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post #46621 of 49732 Old 09-16-2015, 07:51 AM
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So what brands provide speakers with true 8 ohm ratings and better or comparable sensitivity? Since we're talking about most companies, I'd expect quite a few to meet this criteria. Just checked the B&W CM series centers, which dip down to 4.3 and 3 ohms according to their website, while the Pioneer Elite and AJ budget speakers are 4 and 6 ohm rated, respectively. And all of these speakers have sensitivities in the 80s at 2.83v according to the manufacturer. Just a quick check on a couple big name companies. So, I would welcome many counter examples to show how other companies' speakers tend to match Klipsch sensitivity on average.
I have a pair of Khorns, so I am not your anti Klipsch guy. I am just saying a 4ohm speaker should not be called 8ohm...I agree Klipsch still is slightly more sensitive then other brands but not to the degree they advertise. The speakers should be rated 95db @ 2.83v/ 1m @ 4ohms.

Fwiw I have used Boston, Advent, Polk, Klipsch, Paradigm, and Bose bookshelf speakers for my TouchTunes Juke Boxes and the Klipsch speakers do not play notcieably louder with the same power as the other speakers. I spent a afternoon a few year back comparing 6 different sets of speakers with the same amp using a SPL meter. Sure it's not the comparison Tux did, but a speaker with 8-10db higher sensitivity rating would be easily noticed and it was not. The Klipsch speaker I compared to the others was the Reference 8" book shelf.

Point being, I have been around the block, used many different brands of speakers in home and commercial enviroments, and I knew from day 1 the Klipsch speaker is not as sensitive as claimed except for the heritage and older models. Still fantastic speakers, just do not understand why they inflate the numbers. Paul Klipsch would of never let that fly.
I definitely agree, I'd like to see them rated more honestly. I'm curious as to how they get the sensitivity numbers. The impedance rating is unfortunate but 8 ohm compatible is a very common impedance rating given, not just by klipsch, no matter the real impedance. I agree though, I would very much welcome more accurate specs by klipsch and others
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Having been on this thread since its inception think it's semi-humorous in a sad kinda way that some don't appreciate the scientific discussions...
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about a year ago I purchased a pair of rb-61 ii's, with the plan of adding a center down the road, and then possibly rear surrounds. The center I was going to get was the rc-51 ii, which as I understood it was the best match for the rb-61s. It looks like the rc-51 is getting hard to find since the new models have come out, is there an equivalent in the new models that will match up pretty good with my existing speakers?

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Sorry for asking a question that may have been asked repeatedly already, but I searched and couldn't find a lot of feedback.

Can someone please provide impressions about the RP-280f? I hear reports that it "should" sound great and is significantly better than RF-82 II, but it's hard to tell if that is based on marketing and specs or if that is an actual result of direct comparison. I did read the official review as well but even that thread is going back and forth about the validity of a lot of details.

Does it really just come down to subjective opinion? I could just buy these speakers based on intuition but wouldn't have any basis for comparison to know if they are good (say compared to something like RC-70 or PSB x1T or similar).

Just curious what the current owners think and if there's any comparison with other products.

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about a year ago I purchased a pair of rb-61 ii's, with the plan of adding a center down the road, and then possibly rear surrounds. The center I was going to get was the rc-51 ii, which as I understood it was the best match for the rb-61s. It looks like the rc-51 is getting hard to find since the new models have come out, is there an equivalent in the new models that will match up pretty good with my existing speakers?
Do you have room for another RB-61 as a CC?? That would be the ideal match.
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I don't think that room would be an issue. . .but with the new models out those are hard to find as well. Why would that be a better fit than the RC series speaker?
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I hear reports that it "should" sound great and is significantly better than RF-82 II, but it's hard to tell if that is based on marketing and specs or if that is an actual result of direct comparison.
Where did you see that it sounds significantly better?

I've not heard the new ones, but common sense allows me to highly doubt that. They may sound slightly different but even that's probably difficult to say with certainty. They are basically the same speaker with a different horn lining... Which is unlikely to have any effect other than enable new marketing messaging.
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I don't think that room would be an issue. . .but with the new models out those are hard to find as well. Why would that be a better fit than the RC series speaker?
Three identical speakers across the front stage is always going to be the ultimate in "cohesive-ness". With the inherent compromises of most MTM horizontal center speakers, if you can accommodate an identical, vertically oriented speaker as a center, it will always sound better than the compromised solutions. Add to that the fact that you will have zero timbre change as sounds pan from FL>CC>FR it's a no-brainer.
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Don't be a hater LOL j/k I too find some of the topics gets old after several years here, as they come back around every six months.

