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The center channel isn't going to sound the same. The towers are going to sound more alive being ported. More bass out of those also will make the center sound like it's not capable. The center is mainly for dialogue.
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So what does everyone use to wall mount the RB-81 IIs? I can't help it I have to order a Denon receiver so I can do 9.1/.2.

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The center channel isn't going to sound the same. The towers are going to sound more alive being ported. More bass out of those also will make the center sound like it's not capable. The center is mainly for dialogue.
A lot more than just dialogue comes from the ol' center!

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How do the rs-7s sound compared to the rs-42s? Do you have the grills for the rf-7s? I think if you try a few more methods you can get that dent out!
The RS7's are more in the face compared to RS42's I have the grills off on all of my speakers. I will just buy another woofer and call it a day.

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The center channel isn't going to sound the same. The towers are going to sound more alive being ported. More bass out of those also will make the center sound like it's not capable. The center is mainly for dialogue.
The RC-7 is rear ported just like the RF-7. We are not talking about bass performance here but the tweeter performance. The tweeter on the RC-7 sounds warmer/more neutral or natural than the RF-7's tweeter. Since they both share the same tweeter, why don't they sound the same?
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The RC-7 is rear ported just like the RF-7. We are not talking about bass performance here but the tweeter performance. The tweeter on the RC-7 sounds warmer/more neutral or natural than the RF-7's tweeter. Since they both share the same tweeter, why don't they sound the same?

Could be your room (sorry) of the more likely the difference in the crossovers. If I am not mistaken the center has that weird 2.5way crossover, while the floorstanders will not. RF7s have always been a in your face type of loudspeakers anyways...sounds like you need to join the klipsch forums and maybe search out DeanG upgraded crossovers for the RF7's to tone down the highs.

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Chas have you considered any deang work?
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I just added a Rotel RMB 1095 power amp to my SC-35 (now a pre/pro) to drive RF-5s, RC-7 and RS-7s. I cannot believe how much "cleaner" and detailed the sound is. Even my wife, who was giving me grief about spending more $$$$ on the home theater, noticed the, dare I say, drastic improvement. Most improved was the center channel for dialog, but the whole system really lit up. The soundstage grew to a new dimension. I am absolutely thrilled.

I always thought since the Klipsch reference series were so efficient that extra power was unnecessary. Of course, reading AVS where many tout the advantages of "more power" as Tim the Tool Man used to say, I got the upgraditus bug. Totally worth every penny.

We watched "Unstoppable" last night and even with the huge soundtrack the dialog was completely understandable. That train came through our theater more than once and we don't even live in PA.

headroom has to be experienced to be understood .. And Yes it quite thrilling to hear a expanded headroom & soundstage on a set of Klipsch that you have listened to for years !

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The RS7's are more in the face compared to RS42's I have the grills off on all of my speakers. I will just buy another woofer and call it a day.

make a sono tube sub outta the old woof

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The RC-7 is rear ported just like the RF-7. We are not talking about bass performance here but the tweeter performance. The tweeter on the RC-7 sounds warmer/more neutral or natural than the RF-7's tweeter. Since they both share the same tweeter, why don't they sound the same?

have U used a Audyssey product to calibrate your system ?

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The RS7's are more in the face compared to RS42's I have the grills off on all of my speakers. I will just buy another woofer and call it a day.

Its not worth it in my opinion. As long as it does not affect performance who cares! Plus all your woofers have been broke in together so their sonic signatures are closer matches than a new woofer would be. Spend the money on crossover upgrades!
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Chas have you considered any deang work?

What?

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What?

On the Klipsch Forums, there is a user named DeanG.. he make aftermarket crossover networks for RF7 speakers..

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A lot more than just dialogue comes from the ol' center!

I said mainly, not strictly.
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On the Klipsch Forums, there is a user named DeanG.. he make aftermarket crossover networks for RF7 speakers..

Yeah there a Huge discussion about how the RF-7 cross-over could be improved & many had theirs redone & really liked the difference . To the point where Klipsch themselves redesigned the RF-7 that is now the RF-7II the only real difference IIRC is the cross over , +Plus the woofs don't have a dust covers now

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On the Klipsch Forums, there is a user named DeanG.. he make aftermarket crossover networks for RF7 speakers..

I don't know him or what good doing mods on crossovers will do for me.

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I don't know him or what good doing mods on crossovers will do for me.

actually the crossovers reco's are for user names (Kain).. my response was for your comment of "what"

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I don't know him or what good doing mods on crossovers will do for me.

