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I heard them once at their HQ in Indy. Liked the sound & thought they sounded good.

I would still opt for floor standing over in-wall.

I've never heard other brands (and don't really care to since I'm not into the entire idea of in-wall......too many compromises in my opinion)

Actually.... I guess I lied.

I guess I do have some Klipsch in-wall speakers.
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I heard them once at their HQ in Indy. Liked the sound & thought they sounded good.

I would still opt for floor standing over in-wall.

I've never heard other brands (and don't really care to since I'm not into the entire idea of in-wall......too many compromises in my opinion)

Actually.... I guess I lied.

I guess I do have some Klipsch in-wall speakers.
Now those are inwalls!

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I heard them once at their HQ in Indy. Liked the sound & thought they sounded good.

I would still opt for floor standing over in-wall.

I've never heard other brands (and don't really care to since I'm not into the entire idea of in-wall......too many compromises in my opinion)

Actually.... I guess I lied.

I guess I do have some Klipsch in-wall speakers.
That is pretty sweet, great job with those, looks very nice and clean.

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Need some advice...I have the upgrade bug I have someone offering me a great deal on pair RF-7 II & RC-64 II. I wanted to know which is the best path to go because I'm upgrading my AVR in a few days to Denon 5200(Atmos). I'm looking to have a 5.2.4 setup.


1)Do i sale my RF-82-II or move them to the back as surrounds

2) Are the RF-7 II that much better than 82 making the upgrade worth it ?

3) For surrounds which is the best route to go RF-82 II or RS-62 II ? Thxs
I also think you should use the RF-82s as surrounds--I put RF-3s on footstools and used them as side surrounds--That said, having that new front soundstage along with running towers as side surrounds may put some strain on that Denon at higher SPLs.
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How many Klipsch speakers are enough?
No such thing.

My wife would probably disagree though. ;-)
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Any of you guys run the 64II at 60hz?

I know it's freq response starts around 59hz, but my RC62II in my room actually could be set at 60hz according to mic tests by a calibrator and its actual in room response. I never did though.
I change mine all the time. Full range, 60hz, 80hz. Whatever sounds best at the time lol
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I change mine all the time. Full range, 60hz, 80hz. Whatever sounds best at the time lol
I never change my settings.
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I never change my settings.
I never change mine either.

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I also think you should use the RF-82s as surrounds--I put RF-3s on footstools and used them as side surrounds--That said, having that new front soundstage along with running towers as side surrounds may put some strain on that Denon at higher SPLs.
What AVR you suggest would be up to the task ?

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I also think you should use the RF-82s as surrounds--I put RF-3s on footstools and used them as side surrounds--That said, having that new front soundstage along with running towers as side surrounds may put some strain on that Denon at higher SPLs.
I am going to use the RF82 as surrounds as well, they rock your socks very nice

I have finally got a start date of the 06/06/2015 for my house build ( and media room ) and have started a build thread please feel free to give me any suggestions or opinions that might help with the journey. (Klipsch-eum Theater ).

Its been a while since I was last on and oh my gosh did I miss this community...

The future is out there somewhere :)
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I usually do not change either, just calibrate and leave alone.

Speaking of calibration, I spoke with Chad and he will be in my area early june. I will have the 64ii by then, so I am going to go ahead and let him do the audio call so I can see how these new speakers need to be setup properly.

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What AVR you suggest would be up to the task ?
I am sure the Denon AVR-4520ci would be up to the task and if you can find one should be greatly discounted given it's discontinued (I purchased my AVR-4311ci when it was discontinued that way). I wouldn't purchase a refurbished AVR-5420ci unless you feel comfortable with the warranty...

There are others that may work (look for the ability to drive 4 Ohm speakers) and another possibility would be to find a Denon X-4000 (discontinued as well), try it for a while and if you decide you need more power add an external amp.
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I am sure the Denon AVR-4520ci would be up to the task and if you can find one should be greatly discounted given it's discontinued (I purchased my AVR-4311ci when it was discontinued that way). I wouldn't purchase a refurbished AVR-5420ci unless you feel comfortable with the warranty...

