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Need some help been looking at upgrading my system and needed some help, I was looking at going with RF-7 II's and a RC-64 but at the same time from a cost stand point would going with 4 RP-280's and the RP-450 be the better choice.
All of this is going in a room that is 16' by 26' and being ran off an Onkyo 747.
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Awesome set up. The 160's will be fine for rear surrounds (will they be far back from the MLP?)
I expect to have about 30" from the back wall to the seat (so about 38"-40" from back wall to MLP)

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Also if you have a Fry's nearby they have the 115 on sale every couple months it seems.
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I expect to have about 30" from the back wall to the seat (so about 38"-40" from back wall to MLP)
My rear wall is about 50 inches to my ears and the RP160s do a fine job as surrounds. Looks like yours may be similiar setup as mine?
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Need some help been looking at upgrading my system and needed some help, I was looking at going with RF-7 II's and a RC-64 but at the same time from a cost stand point would going with 4 RP-280's and the RP-450 be the better choice.
All of this is going in a room that is 16' by 26' and being ran off an Onkyo 747.
You'll be happy with the new RP line. The Reference II series is hard to beat. Or wait until the III 7 and 64 come out. Of course, price goes up on each set.
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You'll be happy with the new RP line. The Reference II series is hard to beat. Or wait until the III 7 and 64 come out. Of course, price goes up on each set.
The problem is not many shops carry klipsch anymore cause they sell direct and if they do it's not set up for theater. Right now I'm running 4 polk rti a4 and a csi a4 and didn't know if the 4 towers would be an over kill.
Wasn't really looking at the III's as I know the 7 II's should be moving at some good deals and one place is cutting a good deal on the RP line.
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Going up to RF7II's and a RC64II was one of the best audio moves I ever made.
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Well, wanted a new preamp to pass Dolby Vision and I have been kinda miffed at D&M lately with how they treat people who bought their flagship models, so I ordered an A3060 today. First ever Yamaha, should be fun.
Congrats on your decision! I've had one or two Yamaha's in the distant past...nothing recent...so I'm neutral. I've had good experience with older D+M flagship AVR's...recent models...not as much. Despite the overwhelming favoritism for D+M in these threads, I still favor/prefer Onkyo's power and SQ. I would be interested in your impressions of the 3060 and will look for your posts here and in the Yamaha thread.

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Congrats on your decision! I've had one or two Yamaha's in the distant past...nothing recent...so I'm neutral. I've had good experience with older D+M flagship AVR's...recent models...not as much. Despite the overwhelming favoritism for D+M in these threads, I still favor/prefer Onkyo's power and SQ. I would be interested in your impressions of the 3060 and will look for your posts here and in the Yamaha thread.
Ill let you know. Other than an ONkyo 805 back in the day, I've only had Denon and Marantz stuff since. D&M has lost me as a customer though, I bought a 7702 only to find out it would not pass HDR10, so I was able to sell it and grab a 7702MKII without too much loss, now they are only bringing Dolby Vision to the 7703. Lack of support IMO for a $2200 preamp, so its about time to try another brand. I'll have the A3060 feeding RCA's to my Outlaw Model 7140.
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Going up to RF7II's and a RC64II was one of the best audio moves I ever made.
You, @retro124 and I followed the same path, benefitted from the same journey, and arrived at the same conclusion!
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Ill let you know. Other than an ONkyo 805 back in the day, I've only had Denon and Marantz stuff since. D&M has lost me as a customer though, I bought a 7702 only to find out it would not pass HDR10, so I was able to sell it and grab a 7702MKII without too much loss, now they are only bringing Dolby Vision to the 7703. Lack of support IMO for a $2200 preamp, so its about time to try another brand. I'll have the A3060 feeding RCA's to my Outlaw Model 7140.
In general, I considered going with separates from time to time...then reconsidered (I have a pet peeve with the cost of pre-amps) and stuck with AVR's. Perhaps I'll do an AVR front end as you're doing sometime soon.

Understand your frustration with D+M's position...

As my primary display for movies is a projector, I'll be content with HDR10 for the time being...projectors do not and will not have DV capability for a long time as there are technical challenges to measuring luminance dynamically for PJ's. Maybe this is a sign for me to upgrade my older flat panel.

