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I started off with a budget. I had a Pioneer receiver and all Andrew Jones speakers. Now look at my signature.
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Ah yes but then there is the point after that when you have everything you need and spend money on something else!

I haven't felt the need to upgrade anything in years and when I did it wasn't my speakers...Also, consider how cheap electronics have gotten with technology improvements--That said, I could sell my speakers within 15% of what I paid for them 12 years ago. Possibly RF-7II/RC-64II owners will be able to say the same 10 years from now.
I sold my 35 year old Altec Model 19s (4 of them) to someone in Vietnam of all places for double what I paid for them new in 1977. Plus the buyer paid over 1K for professional shipping (shipping weight was 650 lbs). I replaced them with a full Reference 7II system and dont regret it. Here is a link to the Model 19s - They were monsters for a high-powered HT setup. -

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Ah yes but then there is the point after that when you have everything you need and spend money on something else!

I haven't felt the need to upgrade anything in years and when I did it wasn't my speakers...Also, consider how cheap electronics have gotten with technology improvements--That said, I could sell my speakers within 15% of what I paid for them 12 years ago. Possibly RF-7II/RC-64II owners will be able to say the same 10 years from now.
I'm old enough now to realize the budget is very important, with a wife and kids, things are different. I was single for 10 years and spent a lot of money motorcycle racing. I just recently entered the audio/video game seriously. I need a center and better subs, but there's always something family related that get my financial attention. Currently it's my daughter's first car. Oh well….I'll get there eventually.

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I sold my 35 year old Altec Model 19s (4 of them) to someone in Vietnam of all places for double what I paid for them new in 1977. Plus the buyer paid over 1K for professional shipping (shipping weight was 650 lbs). I replaced them with a full Reference 7II system and dont regret it. Here is a link to the Model 19s - They were monsters for a high-powered HT setup. -

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Nice classic speakers….look similar to a La Scala.

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I'm old enough now to realize the budget is very important, with a wife and kids, things are different. I was single for 10 years and spent a lot of money motorcycle racing. I just recently entered the audio/video game seriously. I need a center and better subs, but there's always something family related that get my financial attention. Currently it's my daughter's first car. Oh well….I'll get there eventually.
I'm kinda opposite. Wife and I have good jobs, no kids (3 dogs which are costly at times however), very little family. We work, play, spend money we want within reason.

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I have owned my klipsch synergy ksf 10.5 w/cc5 center since they came out in 97. Been extremely happy with them and still sound great. Went window shopping other day and heard some focal arias 928 i think w/cc900 center hooked up to some marantz gear/amps and they sounded pretty darn good. no subwoofer and they didnt crank as loud as my setup w/velodyne sub, but the clarity/detail/smoothness of the focals had me thinking about upgrading. my only concern with the focals off the top of my head would be I would need some serious power to make them sing. even at the demo the salesman had the marantz gear at 75% on the volume bar and I wasnt blown away...so wondering if they can play loud enough for my huge 20k sq ft room(open concept sometimes sucks for music/movies. anyways, just wondering if any old time klipsch owners remember the 10.5's and had any opinions about my scenario.

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I'm kinda opposite. Wife and I have good jobs, no kids (3 dogs which are costly at times however), very little family. We work, play, spend money we want within reason.
Yea families are expensive
When I was single, I would do about anything I wanted, now I just have to keep myself in check. I don't regret them though, I am pretty darn happy, they make me smile. I do sometimes miss the 3-5 day weekends driving to Barber Motorsports Park or Rd Atlanta for the races.

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RF-82s + sub or RF7s?

Greetings! Long time lurker, new poster. I'm upgrading my front L/C/R stage and need opinions. 95% home theater. Current setup includes RC-62ii and a pair of RB-61ii with old and cheap 8" rbh sub. Looking to move my RB-61s to side surround channels (I like direct firing vs Bipole/Dipole). My question is this: should i get a pair of RF-82s for ~$800 and add a pair of SVS PB1000s OR for roughly the same money get a pair of RF-7iis and upgrade sub at a later date. There are such good deals out there for 82's, but I'm afraid the RF-7iis will soon be replaced and hard to find. If I got the 82s, I would always be asking what if. Thoughts?
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Greetings! Long time lurker, new poster. I'm upgrading my front L/C/R stage and need opinions. 95% home theater. Current setup includes RC-62ii and a pair of RB-61ii with old and cheap 8" rbh sub. Looking to move my RB-61s to side surround channels (I like direct firing vs Bipole/Dipole). My question is this: should i get a pair of RF-82s for ~$800 and add a pair of SVS PB1000s OR for roughly the same money get a pair of RF-7iis and upgrade sub at a later date. There are such good deals out there for 82's, but I'm afraid the RF-7iis will soon be replaced and hard to find. If I got the 82s, I would always be asking what if. Thoughts?
I would shoot for the RF-7II's if you can.
The four 10 inch drivers should suffice until you can get subs [emoji41]
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I'm kinda opposite. Wife and I have good jobs, no kids (3 dogs which are costly at times however), very little family. We work, play, spend money we want within reason.
It's nice to be comfortable.

