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They do from like 2009 and up, but the original ice amps are known to fail... D3 amps are good which I believe is 2011 and up, to be honest, if I was him, I would return the new pioneer elite receiver, and buy a higher end receiver from pioneer that is 2 or 3 years older, that way he could get the flagship ones that cost around 1600-2500, and have just as many features if not more...
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Well... I got the RC-62 II in today, I have to say, this is a big center channel lol, and it is beautiful and matches the other reference speakers I have... but to be honest, I went from a Polk c15, to this RC-62 II... and while it does seem it matches better and everything, I don't seem to notice much more of a difference, is there something I'm missing? I'm just confused with a speaker that is 4 times the price shouldn't there be something big I'd notice? I noticed a great difference moving from the Polk monitor 40 to the rf-82 II, but the same didn't happen with the center, not disappointed in it, but just sort of surprised, glad I have a matching set though lol... maybe I should do A-B-A-B testing
lot of variables:

Are you using Audyssey xt ir better yet X32? I use audyssey pro and with each step up you will notice a difference.

Have you put a laser (measure where tweeter is then put dot on front ave rear, connect dot with laser) on the sides of the center to MLP to be sure center tweeter is at ear height?

Crossover start at 80htz unless audyssey sets it higher (never lower where audyysey sets it).

I prefer these audyssey tweaks

1. DEQ = off
2. DV = OFF
3. Audyssey flat (I have a highly treated room)
4. Tone controls on with +5DB bass (this inky effects mid range bass, not LFE OUTPUT)

I would focus on positioning of center, a 1/8" seriously matters.
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It looks like you have enough speakers for a 5.1 system. The Lx-101 will drive two speakers at 80 watts, so if you are driving 5 speakers ( the sub-woofer has its own power) the output will be less than 80 watts per channel. I don't see how to tell from the specs that pioneer provides whether or not that is enough power, so you may not know until you hook everything up and listen.

I don't know your financial situation or the conditions under which you bought the AVR. My experience has been that dealers will let you return an AVR if you want to trade up.
But again you may be very happy with the sound you get from the Lx-101. I have had two Pioneer Elites; they are solid machines.

In terms of future expansion, you could make a 7.2 (two rear surrounds and two subs), or you could put speakers on your ceiling and create a 5.1.2 system for Dolby Atmos and/or DTS-X.

Personally, I think you have a good start, and if you want to grow your system in the future, you will be able to work your speakers into that expanded system.
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Doesnt all Pioneer Elite AVR's have class D amps?
Thanks for your input, I also think it should be a good start and I like that its "futureproof" so to speak
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The first thing you'll do down the road is upgrade your sub. Otherwise this is more than enough to be dangerous. That Pioneer should be plenty of power for moderate to spirited volumes.
I was considering a different sub at first but this was a package deal (speakers only) but as you said nothing is forever and I hope I wont be disappointed with the receiver
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Saw the sale on Klipsch speakers just now, how do the RB 61 II compare to the RP 150-M? its a $5 difference currently.

I'm coming from Pioneer BS22LR 5.1 system, will be used 90% for movies and TV. I'm also considering ELAC Debut/Uni Fi System or KEF Q100. I plan to save up for a sub later from SVS. These would be powered by Pioneer SC 63.

If its a big upgrade in quality I will likely buy, but if its only small difference i will wait and save up. I am hoping these speakers would last for at least 5-6 years.

These are going in an apartment fyi so not going to be turned all the way up.
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They do from like 2009 and up, but the original ice amps are known to fail... D3 amps are good which I believe is 2011 and up, to be honest, if I was him, I would return the new pioneer elite receiver, and buy a higher end receiver from pioneer that is 2 or 3 years older, that way he could get the flagship ones that cost around 1600-2500, and have just as many features if not more...
I bought the receiver separately so I can always exchange/return it, it cost me 700CAD which is about 550USD so for about that price (could go higher but only if its a significant improvement) is there anything you'll recommend? looking for something for at least 3-4 years
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Saw the sale on Klipsch speakers just now, how do the RB 61 II compare to the RP 150-M? its a $5 difference currently.

I'm coming from Pioneer BS22LR 5.1 system, will be used 90% for movies and TV. I'm also considering ELAC Debut/Uni Fi System or KEF Q100. I plan to save up for a sub later from SVS. These would be powered by Pioneer SC 63.

If its a big upgrade in quality I will likely buy, but if its only small difference i will wait and save up. I am hoping these speakers would last for at least 5-6 years.

These are going in an apartment fyi so not going to be turned all the way up.
RB61II will blow them out of the water, especially in bass response. I have 4 of them (2) heights 2 surrounds.
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I had RS-52II's what I just sold and I have now RS-62II's.

They all are great surrounds. When I had speakers like you now (RF-82II's with RC-62II) I got RS-52II's and they are great.
How far they going to me from your MLP?
right now mine are 4ft from MLP. the furthest i could go is 7ft mounted on the wall.

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do you guys angle your mains inward?

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do you guys angle your mains inward?
I have wides and fronts that I put dot in middle of speaker, run a laser so laser goes thru middle of tweeter ava the line goes on my mlp seat a bit wider that's shoulders.
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I have wides and fronts that I put dot in middle of speaker, run a laser so laser goes thru middle of tweeter ava the line goes on my mlp seat a bit wider that's shoulders.
You want them wider then your shoulders?

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You want them wider then your shoulders?
not the speakers themselves but toed in so they are just slightly wider that's shoulders. I Ann a 300lb weight lifter so my shoulders are lot wider so I use my wife's for reference lol! Is this a dedicated room or just a casual setup?
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Toe in your speakers, either at the listening position or in front of the listening position.