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Congrats on your decision! I've had one or two Yamaha's in the distant past...nothing recent...so I'm neutral. I've had good experience with older D+M flagship AVR's...recent models...not as much. Despite the overwhelming favoritism for D+M in these threads, I still favor/prefer Onkyo's power and SQ. I would be interested in your impressions of the 3060 and will look for your posts here and in the Yamaha thread.
Is Onkyo doing better with the HDMI handshake then Integra? I have a DTR-60.4 that Integra prepacked the mother board on and it lasted about a year and the problem came back to where I had no video switching anymore. I now have two Integra's that I can't use. My DHC-60.5 is doing ok so far, knock wood. Maybe it is just the AVR's that are problem not the Pre Pro's. Not sure. I have been looking at the Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo and Integra for the new Dolby Atmos AVR's or Pre Pro.

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Is Onkyo doing better with the HDMI handshake then Integra? I have a DTR-60.4 that Integra prepacked the mother board on and it lasted about a year and the problem came back to where I had no video switching anymore. I now have two Integra's that I can't use. My DHC-60.5 is doing ok so far, knock wood. Maybe it is just the AVR's that are problem not the Pre Pro's. Not sure. I have been looking at the Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo and Integra for the new Dolby Atmos AVR's or Pre Pro.
I always thought Integra was Onkyo's higher end line and same company makes both? Or no?

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I always thought Integra was Onkyo's higher end line and same company makes both? Or no?
Yes that is correct and I have been told both were having the problem, but maybe more for Integra. Just sucks, you spend all that money and then you can't us it and it coast an arm and a leg to get it fixed.+
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You, @retro124 and I followed the same path, benefitted from the same journey, and arrived at the same conclusion!
I can't agree more , the best upgrade ever!!! Excellent LCR and what a deal on top of that 👌
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You'll be happy with the new RP line. The Reference II series is hard to beat. Or wait until the III 7 and 64 come out. Of course, price goes up on each set.
The problem is not many shops carry klipsch anymore cause they sell direct and if they do it's not set up for theater. Right now I'm running 4 polk rti a4 and a csi a4 and didn't know if the 4 towers would be an over kill.
Wasn't really looking at the III's as I know the 7 II's should be moving at some good deals and one place is cutting a good deal on the RP line.
Either set will be an excellent choice. If you can afford the Reference II line, jump on that. The RP line is no slouch if you go that route.
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Going up to RF7II's and a RC64II was one of the best audio moves I ever made.
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Need some help been looking at upgrading my system and needed some help, I was looking at going with RF-7 II's and a RC-64 but at the same time from a cost stand point would going with 4 RP-280's and the RP-450 be the better choice.
All of this is going in a room that is 16' by 26' and being ran off an Onkyo 747.
Well RF-7II is better speaker then RP-280 no question about it. Also what is your percentage music/movies?

RF-7II/RC-64II is a keeper there is really nothing like "what if" unless you want go crazy and start looking for Palladium line. After all set ups I went thru I know now I will get RF-7II's/RC-64II in first place and never looked back. Even if I will know I will have to wait longer to get surrounds still this LCR is excellent!!!
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Well RF-7II is better speaker then RP-280 no question about it. Also what is your percentage music/movies?

RF-7II/RC-64II is a keeper there is really nothing like "what if" unless you want go crazy and start looking for Palladium line. After all set ups I went thru I know now I will get RF-7II's/RC-64II in first place and never looked back. Even if I will know I will have to wait longer to get surrounds still this LCR is excellent!!!
100% a fact, I have 4 RF7II'S in my system as well as the RC64II and its jaw dropping sound.
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I get someone not liking Klipsch sound, but if you do and you own RF7II's, you would have to spend a ton of cash to do better, these built in the USA babies arent like the flat panel you have to upgrade every 2-3 years because they add a feature. The II's were a nice jump from the I's, and from what I have read, the III's are not revolutionary, so look for deals.
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I still like my paper speakers. I prefer 3-way over 2-way. A nice midrange to talk to you.
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i have the rp 160s and almost sold on getting the rp280s.

but man you guys keep talking about the r7ii but theyre like 4 times the cost.
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i have the rp 160s and almost sold on getting the rp280s.



but man you guys keep talking about the r7ii but theyre like 4 times the cost.


Let me tell you the RP280 is an excellent speaker. Good punchy bass and nice highs.