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Sorry for asking a question that may have been asked repeatedly already, but I searched and couldn't find a lot of feedback.

Can someone please provide impressions about the RP-280f? I hear reports that it "should" sound great and is significantly better than RF-82 II, but it's hard to tell if that is based on marketing and specs or if that is an actual result of direct comparison. I did read the official review as well but even that thread is going back and forth about the validity of a lot of details.

Does it really just come down to subjective opinion? I could just buy these speakers based on intuition but wouldn't have any basis for comparison to know if they are good (say compared to something like RC-70 or PSB x1T or similar).

Just curious what the current owners think and if there's any comparison with other products.

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Here is a link to the review from iMagic that is very favorable. As to whether it is better than the RF-82 II, I doubt anyone could truly answer that. Depends on how honky you like your horns, I guess.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://...nDhnr3HxZbHi5w
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Sorry for asking a question that may have been asked repeatedly already, but I searched and couldn't find a lot of feedback.

Can someone please provide impressions about the RP-280f? I hear reports that it "should" sound great and is significantly better than RF-82 II, but it's hard to tell if that is based on marketing and specs or if that is an actual result of direct comparison. I did read the official review as well but even that thread is going back and forth about the validity of a lot of details.

Does it really just come down to subjective opinion? I could just buy these speakers based on intuition but wouldn't have any basis for comparison to know if they are good (say compared to something like RC-70 or PSB x1T or similar).

Just curious what the current owners think and if there's any comparison with other products.

Thanks a lot.

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I have had mine for 2.5 months and love them. I was coming from RF-35 which get bad rap, but I like them. The RP -280F sound great, not as harsh as the older speakers, but then I never found the older RF lines very harsh.

Personally I think until you get into say RF-7ii line all the others sound similar, not like you are going to hear radical differences.
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The first parts of my Tiny House HT build showed up:



I posted a build thread over on the Klipsch forum but I know you guys, like me, also like pictures. I will update once the rest of the gear shows up.

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I also borrowed my office's 3D camera to show the lower level, where the "HT" is going. Figured this would help you guys help me get the right speaker placement.


Click the link below the picture to take the brief 3D tour:




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Sorry for asking a question that may have been asked repeatedly already, but I searched and couldn't find a lot of feedback.

Can someone please provide impressions about the RP-280f?
If only someone would write a review on them...

Klipsch RP-280F Tower Speakers Official AVS Forum Review
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Thanks for the replies.

I did read the AVS review of RP-280f which rates them well, but the thread comments seem to be all over the place. Maybe I am reading too much into it and should rather just buy a pair and see how they are to my liking. It's hard to pull the trigger without having a chance to listen to them first.

The only difference compared to RF-82 ii that I have read about so far is a different tweeter / horn but I don't know if the crossover is updated as well or not.

I'll probably just go ahead and buy either the new ones or the 82s soon, just wanted to get opinions from owners first.

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Thanks for the replies.

I did read the AVS review of RP-280f which rates them well, but the thread comments seem to be all over the place. Maybe I am reading too much into it and should rather just buy a pair and see how they are to my liking. It's hard to pull the trigger without having a chance to listen to them first.

The only difference compared to RF-82 ii that I have read about so far is a different tweeter / horn but I don't know if the crossover is updated as well or not.

I'll probably just go ahead and buy either the new ones or the 82s soon, just wanted to get opinions from owners first.

Thanks again. Wvu80, kluken, Tom Riddle, virtualrain.

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I had RF-82II and I can tell they are amazing towers. If I didn't find super good deal on RF-7II I will still have them now. I believe they are very similar with RP-280F I had to chance to listen them in BB but you can't compare it like that system home and then in BB store. Your system at home is calibrated very well and your AVR can sound different then one what they have there and not talking if they ever did some set up other then connected spekers in BB. Also size of home room vs some BB corner or different room. I'm sure if you will be happy with both and one you buy will be better then ohter for you becouse will be yours. Now there is some really good deals on used RF-82II, I sold mine for $500 pair it was gread deal for new owner and he is very happy with them. Let us know what did you choice.
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Thanks for the replies.

I did read the AVS review of RP-280f which rates them well, but the thread comments seem to be all over the place. Maybe I am reading too much into it and should rather just buy a pair and see how they are to my liking. It's hard to pull the trigger without having a chance to listen to them first.

