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I really like the 260f and am actually considering replacing my rf82iis with rp280fs which I have not heard yet. Are they that good they best the rf5? Interesting.
Uh yeah, they are 5 generations newer. Lots of updates since 2000.

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You are my go to man... the rf82 and below still use compression drivers yes? I am debating this on another thread here and there appears to be conflicting information. The pdf spec sheet definitely says titanium diaphragm compression driver, but the confusion I guess comes from the wording of "linear travel suspension tweeter" where that is thought to mean not a compression driver. Please answer this once and for all.
The RF7 is the only Reference speaker currently made that uses a "compression driver". However all of our tweeters are under compression.


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The rf3 have twin 8" woofers, a 1" compression driver and a 6" horn. A very excellent HT speaker and its comparable model in todays line is the rp280f. Yes the rf5 and rf7 are better but I would choose the rf3 over any of the smaller rp line except the rp260f which is a staggeringly good speaker for its size. RF3, RF3ii, RF35, RF82, RF82ii are all very similar speakers and all share the same sized woofers and tweeter assembly. RF5 is a one off model that sits between the above speakers and the flagships. RF7, RF83, RF7 classic and RF7ii are the flagship floorstanders for the reference lines.
Fascinating - model numbers are hard to keep up with. The reason why I ask is because I found a pair of one-owner RF3-II's for sale for $350 for the pair, and the RP-280s were $700 for the pair. I could afford to do that whole set at once and move on to the next speaker, or buy one RP-280 Friday, and the next one two weeks later, THEN move on to the next speaker.
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So I also found a pair of RF-82 II's for $500/pair. So there's that, the RF-3 II's for $350/pair, or the RP-280's for $700/pair.

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IMO get the 280 and don't think twice.

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The RF7 is the only Reference speaker currently made that uses a "compression driver". However all of our tweeters are under compression.


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http://images.klipsch.com/RF82II_635042119237310000.pdfSo I have been arguing the point using this which you are now telling me is wrong? I have a few apologies to make but perhaps it should not be on the spec sheet if it is not correct?

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http://images.klipsch.com/RF82II_635042119237310000.pdfSo I have been arguing the point using this which you are now telling me is wrong? I have a few apologies to make but perhaps it should not be on the spec sheet if it is not correct?
It technically isn't wrong. As I said all of our tweeters use compression. Don't feel cheated or disappointed that most models don't use a "compression driver". Trust me, many common models available on the consumer market are not very good. Our LTS tweeters really are very good, and do really have compression.


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IMO get the 280 and don't think twice.

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Thanks for the advice! Definitely seems to be where a lot of people are leaning to. It's going to be torture with it sitting there doing nothing for two weeks until the second is aquired, but I think it'd be worth it.
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Thanks for the advice! Definitely seems to be where a lot of people are leaning to. It's going to be torture with it sitting there doing nothing for two weeks until the second is aquired, but I think it'd be worth it.
Fo sho, the 2 weeks will fly by.

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It technically isn't wrong. As I said all of our tweeters use compression. Don't feel cheated or disappointed that most models don't use a "compression driver". Trust me, many common models available on the consumer market are not very good. Our LTS tweeters really are very good, and do really have compression.


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The tweeters allow the speaker to have "clarity" where other manufacturers' tweeters sound muffled. The "brightness" factor of the Klipsch has anything else beat hands down.

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So I also found a pair of RF-82 II's for $500/pair. So there's that, the RF-3 II's for $350/pair, or the RP-280's for $700/pair.
All great speakers but if you can afford the 280s get them. Used is a great option if budget is a concern
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It technically isn't wrong. As I said all of our tweeters use compression. Don't feel cheated or disappointed that most models don't use a "compression driver". Trust me, many common models available on the consumer market are not very good. Our LTS tweeters really are very good, and do really have compression.


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Still a great product and sound better than a lot of others in their price range. Still a bit annoyed I was wrong following the spec sheet on the Klipsch website. Doesn't really change anything I know just makes me look silly. Please tell me at least my rf83s have true compression drivers? Or I will have to get 7s, it would drive me nuts
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Compression driver models
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RF7, RC7, RF63, RF83, RC64, RC64 II, RF7 II.
Legend Series...
KLF 20/30 midrange
Don't remember on C7, or KLF-10
Classics...
Quartet midrange
Chorus I/II midrange
Forte I/II midrange
Tangent line...
All midrange models
Heritage pre Heresy II...
All tweeters and mids

Heresy II/III mid only
Cornwall III mid only

Technically anything Klipsch makes that isn't a direct radiator is a compression driver. I merely listed out all pre-made compression driver designs I could recall.





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Thanks for the advice! Definitely seems to be where a lot of people are leaning to. It's going to be torture with it sitting there doing nothing for two weeks until the second is aquired, but I think it'd be worth it.
Hook it up and throw your AVR into mono? :-D

Or just wait two weeks and get them both in one shot?
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Hook it up and throw your AVR into mono? :-D

Or just wait two weeks and get them both in one shot?
That's true - I think the main reason I want to get the first one right off the bat is partially to keep myself from using that money for anything else I'm terrible like that. But I'm definitely sold on the 280's. I was before, just had to fight off the temptation of 'cheaper then upgrade later' which translates more to 'you've spent more money'.
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If anyone of you might happen to be one of the twelve people watching this listing. Beware that they might have structual damage that is not listed. After close inspection I noticed one of these speakers have two screws in the top corners of the back. Just a heads up. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-KLF-...AAAOSwjKpXHA5i
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A case of glue failure with a bad fix applied. They can still be saved, however I would not pay as much. Repair time is money.

