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post #46351 of 53893 Old 08-24-2015, 05:06 PM
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Well, I just became a proud member of the Klipsch family. I'll be running a 5.1 setup through an Onkyo TX NR646. The setup will be as follows.
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I got what I thought was a steal on the RF62 at $275 each out the door. Orderes the rest from Crutchfield as no one else seemed to have them in Stock. All in at $1150 for the setup.
RF62's at $275 is a good price at this point due to availability. FYI, just as a baseline, RF82's were available for between $249 and $299 earlier this year when the new Premiere Series was announced. Also, Crutchfield pricing is only average. For future reference, also check offerings at Sound Distributors, Acoustic Sound Design, Nebraska Furniture Mart, or World Wide Stereo.

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My question now is what subwoofer to pair with the setup. The local shop that I got the RF62 from only had a 10" Klipsch in stock. My sub budget is $500 with no wiggle room. My room is about 20' wide and 18' deep with seating positions at about 12-14'. The room does have a large opening which can no be closed off for aesthetic purposes.
In recent years, ID subs have been found to be superior to Klipsch offerings in both price and performance.

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IMO, hold off and save for a better sub, at that price point and that size room yu need something probably closer to $1K Like a Rythmik, PSA, HSU, or closer to your price point a SVS PB-2000 at $799 which should blow away most of the Klipsch subs.Or HSU VTF-2 MK4 for $529. The only Klipsch sub I would consider is the new R-115SW but that is well over your budget as well.

And with a large opening you may actually be better off looking long term at dual subs as a large opening will be tough to fill if you like good deep lows.
I completely agree...unless you go the DIY route, your space requires sub performance beyond what a typical $500 sub can deliver. If for some reason, you want/need a sub now, a possible option is the SVS PB-1000. You'll then have an opportunity to understand how a $500 sub performs in your environment. More importantly you can take advantage of SVS's Bill of Rights which allows a 45 day risk free audition and/or trade up within a year. In any case, you'll have the time and opportunity to save for, IMO, a more adequate sub(s) for your space/room.

Thanks for the input. I do believe I'm going to look at the SVS and HSU subs. I can get into one of them for right above my budget.

I agree on the pricing especially the Crutchfield. Unfortunately they were the only place I could find the surrounds and center in Stock in one place. $250 for the center and $350 for the two surrounds was decent in my opinion.

I'll keep looking for taking subwoofer and update you guys as I get it setup later this week.
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I went with #8 3/4 screws (for RS52s), and #8 1 1/2 inch screws (for ceiling). I didn't wanna risk the #6 3/4 because these speakers are a lot heavier than yours. Debating if I need to pre-drill a tiny hole in the speaker, i'd hate to crack them or something.
Your screws sound good, of course just be sure what you're screwing into on the ceiling is up to the task (e.g. not drywall)

I measured, marked and drilled pilot holes in the speakers... I think that's essential for precision placement of the brackets (it was certainly mandatory in my case where the brackets were going on at a slight angle). The surface of those speakers is also impossible to get a self-tapping screw to bite easily. The ceiling beams were a different matter. Just had a friend hold the speaker in place on one step-ladder while I drilled the self-tapping screws in from another.
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Doing a little research tonight and may order a subwoofer tomorrow. Looking at the Rythmik lv12r to add to this setup.

Onkyo TX NR646
RF-62ii right and left
Rc-52ii center
RS-42ii surrounds

Thoughts?
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Doing a little research tonight and may order a subwoofer tomorrow. Looking at the Rythmik lv12r to add to this setup.

Onkyo TX NR646
RF-62ii right and left
Rc-52ii center
RS-42ii surrounds

Thoughts?
Looks like a good sub. And if later you decide you want more bass or more even bass and you have the budget for it, you can always pick up a second (of the LV12R or a more powerful model)
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Just ordered a R-115SW subwoofer with a wireless module. The sale price was too good to pass up. Hopefully it will suffice.
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Just ordered a R-115SW subwoofer with a wireless module. The sale price was too good to pass up. Hopefully it will suffice.
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Just ordered a R-115SW subwoofer with a wireless module. The sale price was too good to pass up. Hopefully it will suffice.
Pretty happy with mine!

