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i ran audyssey because i though it would help with my dang room reflections/echoing but it did not help with that
audyssey on or off doesnt change the volume (dynamic eg/vol off - a marantz feature)
For room reflections/echos you need room acoustic treatments.

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I recently picked up a r28f system for a crazy good price. I am powering it with a Denon x1300w. I think it sounds pretty good!

What are the pros to upgrading to the RP series? Maybe the RP260.

I live in an apartment and listening at reference levels is impossible. I got a warning from the office less than 48hrs of installing the system.
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I recently picked up a r28f system for a crazy good price. I am powering it with a Denon x1300w. I think it sounds pretty good!

What are the pros to upgrading to the RP series? Maybe the RP260.

I live in an apartment and listening at reference levels is impossible. I got a warning from the office less than 48hrs of installing the system.
From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

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i ran audyssey because i though it would help with my dang room reflections/echoing but it did not help with that
audyssey on or off doesnt change the volume (dynamic eg/vol off - a marantz feature)
Audyssey changes channel gain, and simply turning it on and off keeps the channel volume settings as they were. Also, filtering in audyssey can cause a slight change in volume with different speakers. I'm not refering to dynamic volume/EQ at all, which is an Audyssey feature, not Marantz per se.



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I recently picked up a r28f system for a crazy good price. I am powering it with a Denon x1300w. I think it sounds pretty good!

What are the pros to upgrading to the RP series? Maybe the RP260.

I live in an apartment and listening at reference levels is impossible. I got a warning from the office less than 48hrs of installing the system.
From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

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I appreciate that reply and your choice of music. I would not be able to give rear ported speakers proper clearance anyways.
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From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

My .02
Sorry you went through all that, but glad to hear you ended up with something that makes you happy--fundamentally, that should be all that any of us are really seeking, regardless of the gear we choose.

That Fleetwood Mac is good stuff. Enjoy!
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RP 280
i'm not too impressed with the 'high sensitivity'
loudness does not appear to be significantly higher than previous speakers i had (ascend340s). i'm listening to my usual -19 (although new is AVR marantz 1506) ... and actually seems to be less loud than i remember..
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Both the Klipsch and Ascends are high efficiency speakers and I doubt you can hear either one above reference levels without hurting your ears. So which sound better to you is the one you should be looking at. There is a guy @Theriddler07sms had very nice ascend system (Sierra line) and is now using Klipsch RP line and maybe he can give his opinion in better detail the differences between each in his situation.
I had the Sierra 2's, Sierra 1's, and a Sierra Horizon. I now have Klipsch 160m, 240s, and a 440c. The Sierra were better for music than the Klipsch line but for movies I cant tell a difference. I understand where you are coming from with them being less loud at same listening level.

The Klipsch are high sensitivity so they play louder. When I would run audessey on my Sierras it would place them at around -1 to -2 db, the Klipsch are around -6 to -8. I had to turn up my Klipsch to around -3 to -4 on the receiver to have same listening level at similar volume setting.

After everything, I am very satisfied with my Klipsch and am currently looing at on-ceiling option for atmos speakers.
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From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

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Those ports shouldn't need more than a foot. Are you using any sort of room correction?



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Would you guys use R-5502-W II or R-6800-W II for LCR speakers with an AT screen?
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Hello,
Does any know of any center channel speaker mounts for Klipsch RP-450C? Do you guys recommend one or suggest it just lay on the floor. Prefer the mounts so its above the floor and easy cleaning of floor. Let me know your thoughts/suggestions.
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Does any know of any center channel speaker mounts for Klipsch RP-450C? Do you guys recommend one or suggest it just lay on the floor. Prefer the mounts so its above the floor and easy cleaning of floor. Let me know your thoughts/suggestions.
Thanks
Are you able to buy/build a stand to put your speaker on. You do not want it on the floor if possible. When you asked for speaker mounts, are you talking about wall mounts?

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I love my Klipsch speakers in my home theater. I did a 7.1.4 array using all in wall/ceiling speakers from them, paired with a 12 inch JL Audio sub, and it ROCKS.

To speak to an earlier post about Klipsch and its perceived status (or lack thereof) in the audiophile world, I can tell you that I am the first to admit that I considered MANY other, "higher quality" speakers for my home theater. In the end, the Klipsch sound amazing, and while I may not know if the more expensive ones would sound better, it doesn't matter I love what I have! And that is all that is important. Too many folks on forums want to make you feel "less than" or as though whatever you decide, you made the wrong choice.

