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OT...just saw Hacksaw Ridge last night...excellent movie, outstanding direction from Mel Gibson...and for those of you with Atmos and capable subs...it's demo worthy material!

@ScottSFA Time to exercise your new Klipsch 15"er...
My subs got a workout in that movie. I need to get a copy with Atmos and watch it again.
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WOW! Did you get one of Morris's amps? AT4000? AT6000?

WOW! 205

WOW! 7 + 8 = 15 This means 9.2.6 in your future?
You know I love Morris. I sold my AT1505 on ebum. Then I jumped on his newest amp, a Class D. I got the AT527NC, 200w/7 channels. It is so sweet! Once I go to Atmos, probably next year, I just need an amp and the 205. Already have the speakers for a 7.2.4. The extra amp will power my X.X.4 speakers and any extra speaker positions that come down the line. Front heights? Who knows? It will just future proof me in the end.

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In my situation, an external amp made a HUGE difference, especially the lower end (that might be due to the headroom)
I listen to 50% music/movies. I have a 10 year old Yamaha 7 channel AVR, it does fine for movies. The wife and kids don't watch movies very loud anyway. I sounded ok for music, but would occasionally clip (4 ohm Klipsch) When I upgraded to an Emotive pre-amp and XPA-2, the sound improvement was dramatic. It sounds much more crisp and clear, and no more clipping
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My subs got a workout in that movie. I need to get a copy with Atmos and watch it again.
Yep...the entire second half of the movie was one big sub fest. And Atmos adds yet another dimension...IMO, one of the better examples...it's unfortunate that only the BluRay and 4K versions contain Atmos...it seems some studios strip Atmos from the rental versions.

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You know I love Morris. I sold my AT1505 on ebum. Then I jumped on his newest amp, a Class D. I got the AT527NC, 200w/7 channels. It is so sweet! Once I go to Atmos, probably next year, I just need an amp and the 205. Already have the speakers for a 7.2.4. The extra amp will power my X.X.4 speakers and any extra speaker positions that come down the line. Front heights? Who knows? It will just future proof me in the end.
Man love! But seriously...ATI has a great reputation and following. Relative to class D amps, Pioneer and Onkyo have gone class D as well for their flagship AVRs. Along with better efficiency and cooler running performance, have you noticed any difference in performance across the frequency range and in particular general sound signature?

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In my situation, an external amp made a HUGE difference, especially the lower end (that might be due to the headroom)
I listen to 50% music/movies. I have a 10 year old Yamaha 7 channel AVR, it does fine for movies. The wife and kids don't watch movies very loud anyway. I sounded ok for music, but would occasionally clip (4 ohm Klipsch) When I upgraded to an Emotive pre-amp and XPA-2, the sound improvement was dramatic. It sounds much more crisp and clear, and no more clipping
I keep hearing (no pun intended) this from time to time...especially mid-bass (60Hz-120Hz)...more tactile feedback...chest thump...do you concur?
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I keep hearing (no pun intended) this from time to time...especially mid-bass (60Hz-120Hz)...more tactile feedback...chest thump...do you concur?
Yes I do.

Before the addition of the pre and amp, I felt like I needed a sub for music. Now I don't even use a sub for music. I was amazed how much the lower end gained.
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Yes I do.

Before the addition of the pre and amp, I felt like I needed a sub for music. Now I don't even use a sub for music. I was amazed how much the lower end gained.
I was of the same opinion when I use my Hafler separates for TT and R2R as my Cornwalls have 15" woofers. But that was until I added this SVS PB 13 Ultra Sub WOW it goes down lower then my Klipsch woofers. It is so NOT a one hit wonder like my two older Klipsch Sub 12 were. Yes it's expensive (for my budget) but now that I have it I should have done this years ago.