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Just ordered a R-115SW subwoofer with a wireless module. The sale price was too good to pass up. Hopefully it will suffice.
Where did you get the subwoofer from?
Called NFM, they have a huge sale right now.
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Pretty happy with mine!
If you have the wireless module in your setup, how do you like it? I'm wondering if a sub in the back with the wireless module might work in my space.
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I have the sub not the module. I do have front and rear subs.
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I have the sub not the module. I do have front and rear subs.
How does a front/rear sub work?... do they both output the exact same sound or is there something the AVR does differently with a front/rear setup?
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Doing a little research tonight and may order a subwoofer tomorrow. Looking at the Rythmik lv12r to add to this setup.

Onkyo TX NR646
RF-62ii right and left
Rc-52ii center
RS-42ii surrounds

Thoughts?
LOVE my Rythmiks.
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Hey guys. I'm looking at setting up my first home theater in my basement.

Room is 12 feet wide by 20 feet deep with 7 foot ceilings. I am pre-wired for 5.1.4 and going for Dolby Atmos. Sheetrock going in soon. Sheetrocked ceiling, walls, carpeted floor. I'm looking at getting some Kipsch.

Here are some parts I've picked, based on going to Best Buy and talking to their staff. THIS IS NOT FIRM - I'd love to hear suggestions - I am new to this and to Klipsch and know nothing about their models.

Center Speaker:
Klipsch 5 1/4'' R-25C - center speaker - $200
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6228067

Sub:
Klipsch 10'' 300W R-10SW sub - $275
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6345006

Front L & R:
Klipsch 6 1/2'' R-28F floorstanding speaker - $900 ($450 each)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6228094

Surround:
Klipsch 5 1/4'' R-15M bookshelf speaker - 2 total speakers - $250)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6228109

Ceiling:
Klipsch 6 1/2'' R-1650-C in-ceiling speaker - $500 ($125 x 4 each)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...at210900050000

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1) Is this a good setup?
2) How would you improve the setup?
3) I'm thinking I should get the bigger 12'' sub.
4) Doesn't Best Buy usually have 50% off sale on Black Friday? I am very happy to wait to save significant money.
5) What would be better? The R28F for $250 each on Black Friday, or Newegg now has the KF-28 for $180?

Thanks!
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Not trying to be a spammer, but we are clearing out the warehouse with a 50%(+) sale on select Klipsch speakers and headphones: http://www.klipsch.com/specials

Obviously, a lot of you have much bigger and better speakers than are in this sale, but you may want to pick up a pair of in-ear headphones or portable speakers on the cheap.

The deal goes through the first of September. Original prices are in parenthesis. No coupon code required.

S3m In-Ear Headphones: $24.99 ($49.99)
S3 In-Ear Headphones: $24.99 ($49.99)
S4 (II) In-Ear Headphones: $39.99 ($79.99)
S4i (II) In-Ear Headphones: $49.99 ($99.99)
KG-200 Pro Audio Wired Gaming Headset: $64.99 ($129.99)
KG-300 Pro Audio Wireless Gaming Headset: $114.99 ($229.99)
GiG Color Band Accessory: $16.99 ($24.99)
GiG Portable Wireless Music System: $99.99 ($199.99)
KMC 1 Portable Wireless Music System: $129.99 ($299.99)
HD Theater 300 Home Theater System: $199.99 ($399.99)
Quintet Home Theater System: $274.00 ($549.99)

A few of these like the S4 II / S4i II are dead stock, meaning that once they're gone, they're gone forever.

(Also, yes, Amazon has cheaper prices on a couple of these items; however, they are from unauthorized dealers and, thus, have no warranty.)
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Hey guys. I'm looking at setting up my first home theater in my basement.

Room is 12 feet wide by 20 feet deep with 7 foot ceilings. I am pre-wired for 5.1.4 and going for Dolby Atmos. Sheetrock going in soon. Sheetrocked ceiling, walls, carpeted floor. I'm looking at getting some Kipsch.

Here are some parts I've picked, based on going to Best Buy and talking to their staff. THIS IS NOT FIRM - I'd love to hear suggestions - I am new to this and to Klipsch and know nothing about their models.

Center Speaker:
Klipsch 5 1/4'' R-25C - center speaker - $200
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6228067

Sub:
Klipsch 10'' 300W R-10SW sub - $275
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6345006

Front L & R:
Klipsch 6 1/2'' R-28F floorstanding speaker - $900 ($450 each)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6228094

Surround:
Klipsch 5 1/4'' R-15M bookshelf speaker - 2 total speakers - $250)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...&skuId=6228109

Ceiling:
Klipsch 6 1/2'' R-1650-C in-ceiling speaker - $500 ($125 x 4 each)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-...at210900050000

Questions:

1) Is this a good setup?
2) How would you improve the setup?
3) I'm thinking I should get the bigger 12'' sub.
4) Doesn't Best Buy usually have 50% off sale on Black Friday? I am very happy to wait to save significant money.
5) What would be better? The R28F for $250 each on Black Friday, or Newegg now has the KF-28 for $180?