That said, I would not consider Klipsch for stereo listening, as the signature is not one I enjoy for music. I prefer B&W (which I have) and a few other brands. For home theater? Klipsch all the way, for me. Happy owner, here
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I love my Klipsch speakers in my home theater. I did a 7.1.4 array using all in wall/ceiling speakers from them, paired with a 12 inch JL Audio sub, and it ROCKS.

To speak to an earlier post about Klipsch and its perceived status (or lack thereof) in the audiophile world, I can tell you that I am the first to admit that I considered MANY other, "higher quality" speakers for my home theater. In the end, the Klipsch sound amazing, and while I may not know if the more expensive ones would sound better, it doesn't matter I love what I have! And that is all that is important. Too many folks on forums want to make you feel "less than" or as though whatever you decide, you made the wrong choice.

That said, I would not consider Klipsch for stereo listening, as the signature is not one I enjoy for music. I prefer B&W (which I have) and a few other brands. For home theater? Klipsch all the way, for me. Happy owner, here
Listen to a klipsch Heritage speakers... like a Cornwall or LaScala etc different story on music.
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I love my Klipsch speakers in my home theater. I did a 7.1.4 array using all in wall/ceiling speakers from them, paired with a 12 inch JL Audio sub, and it ROCKS.

To speak to an earlier post about Klipsch and its perceived status (or lack thereof) in the audiophile world, I can tell you that I am the first to admit that I considered MANY other, "higher quality" speakers for my home theater. In the end, the Klipsch sound amazing, and while I may not know if the more expensive ones would sound better, it doesn't matter I love what I have! And that is all that is important. Too many folks on forums want to make you feel "less than" or as though whatever you decide, you made the wrong choice.

That said, I would not consider Klipsch for stereo listening, as the signature is not one I enjoy for music. I prefer B&W (which I have) and a few other brands. For home theater? Klipsch all the way, for me. Happy owner, here
Listen to a klipsch Heritage speakers... like a Cornwall or LaScala etc different story on music.
I have. Not my taste. Wonderful speakers, just not my thing
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I love my Klipsch speakers in my home theater. I did a 7.1.4 array using all in wall/ceiling speakers from them, paired with a 12 inch JL Audio sub, and it ROCKS.

To speak to an earlier post about Klipsch and its perceived status (or lack thereof) in the audiophile world, I can tell you that I am the first to admit that I considered MANY other, "higher quality" speakers for my home theater. In the end, the Klipsch sound amazing, and while I may not know if the more expensive ones would sound better, it doesn't matter I love what I have! And that is all that is important. Too many folks on forums want to make you feel "less than" or as though whatever you decide, you made the wrong choice.

That said, I would not consider Klipsch for stereo listening, as the signature is not one I enjoy for music. I prefer B&W (which I have) and a few other brands. For home theater? Klipsch all the way, for me. Happy owner, here
Glad you like them. The Palladium and RF7 series do well for music also.
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Are you able to buy/build a stand to put your speaker on. You do not want it on the floor if possible. When you asked for speaker mounts, are you talking about wall mounts?
No. I am looking for brackets to mount this on. Like few inches above ground. Something which looks slick and also does the work of carrying these heavy speakers. Similar to below link but obviously more sturdy and which can carry these specs
31-1/8"W x 6-13/16"H x 14-9/16"D
weight: 35.7 lbs.

https://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Moun...+speaker+mount
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I love my Klipsch speakers in my home theater. I did a 7.1.4 array using all in wall/ceiling speakers from them, paired with a 12 inch JL Audio sub, and it ROCKS.

To speak to an earlier post about Klipsch and its perceived status (or lack thereof) in the audiophile world, I can tell you that I am the first to admit that I considered MANY other, "higher quality" speakers for my home theater. In the end, the Klipsch sound amazing, and while I may not know if the more expensive ones would sound better, it doesn't matter I love what I have! And that is all that is important. Too many folks on forums want to make you feel "less than" or as though whatever you decide, you made the wrong choice.

That said, I would not consider Klipsch for stereo listening, as the signature is not one I enjoy for music. I prefer B&W (which I have) and a few other brands. For home theater? Klipsch all the way, for me. Happy owner, here
I'm happy with my Klipsch Reference II speakers for music. But, I also don't like the B&W highs which seem too harsh with volume to me, and I don't care for the JL Audio subwoofers much at all, especially compared dollar for dollar to other ID brands.
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I'm happy with my Klipsch Reference II speakers for music. But, I also don't like the B&W highs which seem too harsh with volume to me, and I don't care for the JL Audio subwoofers much at all, especially compared dollar for dollar to other ID brands.
Hey guys,

Building a 7.2.4 setup with all Klipsch Reference Premier speakers. The room is 23x20x9'

My question is, are you supposed to be using the RP160M Bookshelf speakers for the side channels adjacent to the seating area at 90 degrees or are you supposed to/can you be using RP-250S for both the side & rear surrounds (all 4 speakers)?

