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I meant the low-range drivers, they are small. I doubt that I am able to set crossover for the towers, since its build-in the speakers. No EQ. I am using now DENON PMA-655R amplifier. Speakers are set properly... in the same positions like the Infinity speakers.

Next week should come new DENON AVR X2200W.
Sorry when I meant set the speakers to "small" I meant in your amp/AVR. I also meant to set the crossover for your speakers in the amp/AVR. I don't know enough about the Denon PMA-655R but I can tell you the AVR-X2200 will allow you to tweak that.

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http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer...gs-made-simple
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655R is simple amplifier



So I will wait for the new AVR... thanks for now...if it wont be fixed... I will sell them probably..


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I've mesured the diameter of Infinity Alpha 40 and RP-260F ... the size of drivers are the same... 14cm, but I am missing bass production and MIDs production... I believe that the DENON AVR will fix it digitaly with some EQ settings...but why are they worst then the Infinity Alpha 40 in stock settings???? So now I know , that next time I will buy again 3 way speakers... its much better difference

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Palladium 37 -f Is this a decent price? If it were local to me I would have to make a visit.

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Hey guys, it's been a while since I've posted. I've been really busy with a new job that is taking up all my time right now.
But on the positive side my new job is a klipsch dealer so let me know if you guys need anything and I'll see what kind of deals I can work out for forum members.

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Hey guys, it's been a while since I've posted. I've been really busy with a new job that is taking up all my time right now.
But on the positive side my new job is a klipsch dealer so let me know if you guys need anything and I'll see what kind of deals I can work out for forum members.
Good luck with new job, hope all is going well for you.

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So I'm contemplating getting the 280Fs and wanted to know if the 250c is a capable CC? I don't know if I'll have enough to go with the 450c. Still deciding between these and the Empteks.
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So I have bought Klipsch RP260F and R-115SW. And I am a little bit dissappointed...

RP260F speakers are small, and the BASS production + MIDs are worst then mine 13years old Infinity Alpha 40.

R115SW is monstroooouuuus SUB... even on min gain, and low freq. everything is bumbing in my room poor pooor neighbours. I am affraid I will not be able use it often





Cauves, Congrat's to your new speakers and sub. I love look 15" driver !!!! Hope all will works well for you on the end with new AVR. Many of us had or still have 6" or 8" towers and as long as you will set them up as small on your new avr, crossover start with 80hz they should sounds amazing with your sub!!!

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Thank you. It is going really well. Lots of fun doing what I like. Guess that's really all I can ask for!

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I settled crossing my 7ii's at 80 with my dual subs.
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So I'm contemplating getting the 280Fs and wanted to know if the 250c is a capable CC? I don't know if I'll have enough to go with the 450c. Still deciding between these and the Empteks.
With your towers I will go 450c no question about it. Center is really big deal for movies so get the best you can. Better to wait and get right one then get 250c and when lose $$$ and upgrade to 450c.

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Go as big on the center as you can, dont buy one twice like me (went from 62II to 64II)...

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So I'm contemplating getting the 280Fs and wanted to know if the 250c is a capable CC? I don't know if I'll have enough to go with the 450c. Still deciding between these and the Empteks.
I think the 250c would be fine to start with. Only difference between the 2 is the extra two 5.25" drivers.
You can always upgrade in the future
Although it is best to get the biggest one you can even if you have to stretch your budget a bit in the begging.

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I think the 250c would be fine to start with. Only difference between the 2 is the extra two 5.25" drivers.
You can always upgrade in the future
Although it is best to get the biggest one you can even if you have to stretch your budget a bit in the begging.

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I settled crossing my 7ii's at 80 with my dual subs.
I fought it for a long time, but did the same, after about 6 months.

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Howdie!

Does anyone know the model / where to buy the stand made specifically for the rc 64 ii?

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Same here !!!
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Go as big on the center as you can, dont buy one twice like me (went from 62II to 64II)...
Three times for me (RC52II, RC62II, RC64II)
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How do you guys toe your mains? If you imagine a line coming straight out of the tweeter on your mains, do you toe them so the lines would intersect at your head, in front of you, or behind you? Have you tried playing with different toe settings?

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Does anyone know the model / where to buy the stand made specifically for the rc 64 ii?

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AFAIK there isn't one.
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How do you guys toe your mains? If you imagine a line coming straight out of the tweeter on your mains, do you toe them so the lines would intersect at your head, in front of you, or behind you? Have you tried playing with different toe settings?
If you picture our seating area as a 3 person couch, with the MLP being the center cushion and my wife and I sitting on the outer cushions, I have my mains aimed at our inner shoulders/arms. That way they cross behind the MLP, not aimed directly at the MLP.

If I put my laser pointer on the outer side of each tower, it hits about mid seat back where my wife and I are sitting. So effectively the towers are aimed at our inner arm rests.
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AFAIK there isn't one.
Thank you, Schwa! What's the stand you have?
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Thank you, Schwa! What's the stand you have?
It's a VTI DFC. I had to put some brackets on the back of it to keep the speaker from slowly sliding off.
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It's a VTI DFC. I had to put some brackets on the back of it to keep the speaker from slowly sliding off.
Wahoowa!
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If you picture our seating area as a 3 person couch, with the MLP being the center cushion and my wife and I sitting on the outer cushions, I have my mains aimed at our inner shoulders/arms. That way they cross behind the MLP, not aimed directly at the MLP.