Thanks!
Sounds like they gave you good advice, given that they're not going to recommend waiting for a sale or looking elsewhere. I have the R28Fs, and absolutely adore them. Unless you care about looks (i honestly don't much care for the silver look of the kf28) and those looks are worth 140 bucks plus the wait for Black Friday, I'd go with the KF28s. The R28Fs may have a few improvements (perhaps Alex L could shed light on this), but they're fairly close to the same speaker. 180 is a very good price too.

In my opinion the R25C doesn't live up to the R28F, so you might look for a better Klipsch center to couple it with (you don't have room for a third KF28 for center channel duty, do you?). I got a used Klipsch Academy for mine, a much older center from a different series, and I've had great results thus far, despite the usual recommendation to get a center from the same series for best voice matching (though I've only been home about 5 days out of the few weeks I've had it, so I may have simply not played enough content to notice any issues). If you are willing to consider used, check Craig's List, eBay, flea markets, and thrift stores, or see if there's a good used speaker place around like I'm lucky enough to have in Cincinnati. If you don't want to go used, there may be some RC52 IIs and RC62 IIs still available online at a good discount (250-350). Just check that the seller on Amazon or elsewhere is an authorized Klipsch dealer if you want the warranty.

As far as surrounds, do you want monopole/direct radiating (like those bookshelves), which give a more pinpoint surround sound, or bipoles (the R14S in the current Reference series), which give a more diffuse surround effect? Answer that before determining which speakers to buy for surrounds.
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How does a front/rear sub work?... do they both output the exact same sound or is there something the AVR does differently with a front/rear setup?
I tuned my system via RoomPerfect that's available on the McIntosh MX151 - I tuned it with the front sub connected and the rear not connected (The rear is Velodyne). Then I experimented a bit with the rear gain on the sub – Still slightly biased towards the front. I have them both connected via a "Y" connector to the MX151. My HT setup occupies roughly 20’ X 20’ foot portion of a 40 x 20 room.

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As far as surrounds, do you want monopole/direct radiating (like those bookshelves), which give a more pinpoint surround sound, or bipoles (the R14S in the current Reference series), which give a more diffuse surround effect? Answer that before determining which speakers to buy for surrounds.
I think I want monopole. I like distinct/pinpoint surround. So the bookshelves should work fine.

Is there much difference between the Icon's and the RF-28? Icons just the older version? $180 seems like a great deal. Only problem is I can't then find the matching bookshelves.
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In my opinion the R25C doesn't live up to the R28F, so you might look for a better Klipsch center to couple it with (you don't have room for a third KF28 for center channel duty, do you?). I got a used Klipsch Academy for mine, a much older center from a different series, and I've had great results thus far, despite the usual recommendation to get a center from the same series for best voice matching (though I've only been home about 5 days out of the few weeks I've had it, so I may have simply not played enough content to notice any issues). If you are willing to consider used, check Craig's List, eBay, flea markets, and thrift stores, or see if there's a good used speaker place around like I'm lucky enough to have in Cincinnati. If you don't want to go used, there may be some RC52 IIs and RC62 IIs still available online at a good discount (250-350). Just check that the seller on Amazon or elsewhere is an authorized Klipsch dealer if you want the warranty.

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PS - there's a guy on my local CL that has:

RF-82 Towers
RC-64 Center
RS-52 - Surround

9 years old.

What do these typically go for?
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When will the rf 7 ii's be replaced? I don't want to buy them with the reference premier version around the corner.
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When will the rf 7 ii's be replaced? I don't want to buy them with the reference premier version around the corner.
No indications thus far. Maybe next year? Klipsch still has to launch the wireless RP series this year and I doubt they want it to be overshadowed by an rf7 successor
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PS - there's a guy on my local CL that has:

RF-82 Towers
RC-64 Center
RS-52 - Surround

9 years old.

What do these typically go for?
There are several variables such as finish, condition and location. Just as a ballpark figure I would think $1200-1500.

The jewel in that crown is the RC-64.
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PS - there's a guy on my local CL that has:

RF-82 Towers
RC-64 Center
RS-52 - Surround

9 years old.

What do these typically go for?
There are several variables such as finish, condition and location. Just as a ballpark figure I would think $1200-1500.