That said, I started this discussion because the concept Bang for your buck and the law of diminishing returns sometimes gets overlooked in the Internet Age. There is good/great information to be had, but otoh it's also easy to be lead astray and spend money foolishly if a budget isn't considered.
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Yea but you're set for quite a while.
Many view the RF-7 II's as the end game at this price/performance level. Now that I've had the opportunity to hear them in my home, I understand and couldn't agree more. So, you're absolutely correct...I see no reason to look further.

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Its extremely satisfying knowing that you wont need to upgrade speakers for a LOOoong time! Especially if you've upgraded every 3 to 4 year$ like I have. Wish I would have got the 7/64 combo years ago and just have been done with it! As long as the wife can put up with the size (mostly living room situations), its the only reason I've ever seen anyone get rid of the 7IIs.

Really looks great! Congrats!
Thanks! To quote you, it is a genuinely "extremely satisfying" feeling now. Like yourself, I also spent time and $$$ along the upgrade path...but sometimes circumstances or what we don't know what we don't know intervene. Also, I consider myself uniquely lucky in that my wife has always supported this hobby of ours.

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Speaking of Homework, how many people on here start with a budget when considering purchases? I understand if money is no object, but I've always considered things from the eye of an Investor and not a Shopper.
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As in all endeavors in life, I would hope that most folks approach things responsibly. And I would guess that, circumstances dependent, there is both an Investor and Shopper in all of us. I would like to believe that most are able to define reasonable operating boundaries.

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I would shoot for the RF-7II's if you can.
The four 10 inch drivers should suffice until you can get subs [emoji41]
I agree, the RF7lls could be your last speaker purchase for a long while. They do very well in the bass department.
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Greetings! Long time lurker, new poster. I'm upgrading my front L/C/R stage and need opinions. 95% home theater. Current setup includes RC-62ii and a pair of RB-61ii with old and cheap 8" rbh sub. Looking to move my RB-61s to side surround channels (I like direct firing vs Bipole/Dipole). My question is this: should i get a pair of RF-82s for ~$800 and add a pair of SVS PB1000s OR for roughly the same money get a pair of RF-7iis and upgrade sub at a later date. There are such good deals out there for 82's, but I'm afraid the RF-7iis will soon be replaced and hard to find. If I got the 82s, I would always be asking what if. Thoughts?
I was in your same position asking the same question not too long ago. Everyone on these threads advised me to "bite the bullet" and get the 7's if your budget allows. I bought the 82's then and I now have the 7's.

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Nice review... Nice and technical, which is how us Audiophiles and Klipscheads like it!

Aa paul klipsch said best when it comes to audio claims by many experts:



Ah, yes! I still have my yellow BS button handed to me by Paul. It's a bit rusty now. Trying to remember when he handed it to me. I think it was about the time Bose was traveling around promoting the 901. I went in to the army 10 Feb 71 and returned stateside 2 Feb 74. I missed getting to see him in the fall of 1973 when my brother and his Klipsch dealer friend went up to Hope from Shreveport to meet with Paul. So I think I've had the button since late 1970 to early 1971. So I guess that makes it about 45 years old!

P.S.(not B.S.) Just pulled out my old Klipsch stuff and have a "Bibliography on Audio" dated September 1970 and bunch of "Dope From Hope" sheets.
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Thanks for quick replies guys. I'm leaning toward getting rf7s, but wonder if they'll be overkill in my 18 x 12 room with speakers/TV on one of the long walls.

Also, has anyone used a rc62ii with the 7s? I got my rc62ii for free from Amazon and love it.

I know I'll eventually want rc64ii, but have hard time justifying right now.
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I only sit 10.3 feet from the 7ii's and 9.6 feet from the 64ii (wall to wall is only about 13.5 feet). They are not overkill, and there is no replacement for displacement!

I have and I found the 62ii was not as beefy as I once thought (larger horn on 64ii and 7ii) so I upgraded a little more quickly.

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Thanks for quick replies guys. I'm leaning toward getting rf7s, but wonder if they'll be overkill in my 18 x 12 room with speakers/TV on one of the long walls.

Also, has anyone used a rc62ii with the 7s? I got my rc62ii for free from Amazon and love it.