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I bought the receiver separately so I can always exchange/return it, it cost me 700CAD which is about 550USD so for about that price (could go higher but only if its a significant improvement) is there anything you'll recommend? looking for something for at least 3-4 years
Me personally, I sold my SC-68 because there wasn't a good improvement from the SC-65, but, you could return the receiver u got, if u paid around 550 for it, you could probably get an SC-79 or SC-87 for that price, just have to look on ebay for used ones. It would definitely be an improvement over the one u have, would have more features, and be a better higher powered amp. I got my SC-65 for like 350 or 375 with a 2 year extended warranty.
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RB61II will blow them out of the water, especially in bass response. I have 4 of them (2) heights 2 surrounds.
I have the 8" variant, the RB81ii, on corner bookshelves in my office driven by my Emotiva a-100 mini-X (50 Wpc) and Onkyo C-7030 CDP in a dedicated stereo system. The largest Reference line bookshelf speakers were chosen due to their advertised LF response and SPL rating, as well as the ease of placement due to their front porting design. Their choice was also influenced by their availability then and price (Cost after discount for 'trying' a new Amazon CC: $209/ea!). In retrospect, the slightly smaller RB61ii's, which are also front-ported and give up very little to my RB81ii's in spec's (45Hz vs 44Hz @ -3dB & SPL of 95 dB vs 97 dB!), would have been easier to place due to size and weight (~10lb/ea lighter!).

In an odd turn of events, earlier this fall I found my VG++ '77 vintage Heresys and placed them in front of the corner bookcases, adding a new Emotiva A-100 BAS-X to drive them. I can now A-B the two speakers. Their is no doubt - the RB's are brighter, go lower, and are slightly more sensitive than the vintage Heresys. Understandably, the vintage Klipsch speakers have a bit more presence due to their MF horn (Actually, they have the same MF & HF horns as the then model Klipschorns!). The pair are enough different that I am not in any hurry to decide which pair I like best. I would say that by interpolation, the RB61ii's would make a fine sounding main set of speakers - and, at $329/pr vs $1,998/pr for the Heresys, clearly, they are a great value!

Of course, I've always wanted the Heresys... and even my older pair sound great...

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FS: Klipsch RP-450C **MINT**

See link for klipsch center for sale
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FS: Klipsch RP-450C **MINT**

See link for klipsch center for sale
Dang I just bought the rc-62ii

I may have a buddy that wants it
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Dang I just bought the rc-62ii

I may have a buddy that wants it
Let me know, I need it gone asap!! Trying to sell some stuff I no longer use to make some extra cash for Christmas
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FS: Klipsch RP-450C **MINT**

See link for klipsch center for sale
I have one just like it and I love it! Also I've mentioned before that I love your new Paradigm center also. Any big center speaker is a good center speaker.
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I bought the receiver separately so I can always exchange/return it, it cost me 700CAD which is about 550USD so for about that price (could go higher but only if its a significant improvement) is there anything you'll recommend? looking for something for at least 3-4 years
I would steer you to the Denon forum. As far as the sound of amps in AVRs go, I think most of the mass market AVRs, Pioneer, Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo, sound similar to my ear, but Denon/Marantz have Audyssey software which in my opinion is something that sets them apart from the other AVRs. I concede that this is open for debate with valid arguments on either side.

Nevertheless, you will probably get a better answer to your question in this thread or a thread for the brand you want to research.
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I saw a refurbished Marantz SR5010 for 500USD online so I think I'll wait until I set everything up and than see how LX-101 does and if it doesnt hold its own then ill go for the 5010.
Thank you for your help and suggestions it really help
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Does anybody here know how Klipsch classifies a room which is 19' (open on one side to kitchen) x 16' x 10' ceiling a Large, Larger, or Largest room?
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Dang I just bought the rc-62ii

I may have a buddy that wants it
Time to move on from center channel. You're set. Are you going to move on those RS 42 II?




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Does anybody here know how Klipsch classifies a room which is 19' (open on one side to kitchen) x 16' x 10' ceiling a Large, Larger, or Largest room?
The whole entirety of the Kitchen counts as well for subwoofer performance.

For speakers (as long as you have a sub) it's less of a deal.




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Time to move on from center channel. You're set. Are you going to move on those RS 42 II?
Not sure. I don't know if my room is big enough.

My surrounds are 4ft from MLP.

Not sure if my wife will like me mounting them on the wall.....

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Not sure. I don't know if my room is big enough.

My surrounds are 4ft from MLP.

Not sure if my wife will like me mounting them on the wall.....
Any room except for closets is big enought for RS-42II's. I have RS-62II's now on back wall behind sofa 4feet from MLP. I'm just set what if room wil get bigger in new home. RS surrounds are pretty sweet. The best surrounds will be again pair of RF-82II's but that is not working for everybody. So maybe on the end your wife will love pair of RS over RF for surrounds

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Any room except for closets is big enought for RS-42II's. I have RS-62II's now on back wall behind sofa 4feet from MLP. I'm just set what if room wil get bigger in new home. RS surrounds are pretty sweet. The best surrounds will be again pair of RF-82II's but that is not working for everybody. So maybe on the end your wife will love pair of RS over RF for surrounds
The only thing with the 62ii is that one cost as much as two 42ii

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The only thing with the 62ii is that one cost as much as two 42ii
You right but never know what you can find it. So bad I didn't know sooner you need pair of RS. I sold my RS-52II like 2 weeks ago.

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You right but never know what you can find it. So bad I didn't know sooner you need pair of RS. I sold my RS-52II like 2 weeks ago.
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