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If all he can afford are 260's, they will work fine for him.
I never said other wise. I made a point that was based on personal experience, and you said, naahh.
Both things are true:
1. The RP-260f sound great and are fine for most people.
2. If you listen at high levels, you will need to either cross at 130 Hz, or go up a model.
Both statements are true.

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I never said other wise. I made a point that was based on personal experience, and you said, naahh.
Both things are true:
1. The RP-260f sound great and are fine for most people.
2. If you listen at high levels, you will need to either cross at 130 Hz, or go up a model.
Both statements are true.
Statement #2 is completely false. You can use any Klipsch speaker at the rated power without an additional HP filter.

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The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
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Statement #2 is completely false. You can use any Klipsch speaker at the rated power without an additional HP filter.

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I know you work for Klipsch, but I have rp-260f as surrounds because they would make horrible sounds that sounded like bottoming out until I progressively moved the crossover up to 130 Hz. That is with a 275 wpc amp that is never going to be feeding dirty power to Klipsch speakers. The worst example is(by far) James Gang Funk # 49. However, in general, this was a problem.
Hey, you got a sale out of it. I bought the 280f based on me knowing the RF-82 II didn't have any problem with this, and I've been happy since.
Trust me, I wouldn't have spent another $900 on speakers, if I didn't need to. I've spent quite enough since last September, thank you.
Unlike many Klipsch buyers, I mostly listen to music, a lot of it from the sixties and seventies. It's possible that some of the more poorly recorded tracks cause the RP-260f stress. I don't know. As soon as RP-280f went on sale(the next month), I bought them, moved the RP-260f to surround, and have had no problems since.
I'm a fan of Klipsch speakers, and certainly wouldn't lie about my >personal< experience with them.

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The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
How so? That I speak the truth, and it bothers people? Have you used the RP-260f?
How is it hyprocrisy to report my >personal< experience?
I listen to HDtracks, rips of my cd's DVD-A, SACD and Blu Ray audio and the occasional MP3 when I can't get others, and that is my experience.

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How so? That I speak the truth, and it bothers people? Have you used the RP-260f?
How is it hyprocrisy to report my >personal< experience?
I listen to HDtracks, rips of my cd's DVD-A, SACD and Blu Ray audio and the occasional MP3 when I can't get others, and that is my experience.
I have lots of questions, but I am just letting this dog lie. Your statement should not be considered fact, and it should have been followed with what you posted just now as a personal experience.

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I said hypocrisy because when I offered my opinion of the 450 over the 440 everyone had me for lunch. Certain speakers are made with other speakers to go with them to compliment them. With 275w/ch, I could make my speakers make weird sounds. Now, when I offer the opinion that the 260 is fine for a person, you want him to go with the 280. There are people out there using BOOKSHELVES for main speakers and are happy as hell. How do YOU know the guy won't be happy with 260? Do you know how he listens to music or what he can afford or have space for? "Naahh." You're wrong. In your own words.
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I said hypocrisy because when I offered my opinion of the 450 over the 440 everyone had me for lunch. Certain speakers are made with other speakers to go with them to compliment them. With 275w/ch, I could make my speakers make weird sounds. Now, when I offer the opinion that the 260 is fine for a person, you want him to go with the 280. There are people out there using BOOKSHELVES for main speakers and are happy as hell. How do YOU know the guy won't be happy with 260? Do you know how he listens to music or what he can afford or have space for? "Naahh." You're wrong. In your own words.
I never said that the 440c couldn't do it's job, I said I wanted bigger drivers as a personal preference. I've had 3 Klipsch centers, and they all were excellent, I changed due to personal preference for moar, and wanting to keep my speakers matchy matchy.

As far as the rest, all of that can be true, and none of it makes my statement untrue.
It's very true that it's possible I was driving them over their rated limits.
I in no way am saying the 260f are bad speakers. I made a point that if you listen excessively loudly, you probably should step up to the RP-280f. Nothing you have said changes that other than being called a liar by you and Forte. Strangely enough, I don't appreciate that. You are talking points that are true, and don't make my point wrong.

I never said that the 260f wouldn't be appropriate for him, I said, and still say, if you listen at excessive levels, the 280f are better. I don't understand why that uncontroversial statement would make you and Forte's head spin.

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I have lots of questions, but I am just letting this dog lie. Your statement should not be considered fact, and it should have been followed with what you posted just now as a personal experience.

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If you really do, you can PM me, and I can set the RP-260f up next week and try to answer them.
The answer probably is very simply I am driving them above their rated limits. Nothing either of you have said gainsays my point. It is simple logic even, that the RP-280f can handle bass at higher levels.
I am trying to sell more expensive speakers, you should be happy!

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Officially a Klipsch owner now after getting my setup completed this weekend.
My setup includes:

Fronts: RP-280F
Center: RP-450C
Surround sides: RP-150M
Surround backs: RP-150M
Subwoofer: HSU VTF3-MK5
TV: Vizio P65
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Officially a Klipsch owner now after getting my setup completed this weekend.
My setup includes:

Fronts: RP-280F
Center: RP-450C
Surround sides: RP-150M
Surround backs: RP-150M
Subwoofer: HSU VTF3-MK5
TV: Vizio P65
Blu-ray: Oppo UHD 203
Congrats, very nice setup! That subwoofer looks familiar.. so does the TV (I have P60)


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RSB 6 Soundbar with a different Sub?

