that will be where Klipsch makes their money--That said, I was around (and got some really good deals on what I own) when they were pulling out of TWTR (their largest distributor at the time) and going into ULTE and then the latter went bankrupt--That is when they started making deals with Magnolia, although they never had upper end Reference to audition... {NOTE: I also noticed the only center channel they carried was the RC-52 and had it paired with both the RF-62 and RF-82 and realized that folks had a hard time using a larger center channel with their flat screen tvs}

I also can't believe they sell very many Heritage speakers and I would be real curious on Palladium sales given what's available at that price point...It seems the THX lines have a pretty good margin for distributors and that along with the THX Ultra II rating still make it attractive for potential buyers--I saw those being discussed on a thread here recent by a guy doing his homework.


I think it goes without sayingthat in this industry, that if you fail to constantly update and advance your productthen you’re going to be left in the dust. No speaker company does a flawlessjob at updating products, Klipsch included. Some updates are marginal, whileothers are profound. So while VOXX is everyone’s favorite punching bag, it’snot necessarily their fault if this happens. Klipsch has a sizable budget forRD.


You are making some good points,but let’s put it all together. When it comes to ID, Amazon rules. But withthat, as a manufacturer you also lose pricing power. Klipsch realizes this. Iffolks want to ‘showroom’ (look at it at Best Buy or anywhere else, but buy itcheaper on Amazon) with the lower end gear, that’s fine. They’ll still sell so muchof it, that it won’t matter. The problem is their premium gear being on Amazonor other ID retailers. Klipsch realizes that this market belongs withindependent retailers. The problem is, you can’t have a decent margin when you’reprice is undercut on Amazon. In order to sell with independents you need asizeable margin.


In the end this is a healthiermodel for the premium lines. For example, you hit a good point, Palladium hasbeen reeling. It’s a serious product which can’t get a serious market foothold.
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I think it goes without sayingthat in this industry, that if you fail to constantly update and advance your productthen you’re going to be left in the dust. No speaker company does a flawlessjob at updating products, Klipsch included. Some updates are marginal, whileothers are profound. So while VOXX is everyone’s favorite punching bag, it’snot necessarily their fault if this happens. Klipsch has a sizable budget forRD. ...
For the record, I wasn't bashing VOXX and agree that the market has changed a lot with the onset of the internet--That said, when Paul Klipsch was in control of the company he was a genius scientist who had the final word and now it's marketers and the need to deliver profits to shareholders--Nothing wrong with that but, imo those are where the changes lie...The last big invention appeared to be the advent of the tractrix compression driver which allowed speakers to have a smaller footprint, but I am not sure where that design mated to a/few LF drivers is going to change. My 2 cents. {Note: I admit I haven't been following the headphone market but that is where it appears a lot of their efforts have gone in the last 5 years.}
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Chad, on 22 Sept 2014 - 11:16 AM, said:We just made them available on our site:

R-110SW: http://www.klipsch.com/R-110SW
R-112SW: http://www.klipsch.com/R-112SW
R-115SW: http://www.klipsch.com/R-115SW

I know some of you have seen "leaks" elsewhere, but we are very happy to announce these models!

just 1 more pair of KLIPSCH Classic speakers...
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