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I was of the same opinion when I use my Hafler separates for TT and R2R as my Cornwalls have 15" woofers. But that was until I added this SVS PB 13 Ultra Sub WOW it goes down lower then my Klipsch woofers. It is so NOT a one hit wonder like my two older Klipsch Sub 12 were. Yes it's expensive (for my budget) but now that I have it I should have done this years ago.
Yes I agree, and that 13 Ultra is a very nice sub. My sub is a cheaper Polk, with music, it sounds better with it off!
I know I need a good sub, even for music, I'm missing out some of the lower end. I might try a new RF7 based sub Klipsch is coming out with.
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Man love! But seriously...ATI has a great reputation and following. Relative to class D amps, Pioneer and Onkyo have gone class D as well for their flagship AVRs. Along with better efficiency and cooler running performance, have you noticed any difference in performance across the frequency range and in particular general sound signature?
I did the big no-no. New amp, new diaphragms and new xo's. Due to my hearing loss, I went with tit mid and tweet diaphragms. The music is now crisp, the channels are separated with even more detail. Can't really say which one did it. Maybe the $2500 fuse I put into the amp.

For me, It took everything from the background and sets it up front. Kind of like 3D video. You swear you can touch the instruments.

My first ATI amp was a solid performer. In hind sight, I probably should've kept it. Oh well, someone else gets to experience a piece of equipment that is built like a tank and performs flawlessly.
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I did the big no-no. New amp, new diaphragms and new xo's. Due to my hearing loss, I went with tit mid and tweet diaphragms. The music is now crisp, the channels are separated with even more detail. Can't really say which one did it. Maybe the $2500 fuse I put into the amp.

For me, It took everything from the background and sets it up front. Kind of like 3D video. You swear you can touch the instruments.

My first ATI amp was a solid performer. In hind sight, I probably should've kept it. Oh well, someone else gets to experience a piece of equipment that is built like a tank and performs flawlessly.
It would have been nice to have been able to test and document the improvements at each upgrade stage. However, bottom line and most important is that the sum of the upgrades delivered excellent results! BTW...can you post the source and brand of that fuse?

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Well, I was waiting for the xo's for over a year. Thought I might as well do the diaphragms while I was waiting. Plus, I went from the Academy to the KLF-C7. I also got the umik-1. Just need a boom mic stand to run REW. While waiting for the xo's, I bought a pair of RB-81's and 2 pairs of RP-140SA'so. Even got the brackets to mount the RB's when I deploy the 140's for Atmos. I bought the fuse from a guy in a white van that said "Stereo Components better than AudioQuest." Then I knew the guy had good stuff.
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Well, I was waiting for the xo's for over a year. Thought I might as well do the diaphragms while I was waiting. Plus, I went from the Academy to the KLF-C7. I also got the umik-1. Just need a boom mic stand to run REW. While waiting for the xo's, I bought a pair of RB-81's and 2 pairs of RP-140SA'so. Even got the brackets to mount the RB's when I deploy the 140's for Atmos. I bought the fuse from a guy in a white van that said "Stereo Components better than AudioQuest." Then I knew the guy had good stuff.
Several years ago I went from the RC-62 center to the older/larger C-7 with the stock Poly diaphragm in the horn.IMHO the C7 is a upgrade from the RC-62 for sure and to be honest the C7 is one the best center speakers (for the money) Klipsch has ever made. . I then purchased a Ti diaphragm for the C7 horn from Bob Crites to see if it would blend in OK with my older style Phenolic in my Cornwall mid horn. Too be honest I liked the Ti better it seems to have a brighter tone, which my old ears needed. I also swapped out my old stock networks/cross overs in my 1979 Cornwalls and purchased new one's from Bob Crites and added his CT-125 tweeters This summer my 1989 Heresy II are next for new upgraded networks/cross overs so I don't risk hurting the tweeters. For the money for HT or music with a sub the older KLF 20 or 30 series and matching C7 is hard to beat on the used market.
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Yep...the entire second half of the movie was one big sub fest. And Atmos adds yet another dimension...IMO, one of the better examples...it's unfortunate that only the BluRay and 4K versions contain Atmos...it seems some studios strip Atmos from the rental versions.
I hear you guys, my 4K movie is on the way, can't wait to give subs nice workout.
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Several years ago I went from the RC-62 center to the older/larger C-7 with the stock Poly diaphragm in the horn.IMHO the C7 is a upgrade from the RC-62 for sure and to be honest the C7 is one the best center speakers (for the money) Klipsch has ever made. . I then purchased a Ti diaphragm for the C7 horn from Bob Crites to see if it would blend in OK with my older style Phenolic in my Cornwall mid horn. Too be honest I liked the Ti better it seems to have a brighter tone, which my old ears needed. I also swapped out my old stock networks/cross overs in my 1979 Cornwalls and purchased new one's from Bob Crites and added his CT-125 tweeters This summer my 1989 Heresy II are next for new upgraded networks/cross overs so I don't risk hurting the tweeters. For the money for HT or music with a sub the older KLF 20 or 30 series and matching C7 is hard to beat on the used market.
I LOVE my Chorus II's. I'm old school 3-way guy. I just feel the sound is better from a horn in the midrange than a cone vibrating at whatever freq. I've been thinking of cutting the top of a Chorus II off and adding two 8" woofers to either side. Call it a Chorus II-64.
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I LOVE my Chorus II's. I'm old school 3-way guy. I just feel the sound is better from a horn in the midrange than a cone vibrating at whatever freq. I've been thinking of cutting the top of a Chorus II off and adding two 8" woofers to either side. Call it a Chorus II-64.
I too like a 3 way better (YMMV) as I want to make a DIY sub box to add another 12" woofer to my Heresy II. I have seen others do this on the Klipsch site and secure the Heresy II on top of the box. This also is a way raise up the mid horn to ear level and get them off the floor. Right now I have them on DIY speaker stands so they are up waist high(hurts the bass a little) in the bedroom system. No room in my small den for the Heresy II, they would be my rear surrounds for my Cornwall fronts.