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That's true - I think the main reason I want to get the first one right off the bat is partially to keep myself from using that money for anything else I'm terrible like that. But I'm definitely sold on the 280's. I was before, just had to fight off the temptation of 'cheaper then upgrade later' which translates more to 'you've spent more money'.
I would wait and get both at the same time also. It's not a big deal, but they would probably have consecutive serial numbers that way. I've heard great things about the RP280s. Good luck.

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I haven't seen consecutive serial numbers in a long time. Does it still happen? My La Scala's did. My Chorus II's didn't. Neither did my RS-62's.
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I would wait and get both at the same time also. It's not a big deal, but they would probably have consecutive serial numbers that way. I've heard great things about the RP280s. Good luck.
These are a used pair, so no idea if they do or not, but I can always ask him. I'll be getting both either way, so for this set it wouldn't matter if I waited or not. He seems to have kept them in great shape, and $700 for the pair instead of the retail $1200 or $960 current cherry sale price got my attention for sure. I'm going to head to Fry's after work today and see if I can listen to any of them.
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I just picked up a pair of RP-280F's this weekend.

Sounds quality is fantastic!... as long as I'm sitting in exactly the right place - and I mean *exactly*. I noticed a kink in my neck at one point because I was leaning over to be in the sweet spot. Move from that sweet spot and the sound seemed much more, umm, mediocre.

These are my first new speakers in a long time, and I guess that's how things are done nowadays.

Anyone know of a way to broaden the sound a bit, so that I can invite a guest (or my family) to watch movies with me?

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Spread the speakers out. They do have a 90 degree horizontal and vertical tweeter dispersion that should give you the same sound.
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Yep, speaker location and positioning matters. For any kind of speaker. Distance from walls, toed in or not etc.

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I just picked up a pair of RP-280F's this weekend.

Sounds quality is fantastic!... as long as I'm sitting in exactly the right place - and I mean *exactly*. I noticed a kink in my neck at one point because I was leaning over to be in the sweet spot. Move from that sweet spot and the sound seemed much more, umm, mediocre.

These are my first new speakers in a long time, and I guess that's how things are done nowadays.

Anyone know of a way to broaden the sound a bit, so that I can invite a guest (or my family) to watch movies with me?

-Bob C.

This is what kind of worries me a little bit - my bedroom is only 11' x 12', and the 280's would be on the shorter wall facing the longer end. Wondering if they might be too much to get started with - how big is the room you're using? Really, my only other current choice would be to go with the pair of RF3-II's that are half the price and the 12" subwoofer, then expand from there to 5.1 - then, down the road, move the RF3-II's out and replace them with RP-280's. Can anyone say whether Fry's has live demos of the RP series? Looking to go today perhaps, but bad storms are coming...so who knows...

Cyclones22, I see you have the RF7-II's - how do you like those? Do they compare to the 280's, and the RF3-II's would compare to something like the 250 or 260's?

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I don't have the RP-280", but I have horns. My room is just over 13' wide, and my speakers are spread out to 11' and toed in. I think Paul Klipsch recommended toeing in speakers, but that might have been more in relation to stereo recordings. I might still have the Dope from Hope article (I'll look).

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This is what kind of worries me a little bit - my bedroom is only 11' x 12', and the 280's would be on the shorter wall facing the longer end. Wondering if they might be too much to get started with - how big is the room you're using? Really, my only other current choice would be to go with the pair of RF3-II's that are half the price and the 12" subwoofer, then expand from there to 5.1 - then, down the road, move the RF3-II's out and replace them with RP-280's. Can anyone say whether Fry's has live demos of the RP series? Looking to go today perhaps, but bad storms are coming...so who knows...

Cyclones22, I see you have the RF7-II's - how do you like those? Do they compare to the 280's, and the RF3-II's would compare to something like the 250 or 260's?
Your AVR should set the correct trim for your speakers, so going from one horn to the next probably won't matter much. Stick with the biggest you can afford. By the way the RF-7II is the Reference line Flagship speaker. Everything is larger on the Rf-7's like the 10" woofers, the Horn, the 1.75" tweeter, and the Cabinet. It's still made in USA. I'm sure the Crossover etc are even better components.

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Dope from Hope article on Toeing in Speakers.

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I haven't seen consecutive serial numbers in a long time. Does it still happen? My La Scala's did. My Chorus II's didn't. Neither did my RS-62's.
I know some are concerned with it, but I don't think it's a big deal. My Klipsch speakers don't have any serial numbers!

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These are a used pair, so no idea if they do or not, but I can always ask him. I'll be getting both either way, so for this set it wouldn't matter if I waited or not. He seems to have kept them in great shape, and $700 for the pair instead of the retail $1200 or $960 current cherry sale price got my attention for sure. I'm going to head to Fry's after work today and see if I can listen to any of them.
Oh….I didn't know they're used. That is a good buy, and I'll bet you will like them.

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Your AVR should set the correct trim for your speakers, so going from one horn to the next probably won't matter much. Stick with the biggest you can afford. By the way the RF-7II is the Reference line Flagship speaker. Everything is larger on the Rf-7's like the 10" woofers, the Horn, the 1.75" tweeter, and the Cabinet. It's still made in USA. I'm sure the Crossover etc are even better components.
I'm curious as to what you mean by the move from one horn to the next won't matter much (which models)? My new AVR is the Yamaha RX-V479, which has 115w per channel, is only 5.1 though - but I don't plan on expanding to 7 or more for a long time anyway and I got a killer deal on it price wise, so I'm not complaining there.

Right now, it's basically been narrowed to two choices for my fronts at the moment, the RF3-II pair, or one RP-280 then another in 2 weeks for double the investment, but both are used - of course, they both look great and both sellers are going to let me test them out when I see them. I'm sure they won't mind me giving them the once over. Can't wait to get started either way! Definitely need to find a decent A/V tower to go below my TV too.
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