I know I'll eventually want rc64ii, but have hard time justifying right now.
Get the 82 II's and use the money saved on a high quality sub(s). Nothing pays dividends like adding a high end sub(s) to your system. Anyone who says differently either doesn't own one or has yet to hear one. It truly will bring your system to life...

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Actually, adding the 7ii's does the same. Id agree sub over 7ii's IF your sub is weak, but if you got that handled then the 7ii's are an upgrade over the 82ii's.

Thing about 7II pricing right now is they are CHEAP, most likely because of the new models that may come. If you want them, soon could be the time.

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Greetings! Long time lurker, new poster. I'm upgrading my front L/C/R stage and need opinions. 95% home theater. Current setup includes RC-62ii and a pair of RB-61ii with old and cheap 8" rbh sub. Looking to move my RB-61s to side surround channels (I like direct firing vs Bipole/Dipole). My question is this: should i get a pair of RF-82s for ~$800 and add a pair of SVS PB1000s OR for roughly the same money get a pair of RF-7iis and upgrade sub at a later date. There are such good deals out there for 82's, but I'm afraid the RF-7iis will soon be replaced and hard to find. If I got the 82s, I would always be asking what if. Thoughts?
I'd get the 82s and one really good sub for now and see how it works in your room and then get another sub later on if you need it.

For your $1000 budget for the sub the HSU VTF15-Mk2 seems to be about the best choice. There are other choices around that price from PSA, Reaction Audio, Rythmik and SVS (outlet PC12 plus).

IMO subs are the most important part of the HT sound system, then your mains, then center then surround.

I feel the center is not as important as the mains because of how well a good set of mains can produce a phantom center.
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^^^ Most people on here building a system put the most $ towards the sub(s). There is a reason for that.

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^^^ Most people on here building a system put the most $ towards the sub(s). There is a reason for that.
Not sure I agree. Look at normal pricing for a 64ii, 7ii vs good dual subs. Its close especially when you compare a good 5 speaker price vs dual subs. Simplef act of the matter is, and I learned this the hard way, buy each speaker as you can, and buy the good ones first and ONCE. If not, you just end up upgrading later. If I knew what I know now, i would have bought 7ii's and the 64ii as I could, and then got dual 15's.

That being said,I just noticed the OP does not have a good sub, so yes I agree he should get RF82ii's and a sub because that is the budget.

Id also look at dual LV12R's from Rythmik for dual sub choosing vs the SVS models.

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...As in all endeavors in life, I would hope that most folks approach things responsibly. And I would guess that, circumstances dependent, there is both an Investor and Shopper in all of us. I would like to believe that most are able to define reasonable operating boundaries.
Of course, but I've notice quite a bit more of the 'shopping' aspect when reading through alot of these posts.
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...For your $1000 budget for the sub the HSU VTF15-Mk2 seems to be about the best choice. There are other choices around that price from PSA, Reaction Audio, Rythmik and SVS (outlet PC12 plus).

IMO subs are the most important part of the HT sound system, then your mains, then center then surround.

I feel the center is not as important as the mains because of how well a good set of mains can produce a phantom center.
I am still curious how a R-115SW at $600 would compete with the subs you mention and having one is a must but wouldn't consider it the most important.

I also agree having capable mains is something to consider, but unless you are using the phantom center option, you really don't want to skimp there given how much material comes out of it, imo. {Edit: I just noticed that was the OP's only option, for now}

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I am still curious how a R-115SW at $600 would compete with the subs you mention and having one is a must but wouldn't consider it the most important.

I also agree having capable mains is something to consider, but unless you are using the phantom center option, you really don't want to skimp there given how much material comes out of it, imo.
I would think that the klipsch would be the top choice at $600 other than DIY
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Thanks! To quote you, it is a genuinely "extremely satisfying" feeling now. Like yourself, I also spent time and $$$ along the upgrade path...but sometimes circumstances or what we don't know what we don't know intervene. Also, I consider myself uniquely lucky in that my wife has always supported this hobby of ours.
Knowing they are yours, and not having to upgrade for a long time is satisfying, but so is knowing that these RF7IIs and 64IIs will probably still be relative in 20+ years! They may be around longer than me!

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Knowing they are yours, and not having to upgrade for a long time is satisfying, but so is knowing that these RF7IIs and 64IIs will probably still be relative in 20+ years! They may be around longer than me!
Agreed and touche'...Hopefully the 7's will garner the same status as Klipsch's legacy forebearers. And I know they'll be around longer than me.

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Onkyo: TX-NR809, TX-NR636
Klipsch: RF-7 II's, RC-64 II, RS-52 II, RB-51 II, RB-41 II
SVS: PB-2000 x 2
Panasonic: DMP-BD85
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