I just bought the Reference RSB 6 and wondering if I could pair a different sub with it if I wanted to?
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Just pulled the trigger on:

RF-7ii's (replacing Bic FH56-BAR)
RC-64ii (replacing Bic FH56-BAR)
RP-260M (replacing RS-400)

My 2 day long research was this or the RP-280 package deal. I hope I made the right decision as I keep looking at reviews and have no where to go to listen!!
Awesome...congrats....you made a wise decision.

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Officially a Klipsch owner now after getting my setup completed this weekend.
My setup includes:

Fronts: RP-280F
Center: RP-450C
Surround sides: RP-150M
Surround backs: RP-150M
Subwoofer: HSU VTF3-MK5
TV: Vizio P65
Blu-ray: Oppo UHD 203

Very nice system...congrats.

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Can anyone tell me the difference between the Atmos RP-140SA and the new R-14SA. I see the new one is $100 cheaper.
Are they basically the same in output.
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Can anyone tell me the difference between the Atmos RP-140SA and the new R-14SA. I see the new one is $100 cheaper.
Are they basically the same in output.
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The R-14SA is part of the Reference line and the RP-140SA is part of the Reference Premiere line. Then other than the $100.00 difference, the R-14SA has a spun copper IMG woofer where the RP-140SA has a spun copper cerametallic woofer, the R-14SA has a 3/4" Aluminum LTS Tweeter where the RP-140SA has a 1" Titanium LTS Tweeter, the R-14SA has a power handling Peak of 100 watts where the RP-140SA has a peak of 200W. The overall weight of the R-14SA is 5.5 pounds where the RP-140SA weighs 7.6 pounds.

I looked into this as well because I have the RP-140SA speakers and wanted to know what the differences were. Hope this helps.
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The R-14SA is part of the Reference line and the RP-140SA is part of the Reference Premiere line. Then other than the $100.00 difference, the R-14SA has a spun copper IMG woofer where the RP-140SA has a spun copper cerametallic woofer, the R-14SA has a 3/4" Aluminum LTS Tweeter where the RP-140SA has a 1" Titanium LTS Tweeter, the R-14SA has a power handling Peak of 100 watts where the RP-140SA has a peak of 200W. The overall weight of the R-14SA is 5.5 pounds where the RP-140SA weighs 7.6 pounds.

I looked into this as well because I have the RP-140SA speakers and wanted to know what the differences were. Hope this helps.
Also, the RP line has a rubber tweeter horn where the R line is plastic.
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The R-14SA is part of the Reference line and the RP-140SA is part of the Reference Premiere line. Then other than the $100.00 difference, the R-14SA has a spun copper IMG woofer where the RP-140SA has a spun copper cerametallic woofer, the R-14SA has a 3/4" Aluminum LTS Tweeter where the RP-140SA has a 1" Titanium LTS Tweeter, the R-14SA has a power handling Peak of 100 watts where the RP-140SA has a peak of 200W. The overall weight of the R-14SA is 5.5 pounds where the RP-140SA weighs 7.6 pounds.

I looked into this as well because I have the RP-140SA speakers and wanted to know what the differences were. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like the RP line is better.
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I have a pair of RC-5s in maple finish in pretty much perfect condition, along with an RC-7 in black ash. I really like them for TV and HT, but they are on the bright side for my music preferences: heavy metal and older rock like Pink Floyd. I also don't like that if I move out of the sweet spot even a couple of feet, the sound changes drastically. In my new home, my setup will not allow for the RF-5s permanently (I'm still using them temporarily, but need to find another option), so I'm looking for an on-wall or bookshelf option that I can mount to the wall. It will all go above the fireplace, but I'm removing the mantel so that it can all be mounted lower than most above-fireplace setups. That said, are any of Klipsch's newer bookshelf-sized offerings an upgrade to the RC-5s, while being a little less bright and having at least a little better off-axis performance?
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I'm needing a new center channel speaker. I'm looking at the R-25C and the RP-250C. How much better is the RP over the other? The price is within my budget. And how does the RP sound vs the R25C?
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I'm needing a new center channel speaker. I'm looking at the R-25C and the RP-250C. How much better is the RP over the other? The price is within my budget. And how does the RP sound vs the R25C?
I've heard the RP, and it's great. I haven't heard the R-25c, but I'm pretty sure you'll like the RP better, and it's on sale right now for only a little more at authorized Internet retailers like Crutchfield. At Crutchfield, you could buy and audition both, and send the loser back for $10 within 60 days.

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I've heard the RP, and it's great. I haven't heard the R-25c, but I'm pretty sure you'll like the RP better, and it's on sale right now for only a little more at authorized Internet retailers like Crutchfield. At Crutchfield, you could buy and audition both, and send the loser back for $10 within 60 days.
Since I'm not as experienced as some people in here when it comes to speaker set up. I'm assuming since I have some Klipsch bookshelves they should go as front instead of rear speakers? I'm just on a budget when it comes to affordability. But at the same time I want speakers to match and sound good in the space I have. My set up is in my man cave upstairs. The room is more of a dorm like room. But my only complaint is when it's too loud my wife complains that's it too loud and to turn down the sound. The house has really thin walls and sound carrys throughout the house.
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