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i have the rp 160s and almost sold on getting the rp280s.

but man you guys keep talking about the r7ii but theyre like 4 times the cost.
I was lucky, I ordered a pair of RF7II's from Sound Dist for $1500 and they were supposed to have a minor chip on them (black). Well, he sent me one black and one cherry by accident, and the cherry was so beautiful I returned the black and got a second cherry from him. Ended up with two unmarked and gorgeous speakers for $1500 LOL.

I got the Cherry 64II a little later for $850.

I upgraded from a RF82II and a RC62II, huge difference.
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That is sweet but I tought you had better deal than that to be honest. I as few guys here like @gene4ht end up with RF-7II's /RC-64Ii's purchased all together $2099. Mine was open boxes, center channel is b-stock but can't tell different vs A-stock and all speakers basically untouched. One RF-7II's packaging was demaged but speaker totally fine. other was brand new never opened.

I upgrade it from same same LCR system as you did
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Is Onkyo doing better with the HDMI handshake then Integra? I have a DTR-60.4 that Integra prepacked the mother board on and it lasted about a year and the problem came back to where I had no video switching anymore. I now have two Integra's that I can't use. My DHC-60.5 is doing ok so far, knock wood. Maybe it is just the AVR's that are problem not the Pre Pro's. Not sure. I have been looking at the Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo and Integra for the new Dolby Atmos AVR's or Pre Pro.
Although a bit OT here, I will offer the following: It is very likely that the Onkyo/Integra product lines share common design and manufacturing. HST, the Onkyo/Integra original "handshake issue" was attributed to a TI DSP chip that failed prematurely. The new properly functioning replacement chip, however, apparently fell prey to loosening due to heat. Bottom line, current products with cooler running Class D amps should not encounter these past failures. AVS member @TJMotter has been successfully repairing various Onkyo units and provided the aforementioned information. See his post here...

Onkyo acknowledges failed units and extending warrranties until 2018

WRT to your current situation, a least one other Integra owner posted that he was also able to receive repairs under the program that Onkyo is offering through 2018. It would be prudent to re-contact Integra to understand your options with your current failed units. Or, you may want to contact TJMotter to see if he could offer any insight/assistance. Good luck...
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I'm still very happy with my RP series speakers! No speaker in the world could match these for what I paid.

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I'm still very happy with my RP series speakers! No speaker in the world could match these for what I paid.
Your comment can also be used maybe even more on your subs. That was excellent deal!!!

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wow ,i haven't posted in a while boys .i still come here and read up all the time ....
so i made a big change to my system last year and thought to share with my klipsch brothers ,i sold my emo xpa 5 and added some crown class d 2502 for my klf 30 s and 3 crowns 1502 for the the second pair 30 s and 20 s and c7 ....dollar for dollar the crowns are not only as good but better than the emo imo .
i can really keep cranking and cranking ,i did a emo vs crown xls 1502 comparison and to me both sounded powerful, crown is lowder as its 100 w more
crowns are so much more tweakable to match your source ,dim all the lights or show the meters lights and the best one is
they are 8 lbs so u can carry 10 crowns vs the emo lol .
this is just to encourage more people to not waste their money at extra fancy power amps that waste energy and heat up the whole room
class d pro amps have come a long way and are silent,efficent and very very powerful ...just for fun i did bridge my amp to the klf 30 s and wowww the bass was so powerful it was like having 4 hsu vtf15 h mk 2 ,no wonder emo is going class d in their new amps ....
try it before you knock it ,i did and i m getting 3 more xls 1502 to bridge all my klfs as i love the sound

fronts klipsch klf-30
center klipsch klf c-7
wides klipsch klf-20 s
surrounds klipsch klf-30 s
onkyo txnr-818
3 crown xls 1502 1 xls 2502, HSU vtf-15 mk 2
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Well RF-7II is better speaker then RP-280 no question about it. Also what is your percentage music/movies?

RF-7II/RC-64II is a keeper there is really nothing like "what if" unless you want go crazy and start looking for Palladium line. After all set ups I went thru I know now I will get RF-7II's/RC-64II in first place and never looked back. Even if I will know I will have to wait longer to get surrounds still this LCR is excellent!!!
Pretty much all movies, just didn't know how soon the price of the 7 II and 64 would come down and right now I can get all the RP stuff(4 towers and center) for about $200 less then the RF stuff. I've heard some other stuff but it's just that I was trying to keep from buying an amp right now and klipsch doesn't need as much power to much push them.
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