I loved my older Brothers Chorus II and his LaScala he had. My Dad had Corner Horns back in the 1960's when I was a kid so I have brain washed on 3 way horn speakers.

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Just picked up the RP-150 (new for $265/pr shipped). Can't wait to try them out and directly compare them to the RBH Sound r5 bookshelves. Might see if I can get a pair of Chane A1.4's also for review from Jon Lane
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Any recommendations for speaker mounts to mount the RP-160M to walls and the ceiling?
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Any recommendations for speaker mounts to mount the RP-160M to walls and the ceiling?
These seem to be popular in these threads...

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Thanks.

I actually currently use the AM-41 for my JBL Pro LSR305 monitors for my desktop computer setup. But, considering the RP-160M has a base stand built-in, how would the clamp work? Will I have to clamp them close to the rear of the speaker where the base/stand is not protruding the sides as much? And what about using the AM-41 to mount the RP-160M to the ceiling? Will I also have to drill holes in the speakers to secure them?
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Thanks.

I actually currently use the AM-41 for my JBL Pro LSR305 monitors for my desktop computer setup. But, considering the RP-160M has a base stand built-in, how would the clamp work? Will I have to clamp them close to the rear of the speaker where the base/stand is not protruding the sides as much? And what about using the AM-41 to mount the RP-160M to the ceiling? Will I also have to drill holes in the speakers to secure them?
Just remove the base

Also, these look VERY similar (with good reviews) to the Pinpoint one's listed above for 3.5x less. Pinpoint mount offers up to 12" width and 55lbs. VideoSecu one is up to 11" and 35lbs

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Just remove the base

Also, these look VERY similar (with good reviews) to the Pinpoint one's listed above for 3.5x less. Pinpoint mount offers up to 12" width and 55lbs. VideoSecu one is up to 11" and 35lbs

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I have those mounts in your amazon link. They work pretty good. I did have to drill some holes on the bottom of my speakers though to keep them in. Probably because I have them tilted down all the way. If they were kept flat I could have skipped the drilling and just used blue tac.
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Thanks.

