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post #9061 of 37493 Old 12-16-2009, 07:06 AM
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Hey guys. I was wondering how are the RB-81's and how do they compare to the bigger reference speakers and also the synergy line(B-3). I'm wondering because I have a chance to get 2 new B-3,s a C-3, and 2 sets of S-3(seven speakerstotal) for about $700. Would you get that, or spend the money on the RB-81's and just add more reference speakers as the time goes.

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its up to you, are you in a hurry to get a surround system, or can you wait it out. because i can tell ya the RB-81's are no joke. i have a set of RB-81's, and RB-51's and love them.
so, if it were me to do all over, i would invest in the reference and build up...

A agree with WudChuk. If it was me I would buy the RB-81s and build from there.

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A agree with WudChuk. If it was me I would buy the RB-81s and build from there.

Wow they must be really good for you to recommend them over a complete set, I will have to go check them out.

How does the RB-81's compare to the F-3's?
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Wow they must be really good for you to recommend them over a complete set, I will have to go check them out.

The RB-81 is a good bookshelf speaker, but if you are looking at Home Theater you need to look at the whole package's cost vs budget...IOW what are you willing to spend on this project and how long until you can afford/accumulate the other speakers and Sub?

Fwiw, if you go with the RB-81s you would want the RC-62 center channel and a decent set of surrounds and that is going to set you back another $600 to $800 or so before you add in a subwoofer.
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The RB-81 is a good bookshelf speaker, but if you are looking at Home Theater you need to look at the whole package's cost vs budget...IOW what are you willing to spend on this project and how long until you can afford/accumulate the other speakers and Sub?

Fwiw, if you go with the RB-81s you would want the RC-62 center channel and a decent set of surrounds and that is going to set you back another $600 to $800 or so before you add in a subwoofer.

and if you can find a good deal, it would be worth for the price to look at the RF-82's...

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What setting do you all use for listening to music?

I have a sony receiver and we typically listen to music on multi stereo.

I have an F-3 System, and honestly the S-3 surrounds with the dual horns produce more high end than the towers do.. I'm use to listening to music with a component set in a car with a tweeter right in my ear, so I like the highs...

I personally think music sounds like crap on a PLII setting.. I have the C-3 Center, but it just doesn't seem to keep up..
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What setting do you all use for listening to music?

I have a sony receiver and we typically listen to music on multi stereo.

I have an F-3 System, and honestly the S-3 surrounds with the dual horns produce more high end than the towers do.. I'm use to listening to music with a component set in a car with a tweeter right in my ear, so I like the highs...

I personally think music sounds like crap on a PLII setting.. I have the C-3 Center, but it just doesn't seem to keep up..

try neo : 6 music mode if the receiver has it..

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I like what PLII does for stereo with the center minimized, but I hardly listen to anything outside of multi-channel audio. Discovering the stuff was a blessing and a curse.
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It's going to be a work in progress for a while, but I think I'm off to a good start. The RF-82's sound great, and that monster RC-64 is beastly. What a great center channel. Now time to save up for a subwoofer and surrounds!


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Nice setup.
Looks like you are a cowboy fan. Not a great month to be cowboy fan.
Few questions...

1. Is RC64 better than RC62. I ordered RC62 because RC64 was costing me twice as much.

2. Is it recommended to place TV directly above the center speaker? I have small stand myself and would consider this myself.

3. Where did you buy the stands on both sides. I will need one of those.
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Nice setup.
Looks like you are a cowboy fan. Not a great month to be cowboy fan.
Few questions...

1. Is RC64 better than RC62. I ordered RC62 because RC64 was costing me twice as much.

2. Is it recommended to place TV directly above the center speaker? I have small stand myself and would consider this myself.

3. Where did you buy the stands on both sides. I will need one of those.


Thanks....and yeah...it hasn't been a good time to be a Cowboy fan since 1995. Would be nice to win a playoff game before the decade is over, but I don't see that happening. Now, on to your questions.

