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Please Advise for Inceiling Klipsch speakers

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Front Right Center: KL6502THX THX Ultra2
Surround: Klipsch CDT-3800-C II

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Did you ever get your order straightened out?

I just checked the site again and they raised the sale price to $470 a piece. Hopefully they still honor your $350 each price.
Thanks for asking. I actually spoke to customer service again around 5:00pm. As of tonight I have two tracking #'s. One shows that the center channel was shipped, but the other tracking # with two packages (I'm assuming these are the RF-82's) had a label printed yesterday, but were not shipped out yesterday along with the center channel. I contacted customer service to ask if they could confirm that they would indeed be shipped out by tonight and after originally being told "they shipped yesterday" (no, they did not, that was the center channel), I was told that they will "ship by tonight or tomorrow". So, at this point I have a center channel that is en route, which is useless without the two mains. I'm losing hope at this point, but I'll keep the thread posted.
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IMO even when crossed over at 80 or even 100hz the larger the drivers the bigger the sound. The RF7 obviously at the to.



But each step up in size within the 42-82 range gets you an increase in bass or mid range output up to the crossover with the tweeter. Plus the larger 62 and 82 use a much larger horn than the 42 and 52.



You would be better off with the RB61 over the RF42 IMO.

I understand now that the rf-7 would have a different sound due to the larger compression driver which in turn lowers the internal xo.

The lower models all use the same tweeter so the sound should be similar up to the xo point yes? Well, other than the larger horn which I assume would give a larger sound stage?

His fuller sound that people keep stating, do you mean the bass portion? Again, I have a very capable sub so I don't need anything that reproduces the lower octaves.

Thanks for all the input guys.
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I understand now that the rf-7 would have a different sound due to the larger compression driver which in turn lowers the internal xo.

The lower models all use the same tweeter so the sound should be similar up to the xo point yes? Well, other than the larger horn which I assume would give a larger sound stage?

His fuller sound that people keep stating, do you mean the bass portion? Again, I have a very capable sub so I don't need anything that reproduces the lower octaves.

Thanks for all the input guys.
You still need a speaker that goes down below 80Hz.

MHO is to tell you to get a speaker that goes down to 40Hz. All depends on the XO and the slopes.

Life without bass is not worth living.
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I understand now that the rf-7 would have a different sound due to the larger compression driver which in turn lowers the internal xo.

The lower models all use the same tweeter so the sound should be similar up to the xo point yes? Well, other than the larger horn which I assume would give a larger sound stage?

His fuller sound that people keep stating, do you mean the bass portion? Again, I have a very capable sub so I don't need anything that reproduces the lower octaves.

Thanks for all the input guys.
The XO isn't solid. It has a curve which means you still want your mains to be able to go quite a bit below your X0 setting. That is where you fuller sound comes from. Without, you don't get a good blend and your sub could be localized.

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The XO isn't solid. It has a curve which means you still want your mains to be able to go quite a bit below your X0 setting. That is where you fuller sound comes from. Without, you don't get a good blend and your sub could be localized.

I understand that, but doesn't even the Rf-42 state an FR of 38hz?

Localization of my sub isn't a big deal as it sits at the front of my room. Not saying you can localize it, just saying that it isn't a big deal.
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I understand that, but doesn't even the Rf-42 state an FR of 38hz?

Localization of my sub isn't a big deal as it sits at the front of my room. Not saying you can localize it, just saying that it isn't a big deal.
I think it's 59Hz and that doesn't mean it's going to sound great pushing them to their lowest. I would cross it at 100Hz if you do use them.

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I have a capable sub so I really don't need my mains to be capable of playing full range as I'll just set them to 80hz xo anyway.

I guess the real question I had was whether the different floor standing models all used the same tweeter? I assume that if they do then they should all also crossover internally at the same frequency? If both of these is true then there would be no difference if I were to get say the rf-42, rf-62 or even the rf-7?
Lower-bass-note junkies aside, the overwhelming majority of tones in the music most of us listen to lie in the 200Hz-1KHz range... which takes subwoofers and tweeters completely out of the discussion. If you don't believe that... try listening to your favorite musical tracks with all of your speakers unplugged except for your sub. Then try turning the sub off, and plugging the speakers back in, but disengaging the bipole connection on your towers, so that only their tweeters get a signal.

This isn't rocket science.

The larger the woofers are on a Klipsch tower (or pretty much any tower)... the "fuller" -- i.e., more "accurate", or "life-like" -- that 100Hz-1KHz range will sound. If you honestly think RF-42 IIs sound the same as RF-7 IIs... well....

My favorite frequency-chart:

http://www.independentrecording.net/...in_display.htm
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Lower-bass-note junkies aside, the overwhelming majority of tones in the music most of us listen to lie in the 200Hz-1KHz range... which takes subwoofers and tweeters completely out of the discussion. If you don't believe that... try listening to your favorite musical tracks with all of your speakers unplugged except for your sub. Then try turning the sub off, and plugging the speakers back in, but disengaging the bipole connection on your towers, so that only their tweeters get a signal.



This isn't rocket science.



The larger the woofers are on a Klipsch tower (or pretty much any tower)... the "fuller" -- i.e., more "accurate", or "life-like" -- that 100Hz-1KHz range will sound. If you honestly think RF-42 IIs sound the same as RF-7 IIs... well....



My favorite frequency-chart:



http://www.independentrecording.net/...in_display.htm

Maybe I'm just not asking the questions right. Let me try again [emoji4]

The RF-42 has an FR of 59-24khz.
The RF-82 has an FR of 33-24khz.

Assuming all parts are equal except the woofers, then doesn't that mean they would sound identical except in the range where the one cannot play that the other can? In this case, 33-58hz.

The 100-1khz that you mentioned should be identical because both speakers are capable of reproducing that bandwidth accurately right?

Or are you saying that the 42 doesn't reproduce that range as accurately as the 82 just because of driver size even though, as it clearly states on the klipsch specs, they are both capable of playing those same frequencies.

Can someone please correct me on one more thing please? The only reasons to increase woofer size in a speaker is to a) increase sensitivity and/or b) to be able to play lower frequencies.

Thank you guys for all the help and info.
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