I actually currently use the AM-41 for my JBL Pro LSR305 monitors for my desktop computer setup. But, considering the RP-160M has a base stand built-in, how would the clamp work? Will I have to clamp them close to the rear of the speaker where the base/stand is not protruding the sides as much? And what about using the AM-41 to mount the RP-160M to the ceiling? Will I also have to drill holes in the speakers to secure them?
I used the Omnimount ball and clamp ceiling/wall mounts for my RS3-II and the Tech there advised me to use a mount that had more at least 30% more weight capacity then what the speaker weighs for long term use. I went for the 30 lb for a 15 lb speaker and when I add my sides I will do the same as I purchased 4 of them back then.

Below is a 30 lb mount as they use to make them up to 120 lb yes they are more expensive and you have to pre drill a pilot holes in the back of the speaker but I purchased these Klipsch RS3-II to keep so this was not a issue for me. After over 6 years they have not moved as I have aimed down from the wall at the ceiling so they are "Towed In" and aimed down from the ceiling at the back of my head. Look at Paul Klipsch speaker placement for fronts for the "Tow In" so I did the same for my rears. I can use the allen wrench that came with the kits to loosen the cap screw on the ball clamp to move them for small adjustments. There many other options so I thought I would show everyone what I used. YMMV some just Don't want to drill a hole in a new speakers, trust me I thought about that too. But DO purchase a mount that is rated for way more then what the speaker weighs.

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Hi all....I installed an old pair of Klipsch KG2 and I'm wondering what the crossovers should be set at. I used the Onkyo Accu Eq and they came up with something like 160hz. I adjusted them to 80 but I'm in the dark when it comes to crossover settings. These have a passive subwoofer and are probably 20 (or more) years old. The brochure says these are 4 ohm speakers. They are now part of a 5.1.2 system.

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Just as a heads up - when using those with the 160s, they can only really be used at 0° or 90°. An issue I ran into just this weekend. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find anyone that has the long arm version (AM-41L) in stock.
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Hi all....I installed an old pair of Klipsch KG2 and I'm wondering what the crossovers should be set at. I used the Onkyo Accu Eq and they came up with something like 160hz. I adjusted them to 80 but I'm in the dark when it comes to crossover settings. These have a passive subwoofer and are probably 20 (or more) years old. The brochure says these are 4 ohm speakers. They are now part of a 5.1.2 system.

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Here's the old Klipsch product page .pdf file on the KG2's.

http://assets.klipsch.com/files/KG2-brochure.pdf
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Hi all....I installed an old pair of Klipsch KG2 and I'm wondering what the crossovers should be set at. I used the Onkyo Accu Eq and they came up with something like 160hz. I adjusted them to 80 but I'm in the dark when it comes to crossover settings. These have a passive subwoofer and are probably 20 (or more) years old. The brochure says these are 4 ohm speakers. They are now part of a 5.1.2 system.

Any help appreciated.
Crossover settings are really a "what sounds good to you" kind of setting. We'll yell out this or that freq. Just depends on you, your room and your system. 80Hz is the THX standard. I tell people to double the low freq of the speaker and start there. Then, play around with the setting to your needs and wants. Kind of like salt and pepper. You know how you like it to taste. Same thing with your system and speakers. Have fun.
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Crossover settings are really a "what sounds good to you" kind of setting. We'll yell out this or that freq. Just depends on you, your room and your system. 80Hz is the THX standard. I tell people to double the low freq of the speaker and start there. Then, play around with the setting to your needs and wants. Kind of like salt and pepper. You know how you like it to taste. Same thing with your system and speakers. Have fun.
ran the auto setup again and it came up with 200hz...so I just left it there and the speakers sound amazing...big upgrade from the small Monitor Audio rx1's that were there....thanks for the input...
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Here's the old Klipsch product page .pdf file on the KG2's.

http://assets.klipsch.com/files/KG2-brochure.pdf
thanks LCSeminole...very good information...
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I had the Kg 1.2 back in the day. Little things sounded better than the Pioneer and such tower speakers they sold with the rack of components.
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