The only difference compared to RF-82 ii that I have read about so far is a different tweeter / horn but I don't know if the crossover is updated as well or not.

I'll probably just go ahead and buy either the new ones or the 82s soon, just wanted to get opinions from owners first.

Thanks again. Wvu80, kluken, Tom Riddle, virtualrain.

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I currently have a set of 82's for sale in gear if interested, I just got the RF7's
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I posted a build thread over on the Klipsch forum but I know you guys, like me, also like pictures. I will update once the rest of the gear shows up.
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Thanks for the replies.

I did read the AVS review of RP-280f which rates them well, but the thread comments seem to be all over the place. Maybe I am reading too much into it and should rather just buy a pair and see how they are to my liking. It's hard to pull the trigger without having a chance to listen to them first.

The only difference compared to RF-82 ii that I have read about so far is a different tweeter / horn but I don't know if the crossover is updated as well or not.

I'll probably just go ahead and buy either the new ones or the 82s soon, just wanted to get opinions from owners first.

Thanks again. Wvu80, kluken, Tom Riddle, virtualrain.

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I would guess the crossover is altered to account for the new horn, but I would assume it's along the same lines in terms of quality
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Sorry for asking a question that may have been asked repeatedly already, but I searched and couldn't find a lot of feedback.

Can someone please provide impressions about the RP-280f? I hear reports that it "should" sound great and is significantly better than RF-82 II, but it's hard to tell if that is based on marketing and specs or if that is an actual result of direct comparison. I did read the official review as well but even that thread is going back and forth about the validity of a lot of details.

Does it really just come down to subjective opinion? I could just buy these speakers based on intuition but wouldn't have any basis for comparison to know if they are good (say compared to something like RC-70 or PSB x1T or similar).

Just curious what the current owners think and if there's any comparison with other products.

Thanks a lot.

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The RP should sound better, but I don't think it'll be a significant change.

If you already own the RF-82ii's, I heavily doubt the difference is worth what you'll have to pay out for the new set...

If you're looking at buying a set of klipsch, and trying to decide between the two models, then it really comes down to this. If you can snag a set of RF-82ii's for $500 (which isn't too difficult in today's used market), then I can literally guarantee you the RP-280f isn't going to be capable of making up the difference in terms of quality, as it'd cost you twice as much to make that jump.
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The RP should sound better, but I don't think it'll be a significant change.

If you already own the RF-82ii's, I heavily doubt the difference is worth what you'll have to pay out for the new set...

If you're looking at buying a set of klipsch, and trying to decide between the two models, then it really comes down to this. If you can snag a set of RF-82ii's for $500 (which isn't too difficult in today's used market), then I can literally guarantee you the RP-280f isn't going to be capable of making up the difference in terms of quality, as it'd cost you twice as much to make that jump.
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Great advice. Thanks.
Scour craigslist, find a pair of RF-82ii's, go demo them there. If you like what you hear, buy them. If not, then move up.

The RP-280f was an evolution, not a revolution. The horn is a little bit more laid back, and the ports allow for a bit more down low before chuffing becomes an issue (although if you're pairing it up with a sub, this doesn't matter as you aren't going to reach the point of chuffing anyway).

For some, the small incremental updates are worth the extra, which is why I say to go demo a set of RF-82iis first, as there's plenty of people in every city who always have to have the next big thing and will have sets for sale. I'd tell you to demo the RP-280f first, but obviously you're in a situation where that's not an easy task.
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link please. I Have the 62s and wouldn't mind taking a look. I might even be in driving distance.

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So any of my old friends want to give me a final advice on upgrading from 62s to 82s? Back when I originally bought my 62s one person said with a subwoofer they didn't see much difference but I agree with another opinion expressed that you'd still hear the difference. Perhaps the movie soundtracks would just sound a bit fuller?

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So any of my old friends want to give me a final advice on upgrading from 62s to 82s? Back when I originally bought my 62s one person said with a subwoofer they didn't see much difference but I agree with another opinion expressed that you'd still hear the difference. Perhaps the movie soundtracks would just sound a bit fuller?

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If you can get them for price you said and really don't want to go for RF-7II's then I will say yes for sure. We been talking here before about different between 62's -82's and with sub it is not much listening without sub definitely yes. 8" woofers are just better.
I had RF-82II's and I sold them for $500 and I think it is very fair price for buyer vs seller and they are excellent towers. So my vote is yes go for it.

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^^That's an awesome deal^^

It wouldn't be too hard to hide that repair.

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