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Choicing subs there is whole another story and you can wait with those until is all set up, because who knows what you will end up with.
Don't worry, we've got SVS dealers over here. Though, not with US prices and benefits, of course. What are your speaker plans once you move? Or is your current setup going together with you?
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Don't worry, we've got SVS dealers over here. Though, not with US prices and benefits, of course. What are your speaker plans once you move? Or is your current setup going together with you?
I'm all set 7.2 system. Speakers, subs, Tv going with me only AVR will have to have power converter and big one for AVR so it is probably easier to sell it and then buy in Europe same or similar model.

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Please don't hold my ignorance against me its been a while since I purchased my little ole' RF3-II's but why are 2 subs popular now? I have my 12" Klipsch sub that I got with my RF3's and its plenty bass for me, shakes the walls, is there a special reason 2 subs is "in" now? Please explain anyone...
Multiple subs deal with room modes much better than a single sub can. Not only do you gain output and headroom, but you get much better bass "coverage" over a wider seating area.

Also, if you happen to be sitting in a null at your MLP and moving your single sub doesn't help, the only solution is more subs.

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^ What he said!


I have a fairly large room. 3500+ cubic feet. One of my subwoofers would not be enough, thus 2, which makes coverage more manageable. I am not a fan of ported in my living space for various reasons (size was not one of them), so I went with sealed. I have an SW-115 in my closet, and I wasn't a fan. In certain bass heavy scenes, it exhibited port chuff, which I can't stand.
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^^^

Just FYI, there are many quality, vented subwoofers out there that I would dare anyone to pick out from a sealed sub in a blind test.

If you're getting port chuffing, you need a higher quality vented sub.

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Well, this is what my living room looks like right now. Progress has been slow, working a couple hours most nights and for some reason the weekends fill up with stuff so not much gets done then. The other problem is I have nothing to play them with . I'm hopefully ordering an XMC-1 this afternoon and then will order an XPA-5 next time there's a sale. Sooooo HOPEFULLY by summer I'll be up and running. Then the theater build starts
Bummer having to wait (I took advantage of the NFM sale also)...maybe get a boom box Kidding aside, it's fun working on the room too and it'll be that much more enjoyable when the setup is completed. BTW: How often do the XPA-5's go on sale and for how much???

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Still need sub(s), planning on getting two PB-2000's. The PB-13 Ultra is really alluring but I can't justify $2k for one sub especially with the benefits of two subs and for less money.
Those were my exact feelings. Dual PB-2000's are excellent performers. I preferred them over the single PB-13U I auditioned recently. Although I'm fully aware of the performance gain with dual Ultras, I'm not yet convinced from a cost/benefit perspective that it is 2.5X. IMO, my PB-2000's really hold their own in my 4800 cf environment...YMMV.

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Well before I will move back to Europe
BTW: Just curious, when will you be returning to Europe and to where? The distance won't matter as I'm sure we'll still see you on these threads! Isn't the internet wonderful!

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Bummer having to wait (I took advantage of the NFM sale also)...maybe get a boom box Kidding aside, it's fun working on the room too and it'll be that much more enjoyable when the setup is completed. BTW: How often do the XPA-5's go on sale and for how much???
Well, the holiday sale was 25% off. I'm going to PM a couple guys at the lounge and see if there are any other sales throughout the year.

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Those were my exact feelings. Dual PB-2000's are excellent performers. I preferred them over the single PB-13U I auditioned recently. Although I'm fully aware of the performance gain with dual Ultras, I'm not yet convinced from a cost/benefit perspective that it is 2.5X. IMO, my PB-2000's really hold their own in my 4800 cf environment...YMMV.
Both my living room and theater will be relatively small so I think the cost benefit of dual 2000's will be much higher than dual ultras.
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Both my living room and theater will be relatively small so I think the cost benefit of dual 2000's will be much higher than dual ultras.
You're in for a treat and will NOT be disappointed!