The jewel in that crown is the RC-64.
Yeah, based on eBay completed and current auctions, they seem to goo for anywhere fron 600 to 900
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As far as surrounds, do you want monopole/direct radiating (like those bookshelves), which give a more pinpoint surround sound, or bipoles (the R14S in the current Reference series), which give a more diffuse surround effect? Answer that before determining which speakers to buy for surrounds.
I think I want monopole. I like distinct/pinpoint surround. So the bookshelves should work fine.

Is there much difference between the Icon's and the RF-28? Icons just the older version? $180 seems like a great deal. Only problem is I can't then find the matching bookshelves.
Not much difference aside from looks to my knowledge, based on specs and design, though I could of course be wrong (the newer model may feature slightly improved drivers or crossovers). Same could be said of the bookshelves, the KB15s, which Amazon has for 130 currently.
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Not much difference aside from looks to my knowledge, based on specs and design, though I could of course be wrong (the newer model may feature slightly improved drivers or crossovers). Same could be said of the bookshelves, the KB15s, which Amazon has for 130 currently.
Wow. Thanks. Did not see those on Amazon.

So, I could get a pair of the KB15's for $130:
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KB-15-.../dp/B00AS3X740

Two KF-28's for $360 ($180 each):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6200003&cm_sp=

The KC-25 for $150:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6200005&cm_sp=

This totals $640 with no tax and free shipping.

This compares to $775 for the RF-28 line, assuming I get everything 50% off at Best Buy on Black Friday.

Then I spend $500 for the SVS PB1000 sub, get 4 speaker ceilings, and a receiver, and I'm set for 5.1.4.

The deal on these Icons too good to pass up?
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Hi. Here is another newbie who is seeking the advice of the seniors around. Can I use 2 of Klipsch rp 150M as a surround speakers in a 5.1 system with the 2 rp-260F plus the r-110sw.
Can this system be powered efficiently by Onkyo tx-nr646.
The reason I am asking is that there an offer on this package which ironically does not include any surround speakers. The cost is less than 2000 USD
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Hi. Here is another newbie who is seeking the advice of the seniors around. Can I use 2 of Klipsch rp 150M as a surround speakers in a 5.1 system with the 2 rp-260F plus the r-110sw.
Can this system be powered efficiently by Onkyo tx-nr646.
The reason I am asking is that there an offer on this package which ironically does not include any surround speakers. The cost is less than 2000 USD
Have a nice weekend.
Absolutely. The RP150M is the best timbre match to the RP-260F as they are from the same line. It's not as important to have your surround speakers match but it doesn't hurt. That receiver should work just fine for your application.
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I bought a pair of RP150 for my front presence speakers
These little units sound great so to use them as surrounds would a good choice
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Not much difference aside from looks to my knowledge, based on specs and design, though I could of course be wrong (the newer model may feature slightly improved drivers or crossovers). Same could be said of the bookshelves, the KB15s, which Amazon has for 130 currently.
Wow. Thanks. Did not see those on Amazon.

So, I could get a pair of the KB15's for $130:
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KB-15-.../dp/B00AS3X740

Two KF-28's for $360 ($180 each):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6200003&cm_sp=

The KC-25 for $150:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6200005&cm_sp=

This totals $640 with no tax and free shipping.

This compares to $775 for the RF-28 line, assuming I get everything 50% off at Best Buy on Black Friday.

Then I spend $500 for the SVS PB1000 sub, get 4 speaker ceilings, and a receiver, and I'm set for 5.1.4.

The deal on these Icons too good to pass up?
I would go for it, but maybe hold off on the CC right now. Those towers are just a large step above the center in my opinion. You could go phantom center for a while (the left and right channels will split the center content). A good way to try out whether the Icon center will live up to the towers is to try one of the bookshelves you'd get for surrounds on its side under the display (or wherever you would put the center channel). Cross over at 80 or 90hz, as that's where the center would cross (it only goes to 83Hz -3db if I'm not mistaken). That would be a rough approximation of what the center would sound like. If you have the room, try the bookshelf standing up, many consider a vertical center the best plan (either a bookshelf or tower; matching towers across the front are often considered the best front soundstage). I'd do this before pulling the trigger on the center, unless returns will be easy (i don't know if the center is sold through Amazon or a third party).

But that's just me, I'm sure some folks will be perfectly fine with the center (it obviously did well enough to be continued into the new Reference series). I'm happy I held off on a center for a bit until the right opportunity came up, since I can't fit a third tower in the center right now.
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