The Klipsch reference premiere user manual online is very confusing and I've heard it recommended both ways now. I would really like to avoid using 13" deep Bookshelf Speakers to "float" them off the wall for the side surrounds if I can use the lower-profile RP-250S if they work just fine instead. Are the RP-250's not intended to be side-surrounds at all?

Whatever I do I want to keep the side speakers within 13" from sticking off the wall. The Bookshelf speakers are rear-ported so unless I get the smaller RP-150m's vs. 160's they will be too deep which makes it more difficult.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Hey guys,

Building a 7.2.4 setup with all Klipsch Reference Premier speakers. The room is 23x20x9'

My question is, are you supposed to be using the RP160M Bookshelf speakers for the side channels adjacent to the seating area at 90 degrees or are you supposed to/can you be using RP-250S for both the side & rear surrounds (all 4 speakers)?

The Klipsch reference premiere user manual online is very confusing and I've heard it recommended both ways now. I would really like to avoid using 13" deep Bookshelf Speakers to "float" them off the wall for the side surrounds if I can use the lower-profile RP-250S if they work just fine instead. Are the RP-250's not intended to be side-surrounds at all?

Whatever I do I want to keep the side speakers within 13" from sticking off the wall. The Bookshelf speakers are rear-ported so unless I get the smaller RP-150m's vs. 160's they will be too deep which makes it more difficult.

Any advice would be appreciated.
You can use either the bipole or monopole style speakers for any and all surround applications. You can mix match if you like. I have bipoles for surround and monopoles for rear. I also have monopoles with rear ports and they are only a half inch out from the wall; I have no issues with neededing more space. The RP-150s will be fine in this respect.



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No. I am looking for brackets to mount this on. Like few inches above ground. Something which looks slick and also does the work of carrying these heavy speakers. Similar to below link but obviously more sturdy and which can carry these specs
31-1/8"W x 6-13/16"H x 14-9/16"D
weight: 35.7 lbs.

https://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Moun...+speaker+mount
Yes, those would work if you mount those to the wall to get it off the floor. I believe @gene4ht has something similiar.

Another option you can do is https://www.amazon.com/Auralex-Acous.../dp/B0002D0B4K which will have to rest on floor or plywood. Its great for angling up the speaker without a speaker stand. You could probably use this with small 1 inch board that goes on top of the brackets you mentioned and rest your speaker on it. It will angle it and remove resonance. How far off the floor are you talking about?
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No. I am looking for brackets to mount this on. Like few inches above ground. Something which looks slick and also does the work of carrying these heavy speakers. Similar to below link but obviously more sturdy and which can carry these specs
31-1/8"W x 6-13/16"H x 14-9/16"D
weight: 35.7 lbs.

https://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Moun...+speaker+mount
The AM38CC is the big brother, which can carry the weight, but you'll have to make a decision on the depth. On backorder like the AM41L I want.

http://www.pinpointmounts.com/AM38CC...eakerWallMount
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Im thinking of upgrading my Polk T series to Klipsch RP-280FA's with the RP-450C and a 12" Sub to go with it. I have 8 foot ceilings and don't really have room for Atmos speakers, due to recessed lighting and some vents. Would this be a pretty substantial upgrade for me?
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Does any know of any center channel speaker mounts for Klipsch RP-450C? Do you guys recommend one or suggest it just lay on the floor. Prefer the mounts so its above the floor and easy cleaning of floor. Let me know your thoughts/suggestions.
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Yes, those would work if you mount those to the wall to get it off the floor. I believe @gene4ht has something similiar.
As per the post from @ereed , I elected to utilize contemporary looking brackets + a shelf because I wanted the ability to utilize the adjustable tilting feet to properly aim/angle the speaker toward the MLPs. The two brackets are screwed into the studs (16" OC) and have no problem supporting the 52 lb RC-64II. Both shelf and brackets are from Menards and costs less than $20 total.

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Im thinking of upgrading my Polk T series to Klipsch RP-280FA's with the RP-450C and a 12" Sub to go with it. I have 8 foot ceilings and don't really have room for Atmos speakers, due to recessed lighting and some vents. Would this be a pretty substantial upgrade for me?
IMO, yes. But why limit yourself to a 12" sub?

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