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^^^

Just FYI, there are many quality, vented subwoofers out there that I would dare anyone to pick out from a sealed sub in a blind test.

If you're getting port chuffing, you need a higher quality vented sub.
Vented and Chuffing, not heard these terms, guess I probably am not a real audiophile because of this.
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A vented sub is one with a port. Chuffing is the sound that air rushing out said port makes.

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While we are on the subject of subs, I was listening to an interview with Gary Yacoubian, President of SVS, and he mentioned that a good sub should do 5 things well: play at infrasonic levels (below human hearing), play at high spl's not limited by the amp, have accurate frequency response, stop and start on a dime (musical), and I can't recall the last, but I think it had to do with the amp. It was pretty insightful and explains why SVS subs are so good.
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While we are on the subject of subs, I was listening to an interview with Gary Yacoubian, President of SVS, and he mentioned that a good sub should do 5 things well: play at infrasonic levels (below human hearing), play at high spl's not limited by the amp, have accurate frequency response, stop and start on a dime (musical), and I can't recall the last, but I think it had to do with the amp. It was pretty insightful and explains why SVS subs are so good.
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I'm hopefully ordering an XMC-1 this afternoon and then will order an XPA-5 next time there's a sale. Sooooo HOPEFULLY by summer I'll be up and running. Then the theater build starts
Nice! Good time to get the XMC-1 if you've been on the fence. They're going up by 500.00 soon.

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Just curious......what on earth is going to replace these current RF-7IIs in the "new" Klipsch world? Is there going to be a RF-?? ? And how are they going to top these RF -7IIs?? that everyone seems to be "dumping". Great deals to be had for speakers that should last a lifetime!

These are about as amazing as any speakers as I've ever heard in my life. I sit about 12 ft from mine and music (in 7 channel stereo mode on the yamaha) is nothing short of amazing. Movies/in surround.....even better.

Not that I'd like to buy anything new (after as many speakers I've gone through!) but just would LOVE to see what Klipsch has in mind to replace these RF-7s. Possibly some technology from the palladium world?

Not to bash (seriously - not wanting to start anything), but nothing that the latest "premier" line has put out even TOUCHES these RF-7IIs. Maybe they have something to replace the RF-7s waiting in the wings......but wow. What a tough act to follow! Can't wait to see what it is!

This is going to be a tough dude to top!!!
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Just curious......what on earth is going to replace these current RF-7IIs in the "new" Klipsch world? Is there going to be a RF-?? ? And how are they going to top these RF -7IIs?? that everyone seems to be "dumping". Great deals to be had for speakers that should last a lifetime!

These are about as amazing as any speakers as I've ever heard in my life. I sit about 12 ft from mine and music (in 7 channel stereo mode on the yamaha) is nothing short of amazing. Movies/in surround.....even better.

Not that I'd like to buy anything new (after as many speakers I've gone through!) but just would LOVE to see what Klipsch has in mind to replace these RF-7s. Possibly some technology from the palladium world?

Not to bash (seriously - not wanting to start anything), but nothing that the latest "premier" line has put out even TOUCHES these RF-7IIs. Maybe they have something to replace the RF-7s waiting in the wings......but wow. What a tough act to follow! Can't wait to see what it is!

This is going to be a tough dude to top!!!

What are the deals you are seeing and where. I haven't seen much of discount on the 7's. At least much difference in the last year, and few have hit ebay used(ii's)

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I'm curious as well, sonically and cosmetically. Very tough act to follow. They'll, at a minimum, incorporate the new coating on the horns. Cosmeticaly, the new ones seem so plasticky, I'm not sure if they'd try to incorporate that look into the beautiful, elegant cabinets that are the current ones. Maybe build magnetic grille covers? Not sure. I'll be hanging onto these for a very long time regardless.
I'm really curious about the new Signature Reference series 8" bookshelves - I wouldn't mind replacing my RB-61 monitors with those when they're released.
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What are the deals you are seeing and where. I haven't seen much of discount on the 7's. At least much difference in the last year, and few have hit ebay used(ii's)
I understand calling (WWS) them directly is the best way to get the lowest price. Great guys!