There are others that may work (look for the ability to drive 4 Ohm speakers) and another possibility would be to find a Denon X-4000 (discontinued as well), try it for a while and if you decide you need more power add an external amp.
I'm trying to go Atmos & the X5200 is next in line to the flagship x7200. Plus i heard the x5200 had similar built to the 4520....

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I'm trying to go Atmos & the X5200 is next in line to the flagship x7200. Plus i heard the x5200 had similar built to the 4520....
Considering how late in its lifecycle it is, I would seriously consider waiting before buying the X5200. It's almost a certainty that it won't be upgradeable to DTS:X and it definitely won't get the HDCP 2.2 upgrade that the X7200 is getting. The X5200's replacement should be announced within a couple of months and it'll definitely have both DTS:X and HDCP 2.2 built-in. You'll be kicking yourself if you buy the X5200 now and in a month or two you could've gotten the "X5300" with the additional features for the same price.
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Considering how late in its lifecycle it is, I would seriously consider waiting before buying the X5200. It's almost a certainty that it won't be upgradeable to DTS:X and it definitely won't get the HDCP 2.2 upgrade that the X7200 is getting. The X5200's replacement should be announced within a couple of months and it'll definitely have both DTS:X and HDCP 2.2 built-in. You'll be kicking yourself if you buy the X5200 now and in a month or two you could've gotten the "X5300" with the additional features for the same price.
I agree, I have been thinking about to swap it for fro X5200 but like you said i will keep X4000 for extra years or so and then make move then is all really future proof for little longer time ( maybe 2 years )

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I'm trying to go Atmos & the X5200 is next in line to the flagship x7200. Plus i heard the x5200 had similar built to the 4520....
It may not make a difference in your situation but I don't think the X5200 is rated to drive 4 Ohm speakers whereas the AVR-4520ci is.
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I agree, I have been thinking about to swap it for fro X5200 but like you said i will keep X4000 for extra years or so and then make move then is all really future proof for little longer time ( maybe 2 years )
I'm with you! I had someone on the klipsch forum make a crack over a year ago about some of us who made this decision (me with a discontinued AVR-4311ci, NIB) being sorry and I can see me at least owning this bad boy through the end of the warranty a couple of years from now.
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I'm with you! I had someone on the klipsch forum make a crack over a year ago about some of us who made this decision (me with a discontinued AVR-4311ci, NIB) being sorry and I can see me at least owning this bad boy through the end of the warranty a couple of years from now.
Oh yes, if i will get new AVR will be future proof to be able to hook up again all to AVR not just some and some to TV. From 3803 after years of happiness to X4000 was a gigantic step so now I can easily wait.

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I have some RP-3s and an RC-3 in boxes down in my basement. No room for the RP-3s but seeing the price of the newer reference line, I might buy a pair of rb-61ii and rb-51ii.

Is the newer reference line voiced similar enough to my older stuff to still use my existing center?
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I'm with you! I had someone on the klipsch forum make a crack over a year ago about some of us who made this decision (me with a discontinued AVR-4311ci, NIB) being sorry and I can see me at least owning this bad boy through the end of the warranty a couple of years from now.
I have no intentions on building an atmos rig. I plan on keeping the 4520 for a very long time. Heck it's not even a year old and I paid an ungodly price of 800.00 brand new from Best Buy.
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I have a friend who has a 4520 and he loves it, looked at the new models and decided it wasn't really worth the upgrade, will probably change it on the next series or the one after that.

I had a marantz that died and was replaced under warranty where they gave me the choice of a RXV3077 or a 4520. I went with the RXV3077 but a small part of me still wishes I had gone the 4520 because there is almost nothing bad said about it o well live and learn I guess.

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What do you guys think thats the better AVR for RF7II,RC64II, RF62II(surr), SVS PB12... the Pioneer elite SC-87 or Denon X5200?
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I'd get the 5200 personally.

