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Just saw your post Alan. When I ran Audyssey, it set my mains to large and center to small, I just never changed it and took the advise of some of the guys on here and set my LCR to 80hz. I didn't run my sub through Audyssey (don't believe the X2100w has sub eq) plus the Fathom series subs come with it's own room correction system which is pretty damn good!

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My center channel is a RC-62II. I've never tried to push it at 20hz, I have those low signals going to my F112 sub. I was curious if in the set up menu instead of putting the center as small does anyone put it as large, so your Left/Right and Center are all set to large? Instead of just your left and right set to large and center to small.
I put it that way to make you think about it. Of course that speaker can't reproduce a 20Hz signal. Therefore, it needs to be set to small and crossed over at a higher freq to make the vocals clear and not muddy.
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My center channel is a RC-62II. I've never tried to push it at 20hz, I have those low signals going to my F112 sub. I was curious if in the set up menu instead of putting the center as small does anyone put it as large, so your Left/Right and Center are all set to large? Instead of just your left and right set to large and center to small.
He's just kidding with you...I would set all of your speakers to small and set a crossover between 60 to 80 Hz.
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Just saw your post Alan. When I ran Audyssey, it set my mains to large and center to small, I just never changed it and took the advise of some of the guys on here and set my LCR to 80hz. I didn't run my sub through Audyssey (don't believe the X2100w has sub eq) plus the Fathom series subs come with it's own room correction system which is pretty damn good!
It is recommended that all of your speakers that your AVR sees as Large you should change them to small and set a crossover in the Advanced section of Bass MGMT....

Although you may not have SubEQ, Audyssey still sets filters for the subwoofer and I think what you are referring to is the ability to hook up 2 subs to the AVR which I don't believe you have on the lower end Denon.
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Thanks guys! I knew you were messing with me Mongo171. Would it be best if I set all my speakers to 60Hz or just leave them at 80Hz???


A year ago I was going to get a soundbar (Sony) can you believe that!!! I was doing some research and came across this forum and read every single post! It's because of this forum and the great guys on here that I even have the set up I have. I'm more than likely going to upgrade my R-28Fs to the RP-280Fs in 6 to 8 months, but I'm happy with the R-28Fs for now, I've come a long way in a year!...
As far as subs go that's one area I am very familiar with. I like SVS and HSU, but a lot of you guys are sleeping on the JL Audio subs! IMO they are much better than SVS when it comes to music and about ties when it comes to movies with SVS having a very slight edge!

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@Zen Traveler

Thanks for the clarification.

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Thanks guys! I knew you were messing with me Mongo171. Would it be best if I set all my speakers to 60Hz or just leave them at 80Hz???


A year ago I was going to get a soundbar (Sony) can you believe that!!! I was doing some research and came across this forum and read every single post! It's because of this forum and the great guys on here that I even have the set up I have. I'm more than likely going to upgrade my R-28Fs to the RP-280Fs in 6 to 8 months, but I'm happy with the R-28Fs for now, I've come a long way in a year!...
As far as subs go that's one area I am very familiar with. I like SVS and HSU, but a lot of you guys are sleeping on the JL Audio subs! IMO they are much better than SVS when it comes to music and about ties when it comes to movies with SVS having a very slight edge!
Play with it between 60 and 80 and see which sounds better to you.

Most of us run SVS. Just saying.
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So many people like to cross their speakers at 80hz and lower just because their speakers are capable. I always crossed at 80hz, but a few months ago raised my crossover to 100hz. I'll never go back. My speakers are so much more crisp and detailed. I get no localization what so ever from my subs. If you have a capable sub(s) let them do what they were designed to do and handle the bass. This also puts less strain on your receiver or amplifier because it doesn't have to work so hard. if you have your sub(s) next to your mains I urge you to try this out. Just my 2 cents.....
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Any idea guys how long take shipping from SD from what Eric said around 5 business days. Also get ready will need some help with set up .
RF-7II happy owners do you have them set to 60 or 80hz. I have all mine now at 80hz.
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Any idea guys how long take shipping from SD from what Eric said around 5 business days. Also get ready will need some help with set up .
RF-7II happy owners do you have them set to 60 or 80hz. I have all mine now at 80hz.
You close to me I'm in Charlotte he told me 7-10 days max.
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I run my 7ii's 60hz, but have plenty of power for them. If you want to see what the dual 10's can do, run some 2 channel music. They have no issue running 60hz either.

IMO, no need to force the sub to handle the LFE channel + all other stuff under 80, if you have speakers that can do it just fine. The sub does have it's own job, and that is not just picking up the slack from inferior fronts and centers. For me, the WHOLE reason for big ass fronts and a big ass center, on a big ass amp, is to run things this way. YMMV. Also, even some 80hz is directional to my ears so the lower the better.

Im pretty sure my 64ii will be crossed at 60 as well, depending on how it responds in my room. Voices in the sub annoy me.

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^^ You have some big mains, so below 80hz is no sweat for them. If you have a large front stage by all means cross lower, but most folks would benefit from a higher crossover. I get no dialogue or unwanted sound coming out of my subs. To each his own though.

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I run my 7ii's 60hz, but have plenty of power for them. If you want to see what the dual 10's can do, run some 2 channel music. They have no issue running 60hz either.

IMO, no need to force the sub to handle the LFE channel + all other stuff under 80, if you have speakers that can do it just fine. The sub does have it's own job, and that is not just picking up the slack from inferior fronts and centers. For me, the WHOLE reason for big ass fronts and a big ass center, on a big ass amp, is to run things this way. YMMV. Also, even some 80hz is directional to my ears so the lower the better.

Im pretty sure my 64ii will be crossed at 60 as well, depending on how it responds in my room. Voices in the sub annoy me.
Do you think mine X4000 AVR will have enoght juice for RF-7II's?

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