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I'm curious as well, sonically and cosmetically. Very tough act to follow. They'll, at a minimum, incorporate the new coating on the horns. Cosmeticaly, the new ones seem so plasticky, I'm not sure if they'd try to incorporate that look into the beautiful, elegant cabinets that are the current ones. Maybe build magnetic grille covers? Not sure. I'll be hanging onto these for a very long time regardless.
I'm really curious about the new Signature Reference series 8" bookshelves - I wouldn't mind replacing my RB-61 monitors with those when they're released.
Yea, Id also think they would probably do something to "slicken" the overall look, to something a little less boxy. They'd be crazy to get rid of this level speaker.

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Just curious......what on earth is going to replace these current RF-7IIs in the "new" Klipsch world? Is there going to be a RF-?? ? And how are they going to top these RF -7IIs?? that everyone seems to be "dumping". Great deals to be had for speakers that should last a lifetime!
These are about as amazing as any speakers as I've ever heard in my life. I sit about 12 ft from mine and music (in 7 channel stereo mode on the yamaha) is nothing short of amazing. Movies/in surround.....even better.
Not that I'd like to buy anything new (after as many speakers I've gone through!) but just would LOVE to see what Klipsch has in mind to replace these RF-7s. Possibly some technology from the palladium world?
Not to bash (seriously - not wanting to start anything), but nothing that the latest "premier" line has put out even TOUCHES these RF-7IIs. Maybe they have something to replace the RF-7s waiting in the wings......but wow. What a tough act to follow! Can't wait to see what it is!
This is going to be a tough dude to top!!!
Most likely the updated RF-7's will fall under the Reference Signature line which will be priced between the Premieres and Palladiums. Replacing the flagship reference speaker is no easy task, but Klipsch is pretty good at making speakers


Reference > Reference Premiere > Reference Signature > Palladiums
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Just curious......what on earth is going to replace these current RF-7IIs in the "new" Klipsch world? Is there going to be a RF-?? ? And how are they going to top these RF -7IIs?? that everyone seems to be "dumping". Great deals to be had for speakers that should last a lifetime!

These are about as amazing as any speakers as I've ever heard in my life. I sit about 12 ft from mine and music (in 7 channel stereo mode on the yamaha) is nothing short of amazing. Movies/in surround.....even better.

Not that I'd like to buy anything new (after as many speakers I've gone through!) but just would LOVE to see what Klipsch has in mind to replace these RF-7s. Possibly some technology from the palladium world?

Not to bash (seriously - not wanting to start anything), but nothing that the latest "premier" line has put out even TOUCHES these RF-7IIs. Maybe they have something to replace the RF-7s waiting in the wings......but wow. What a tough act to follow! Can't wait to see what it is!

This is going to be a tough dude to top!!!

Seriously? 7 Channel Stereo mode??

You had to mean one of the multi-channel music modes because nobody would do any sort of critical listening in "Party" mode.
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Seriously? 7 Channel Stereo mode??

You had to mean one of the multi-channel music modes because nobody would do any sort of critical listening in "Party" mode.
I used to swap amps and speakers around when I had my f30s and rf82iis and I enjoyed it. I did not however listen in all ch stereo or for that matter any matrix mode for music. Strictly 2ch or 2.1ch for music here
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Since I can pickup all the local HD Radio signals, I pretty much listen to them in 5.1 since that's what they are broadcasted in. Just like your local OTA HDTV signals. For CD's or MP3's it's 2.1 all the way.

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Got my RB61IIs mounted tonight as front heights. They seem much larger than I had expected--I'm glad I didn't try to do this with my 81s! Don't let my wife know I said this, but I probably would have saved myself time, angst, and (definitely) money by going with the 51s instead. Oh well...
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