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Oh yes, if i will get new AVR will be future proof to be able to hook up again all to AVR not just some and some to TV. From 3803 after years of happiness to X4000 was a gigantic step so now I can easily wait.
Ah, yes--I still have my Denon AVr-3803. I loaned it to a friend while he was between units and now it is sitting in my hallway with a myriad of klipsch speakers.

Fwiw, it would be interesting to check the power supplies.amps between the 3803 and X4000...My guess is that the former would have slightly more power and the latter more than makes up for it with modern circuitry (which I heard has really improved over the last decade).
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... I plan on keeping the 4520 for a very long time. Heck it's not even a year old and I paid an ungodly price of 800.00 brand new from Best Buy.
I admit I'm intrigued by those new formats, have various speakers that would suffice for possible heights, but not ready to make the investment (Time or money) but will continue to research--I gather Klipsch hasn't really entered the market as well....

Insofar as the AVR-4520 for $800--WOW! Seriously, I understand the rationale about purchasing external amps and using them/it for life and upgrading the pre/pro when technologies change--Then again, having everything in one unit, that fulfills the impedance requirements at the volume you want to listen (and not lose sound quality) for $800 seems like a STEAL (Especially when you consider Audyssey and a couple more amps/channels).

All I can say it used to be alot more expensive, but prices have come down on these upperend units especially when you wait to end of season sales.

Heck, you'd have at least a grand left over for source material which IS the reason to have an awesome Home Theater.
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What do you guys think thats the better AVR for RF7II,RC64II, RF62II(surr), SVS PB12... the Pioneer elite SC-87 or Denon X5200?
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I have no experience with those AVRs but the Pioneer is rated to drive 4 Ohm speakers and I am not sure (don't think) the Denon you are looking at is, although the Denon X7200 is.

If the X5200 is cheaper and you have space for an amp in your rack you could get it and decide if you need an amp to drive your front soundstage. The bottom line is that the X7200 should definitely drive your speakers (at loud SPL) and more than likely the X5200 would do a good job (and if not you could add amp(s) later. My 2 cents.
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Why exactly would he need a 4ohm amp to drive 8ohm speakers? Because of the dip no one says matters when you mention buying a standalone amp to combat it?

Plenty of folks running 7ii's and 64ii's off a normal "8 ohm" Denon. Not sure about Pioneer, but lets not forget all Onkyo did with their 4 ohm AVR setting was to limit rail voltage to protect the AVR, it wasn't that the amp was that special.

Denon asks the same in the menu, not sure what it does or doesnt do.

As far as Denon vs Pioneer, you obviously get a better room EQ with the Denon.

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Why exactly would he need a 4ohm amp to drive 8ohm speakers? Because of the dip no one says matters when you mention buying a standalone amp to combat it?

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I'm not sure what you are asking but no one says that the dips below 4 Ohms don't matter and in fact that is why folks benefit from AVRs that can handle them, as well as people benefit from external amps who may have lower end AVRs that don't.

IOW, it actually isn't the Watts Per Channel as much as the ability to handle the impedance dips for most people who own these speakers.
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I admit I'm intrigued by those new formats, have various speakers that would suffice for possible heights, but not ready to make the investment (Time or money) but will continue to research--I gather Klipsch hasn't really entered the market as well....

Insofar as the AVR-4520 for $800--WOW! Seriously, I understand the rationale about purchasing external amps and using them/it for life and upgrading the pre/pro when technologies change--Then again, having everything in one unit, that fulfills the impedance requirements at the volume you want to listen (and not lose sound quality) for $800 seems like a STEAL (Especially when you consider Audyssey and a couple more amps/channels).

All I can say it used to be alot more expensive, but prices have come down on these upperend units especially when you wait to end of season sales.

Heck, you'd have at least a grand left over for source material which IS the reason to have an awesome Home Theater.

I am going to try some SA-2's in the ceiling. At this point it is theoretical. I do not have an Atmos pre/pro or AVR.
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