If I put my laser pointer on the outer side of each tower, it hits about mid seat back where my wife and I are sitting. So effectively the towers are aimed at our inner arm rests.

Interesting. Did you experiment with angles or just started with that and liked it?

I ask because I had my mains aimed to cross right at my head and discovered that when I leaned forward or even got up off the couch, the stereo image was much better. So i re-aimed so they now cross a bit behind MLP (similar to what you are doing) and the sound is noticeably better.

At least my RP-280 mains seemed to benefit from some experimentation with toe in. I was surprised what a difference a small change can make.

I'm curious if others have experimented with toe angles and have similar observations?

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I started with them toed in more and moved out till I liked it.

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I have mine angled at each of my shoulders. I did try, in front, at, and behind. For such an easy trial and error, everyone should at least try it and see what they prefer.

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Just ordered some RB-61 II's
Anyone experience these?
I have a pair and they are excellent. I originally had them as my wides in 5.1 setup. When I bumped up to the 82's to replace my 62 fronts so I moved my 62's to replace the 61's. I am currently running the 61's combed with a PB1000 in my loft (secondary setup).... They are very good speakers.

How are you planning to use them?

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Gonna pair them with a low wattage integrated tube amp for a workout room.

2 channel streaming Tidal through either a portable Oppo Ha-2 or a Bluesound Node.

Thanks for the input.
I almost went for the 81 II's but figure these will be plenty.
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Here's a quick review on my Klipsch upgrades...

I started out with a full Reference II 5.1.4 Atmos setup... RF-82's for mains, RB-51's for surrounds, RC-52 center, and RS-42's mounted to the ceiling. I also had the SW-112 for a sub (black cone).

Here's the order in which I've upgraded...

Sub: One sub just isn't enough. So when the RP series came out, I couldn't resist getting the Klipsch R-115SW with the copper cone to put at the front. I used this opportunity to find a good location for the old sub near the back of the room to balance out the nasty node I had at 40Hz and the null at 60Hz. I found a great location (basically opposite side at back) that really balanced out the bass. Although much to my wife's displeasure, knickknacks in adjacent rooms were falling off of shelves.

Center: I regret buying the RC52II. It was always a bit underwhelming to me. When the RP series came out, I was immediately attracted to the RP-450C. As everyone knows if you want a good center channel in the Ref II line, you need to go to the 62 or 64 neither of which fit my A/V stand. The RP-450C is the perfect size with some added punch... so that was my next upgrade. It was a good upgrade... a bit more efficient, better low end, and otherwise very transparent save for a nasty hole in the frequency response at 1.5KHz that required EQ (you can see what I'm talking about in this review).

Surrounds: With Atmos, it seems like my surrounds were getting more of a workout than ever before so that was the target of my next upgrade. But instead of upgrade them directly, I thought to round out my front stage, I might as well replace my RF-82II mains with the RP-280F towers, allowing me to move the 82s to surround duty and sell the RB-51s (or maybe use them later in a 7.2.4 setup). Moving from small bookshelves to large towers for surrounds is not something everyone can do, and even in my place it looks a bit ridiculous but I don't care, it sounds awesome. Watching some of my fav movies over again, I'm hearing things in the surrounds that I've never heard before.

Mains: As mentioned, I've moved the 82s to surround duty and picked up a pair of RP-280F towers. I'll be honest and say this particular upgrade was not much of a difference. I did not listen to them in any kind of A/B testing, and if I had, maybe I would notice something, but to my ears, if there's any sonic difference between the RF-82IIs and the RP-280Fs it's pretty subtle. However, in my room, they have a flatter frequency response out of the box than the 82s meaning it was easier to EQ them flat. Now, IMHO, they do look a lot better. The plastic front on the 82IIs were never all that appealing to me. The black finish on the RPs look nicer with the orange cones. And most importantly, I can sleep better at night knowing my front stage is all from the same line.

As mentioned in a previous post, I found adjusting the toe-angle of these mains to make a noticeable difference. I had originally set them up so they crossed about where my head sits... this was not ideal. I noticed better, richer sound if I leaned forward or got up off the sofa. Adjusting the toe angle so they converge just behind MLP seems to provide an ideal stereo sound stage when listening to music (and the same goes for movies).

Ceiling: I have no intention of touching the RS-42IIs attached to the ceiling beams and pointing down for overhead Atmos duty. IMHO, they make perfect on ceiling speakers as they offer very wide dispersion for overhead ambient effects while due to their bipole design, also allow localization of objects overhead. They also look decent with the grills on due to their semi-circular design and they offer plenty of sound for their size. In-ceiling would probably be ideal, but if you have to mount to the ceiling, these are a great solution.

Amps: Because of the fairly radical swings in impedance that Klipsch speakers tend to have (some down to 3-ohms), I also took this opportunity to add some mono-block amps to drive the 5 base layer speakers. This takes a huge load off the AVR which is now just driving the overheads. I'm using Dayton Audio APA150s in bridged mono mode, one for each channel (L, C, R, SL, SR).

Summary: I'm not a huge fan of the liberties Klipsch takes with their exaggerated specs, but they do make a great speaker system that delivers great sound, good value, and nice aesthetics.

Here's some Klipsch Porn...

5DM30782 by VirtualRain, on Flickr

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Happy to try and answer any questions.

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