1. When I went in to the store to audition the speakers, the first one I heard was the RC-62, since that was more within my budget. I thought it sounded great to be honest. Very solid center channel. I have a friend that can get rather ridiculous deals on equipment at a shop in West Palm Beach, and he's real big on putting a lot of money into your center channel. He said he could get me a real good deal on the RC-64, but I was iffy on whether or not it was worth the price. Well, after I was finished listening to the RC-62, they demoed the RC-64. This thing is a monster. So I bit and grabbed the RC-64 and I'm quite happy with it. Don't get me wrong, you won't be disappointed with the 62, it was the first one I heard and I thought it was an extremely solid center channel. I went with the 64 mainly because of the discount I was able to get, and it is the top center channel for the reference line. If not, I would have been very happy with the 62.

2. I don't believe it is recommended to place the TV on top of the speaker. I was planning to place the center on the bottom shelf of the stand and angle it up, but unfortunately there wasn't enough clearance due to some metal reinforcement bars just underneath the middle shelf that cannot be seen or moved. The TV on top of the speaker is temporary as I am in the process of finding a stand that will accommodate both my TV and the RC-64.


3. I bought the stands at Target about a year ago. They were on sale for about $75 each, but I'm not sure if they still carry them. I've seen some similar things at Target, Walmart, etc.

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I have had the pleasure of owing both the RC-62 and RC-64. I started with the 62 because of space considerations but upgraded to the 64 a few months later. For what it is worth if you are wondering if the 64 is worth the extra money the simple answer is YES. Also if you are considering both you will actually save money if you just buy the 64 instead of upgrading to it later like I did. Don't get me wrong, the 62 is a very nice center speaker but I think the 64 is better.
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I have had the pleasure of owing both the RC-62 and RC-64. I started with the 62 because of space considerations but upgraded to the 64 a few months later. For what it is worth if you are wondering if the 64 is worth the extra money the simple answer is YES. Also if you are considering both you will actually save money if you just buy the 64 instead of upgrading to it later like I did. Don't get me wrong, the 62 is a very nice center speaker but I think the 64 is better.

What about it do you feel is better? Could you elaborate please?

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It's going to be a work in progress for a while, but I think I'm off to a good start. The RF-82's sound great, and that monster RC-64 is beastly. What a great center channel. Now time to save up for a subwoofer and surrounds!


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A cowboys fan in Florida, anyways, if you think the RF82's sound great "my previous setup", try the RF83's, which are in another stratosphere "my current towers", and they are perfectly matched with the RC64 and RS62's, you can check out my previous and current setup in the links below. Nice setup by the way, and time to root for a real football team
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What about it do you feel is better? Could you elaborate please?

I can't speak for Corybud, but for me, when I listened to the 62 and 64, I just felt the 64 had a lot more detail. Everything is so crisp....dialogue was strong and easy to understand. The 62 sounded real strong and I was ready to buy it as soon as I heard it....but when they switched over to the 64 the difference in sound was substantial. It's a powerful speaker. I was watching Iron Man on blu ray the other day and there's a scene where he is flying over Afghanistan and he is shot out of the sky by a tank. When he hits the ground I could hear the little pieces of sand and gravel. The clarity is pretty amazing with the 64. I don't feel like I am missing anything in from the audio mix. I guess you just have to hear it for yourself to come to your own conclusion. Either way, the 64 is by far one of the best center speakers I have listened to.

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What about it do you feel is better? Could you elaborate please?

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A cowboys fan in Florida, anyways, if you think the RF82's sound great "my previous setup", try the RF83's, which are in another stratosphere "my current towers", and they are perfectly matched with the RC64 and RS62's, you can check out my previous and current setup in the links below. Nice setup by the way, and time to root for a real football team

I can only imagine how the 83's sound. I didn't even bother listening to them since they were way out of my price range. And they are monster speakers. Hopefully down the line I can save up for the 83's and move the 82's either as side surrounds or for some two channel audio in another room.

As for the Cowboys comment, I lived in Dallas for quite some time when I was younger, so I grew up with the Cowboys. Not much of a Dolphins fan, Miami sports fans stink. When you say time to root for a new team, I hope you mean the Giants and not the Jets...NY hasn't had the best of luck this year in football lol. You have the Knicks and the Nets....ugh nevermind. At least you have baseball to cling to lol.

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I can't speak for Corybud, but for me, when I listened to the 62 and 64, I just felt the 64 had a lot more detail. Everything is so crisp....dialogue was strong and easy to understand. The 62 sounded real strong and I was ready to buy it as soon as I heard it....but when they switched over to the 64 the difference in sound was substantial. It's a powerful speaker. I was watching Iron Man on blu ray the other day and there's a scene where he is flying over Afghanistan and he is shot out of the sky by a tank. When he hits the ground I could hear the little pieces of sand and gravel. The clarity is pretty amazing with the 64. I don't feel like I am missing anything in from the audio mix. I guess you just have to hear it for yourself to come to your own conclusion. Either way, the 64 is by far one of the best center speakers I have listened to.

Thanks for the response. I would love to demo one, but unfortunately my local Klipsch dealer that actually had a showroom closed down as they were part of the Tweeter chain. It's probably a good thing, though, as I can't afford to do much more upgrading any time soon. Maybe in a few months I'll look into it some more.

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Thanks for the response. I would love to demo one, but unfortunately my local Klipsch dealer that actually had a showroom closed down as they were part of the Tweeter chain. It's probably a good thing, though, as I can't afford to do much more upgrading any time soon. Maybe in a few months I'll look into it some more.

Completely understand. I had to drive out to West Palm Beach to find a descent Klipsch dealer that carried the Reference line. That's quite a distance from Miami. Either way, I'm sure I would have been very happy had I purchased the RC-62. I really thought it sounded great. By the way Steve, how is that new Elite working out for you?

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Completely understand. I had to drive out to West Palm Beach to find a descent Klipsch dealer that carried the Reference line. That's quite a distance from Miami. Either way, I'm sure I would have been very happy had I purchased the RC-62. I really thought it sounded great. By the way Steve, how is that new Elite working out for you?

It's completely awesome so far. IMO it seems to have a 'less processed' sound to it. My wife described it as sounding warmer (with no prompting from me). It definitely has a lot more power than my old Onkyo did and there seems to be no end to the tweaks you can make to it.

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I can't speak for Corybud, but for me, when I listened to the 62 and 64, I just felt the 64 had a lot more detail. Everything is so crisp....dialogue was strong and easy to understand. The 62 sounded real strong and I was ready to buy it as soon as I heard it....but when they switched over to the 64 the difference in sound was substantial. It's a powerful speaker. I was watching Iron Man on blu ray the other day and there's a scene where he is flying over Afghanistan and he is shot out of the sky by a tank. When he hits the ground I could hear the little pieces of sand and gravel. The clarity is pretty amazing with the 64. I don't feel like I am missing anything in from the audio mix. I guess you just have to hear it for yourself to come to your own conclusion. Either way, the 64 is by far one of the best center speakers I have listened to.


RF83 and RC64 might be the ideal setup but they are costing me almost 2 times the price of RF82+RC62.
I am already way over my initial budget and I don't even have a media room.
So I might just have to settle for these and I am pretty sure I will be happy considering that I am listening to my TV speakers right now.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
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RF83 and RC64 might be the ideal setup but they are costing me almost 2 times the price of RF82+RC62.
I am already way over my initial budget and I don't even have a media room.
So I might just have to settle for these and I am pretty sure I will be happy considering that I am listening to my TV speakers right now.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Don't worry, you will be extremely happy with those speakers. They handle the job quite well. I love my RF-82's. And like I said, the RC-62 is still a hell of a center channel.

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RF83 and RC64 might be the ideal setup but they are costing me almost 2 times the price of RF82+RC62.
I am already way over my initial budget and I don't even have a media room.
So I might just have to settle for these and I am pretty sure I will be happy considering that I am listening to my TV speakers right now.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.


yeah dont worry about it -- i have the RF 82's and RC62 center - work great together - i am very happy with mines - they can handle alot of power - i heard the 83's and yes they are Excellent - i didnt have the room for them - or else i might have gotten those - i never heard the larger 64 center - but even if i did - dont have the room of that center - the 62 is pretty decent size - not a small center at all - - i cant argue that the 64 is better - i am sure it is - price was a factor for me also - but making it fit in my apt. was a hugh factor - it has to fit first

its a great set up - the RF 82 system -
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Hey Guys, I can understand getting what is new in the stores, as that is all one can hear. It might also be worth investigating the great speakers from Klipsch that are no longer made, and may very well outperform the newer models. Such as the Fortes, Cornwalls and Chorus, the KLF series. If you got the room and an understanding partner, the Klipschhorn and Lascalas.
I have the Klipsch Epic CF3's. These were only made bewtween 1994 & 1996. They are 100dB efficient, have a big 9"x13" horn in between two 10" pro drivers, bass way down into the mid 20hz range, and can slam you like a concert monitor when cranked. They have a beautiful unrestrained sound at any volume you care to listen to them. They were $2000 when new and can be had for about $600 now, and you can resell them for the same money when and if you want to move on. Most of the older Klipsch hold their value quite well. My Klipsch C-7 center channel is one of the best centers I have ever heard. It uses 2 8" drivers with a fairly big horn as well, it is 99dB efficient and plays with great clarity and power. I payed $275 for it about 4 years ago on Ebay, and is worth more now. It is a nice plus to buy something that actually appreciates in value. All of this is of course, imho.
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yeah dont worry about it -- i have the RF 82's and RC62 center - work great together - i am very happy with mines - they can handle alot of power - i heard the 83's and yes they are Excellent - i didnt have the room for them - or else i might have gotten those - i never heard the larger 64 center - but even if i did - dont have the room of that center - the 62 is pretty decent size - not a small center at all - - i cant argue that the 64 is better - i am sure it is - price was a factor for me also - but making it fit in my apt. was a hugh factor - it has to fit first

its a great set up - the RF 82 system -

Yes RC64 looked huge with 4 tweeters. RC62 has only two. It is almost twice as big as RC62 and that is probably the reason for twice the price.
RF83 speakers also look very huge. They would probably overpower my living room.

Thanks for the reassuring words.
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All these raving reviews of the 64 always make me wonder if it would be a better performer then my KL650? Has anyone had reason to compare those two?

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All these raving reviews of the 64 always make me wonder if it would be a better performer then my KL650? Has anyone had reason to compare those two?

Not if you have the KL650s as mains....The RC-64 is voice matched to the RF-83s.
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What movie is that with the hazy bluish lit muscle guy with lights for eyes? By the way RF-82's sound great, I can't imagine how much better the 83's could be!
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"Watchmen" I think is what you're refering too.
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What movie is that with the hazy bluish lit muscle guy with lights for eyes? By the way RF-82's sound great, I can't imagine how much better the 83's could be!

The movie is Watchmen, great flick, and the RF83's are night and day better than the RF82's, the RF83's are just a different beast.
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I can only imagine how the 83's sound. I didn't even bother listening to them since they were way out of my price range. And they are monster speakers. Hopefully down the line I can save up for the 83's and move the 82's either as side surrounds or for some two channel audio in another room.

As for the Cowboys comment, I lived in Dallas for quite some time when I was younger, so I grew up with the Cowboys. Not much of a Dolphins fan, Miami sports fans stink. When you say time to root for a new team, I hope you mean the Giants and not the Jets...NY hasn't had the best of luck this year in football lol. You have the Knicks and the Nets....ugh nevermind. At least you have baseball to cling to lol.

yes my NY Giants have gone down the toilet this year, time for some new blood I guess, who would have thought your Boys can't beat the Gmen and then go out and beat the Saints at their stadium, it has been a crazy NFL season. I still think it's the Vikes and Colts in the SB.
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[quote=cybertec;17758681]The movie is Watchmen, great flick, and the RF83's are night and day better than the RF82's, the RF83's are just a different beast.[/QUOTE

i have to agree with you on the RF83's - i heard them - excellent - i got the 82's - most i could do with the space i have in my apt.

but i have to say - the movie Watchmen - i though it was boring and lacking and too too long with not enough action at all - i found myself fastfowarding just to get to the end already -

not at all what i expected - i mean - IRON MAN - thats a different story -

anyway - dont want to start a tic for tac - just suprised with watchmen - i was expecting much better -

now if i can only find a good movie to watch from netflix
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