Everyone who has gotten them noticed an immediate improvement in sound. Search DeanG over at klipsch forums. I know he does RF-7 and RC-7 not sure about the RS but it is possible
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Everyone who has gotten them noticed an immediate improvement in sound. Search DeanG over at klipsch forums. I know he does RF-7 and RC-7 not sure about the RS but it is possible

They sound good enough to me as they are.

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What are you powering your speakers with?

Onkyo TX-NR5008.

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We are not talking about bass performance here but the tweeter performance. The tweeter on the RC-7 sounds warmer/more neutral or natural than the RF-7's tweeter. Since they both share the same tweeter, why don't they sound the same?

Same for the RF-82/RC-62

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Could be your room (sorry) of the more likely the difference in the crossovers. If I am not mistaken the center has that weird 2.5way crossover, while the floorstanders will not. RF7s have always been a in your face type of loudspeakers anyways...sounds like you need to join the klipsch forums and maybe search out DeanG upgraded crossovers for the RF7's to tone down the highs.

I don't know if this would also apply to the RF-82/RC-62, but I don't think I need to tone down the 82s. If anything, I'd probably want a different crossover for the RC-62 because I don't have any off-axis LPs, so the "2.5" crossover is kinda pointless in my case.

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have U used a Audyssey product to calibrate your system ?

I know not directed at me, but I used Audyssey on the 5008, which is MultiEQ XT32.

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Everyone who has gotten them noticed an immediate improvement in sound. Search DeanG over at klipsch forums. I know he does RF-7 and RC-7 not sure about the RS but it is possible

I need to look into this on the Klipsch forum as well.
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I dont think that he does rf-82 if that is what you are thinking
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e2g_ who shipped your speakers? UPS? If it is a really small chip a sharpie should cover it near perfectly. If it is larger a sharpie is still all i can recommend. Post a pic here and on the klipsch forum when you get a chance. Chas remember the price to performance you got with your rf7s compared to the new rf-7ii. Your system looks great, did you get your rs-7s yet?

BIT, and whoever else commented, I will follow up soon. I am waiting to hear back from them. It is not a small chip. It is about 1-1.5inches long slit and I can see it quite clearly from 15 feet away (the difference between the two colours is quite obvious). I honestly don't know how I feel about taking a sharpie next to these speakers, especially when the MSRP is at what it is. Maybe, $200 speakers, yeah. Honestly, I would like to take the chance and exchange them if I could but I am waiting to hear back from them.

Hmmm...

The speakers are packaged well (with one exception) and I am still scratching my head to figure out how can that have happened. In comparison to the packaging of my RF-82s, Klipsch uses the plastic over the speaker grill, plastic over the whole speaker, and 3 styrofoams (to, middle, bottom). What I did not see is the use of the hard cardboard support beams that is fixed in the corners of the box. My RC-64II had them but these did not. Does anyone else no what I am talking about as I am trying to figure out if it was removed before shipping to bring the weight down? It's quite strange to me that they would ditch these unless it was something new (Audiovoxx?) being implemented.
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They sound good enough to me as they are.

Some people think a HTIB sounds good. All depends on your priorities, I suppose.
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WOW

Klipsch speakers need a custom crossover to sound good enough?

One might as well buy BIC speakers, and update their drivers, wiring, and add bracing...

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WOW

Klipsch speakers need a custom crossover to sound good?

One might as well buy BIC speakers, and update their drivers, wiring, and add bracing...

The irony

Not exactly sure which post you are responding to but it seems to me that Klipsch (as with anything) is built with a thought towards a price point. To that end, virtually anything can be improved upon if cost is no object.
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BIT, and whoever else commented, I will follow up soon. I am waiting to hear back from them. It is not a small chip. It is about 1-1.5inches long slit and I can see it quite clearly from 15 feet away (the difference between the two colours is quite obvious). I honestly don't know how I feel about taking a sharpie next to these speakers, especially when the MSRP is at what it is. Maybe, $200 speakers, yeah. Honestly, I would like to take the chance and exchange them if I could but I am waiting to hear back from them.

Hmmm...

The speakers are packaged well (with one exception) and I am still scratching my head to figure out how can that have happened. In comparison to the packaging of my RF-82s, Klipsch uses the plastic over the speaker grill, plastic over the whole speaker, and 3 styrofoams (to, middle, bottom). What I did not see is the use of the hard cardboard support beams that is fixed in the corners of the box. My RC-64II had them but these did not. Does anyone else no what I am talking about as I am trying to figure out if it was removed before shipping to bring the weight down? It's quite strange to me that they would ditch these unless it was something new (Audiovoxx?) being implemented.

JUST last night I took a black sharpie to the corners of my new RF-7 IIs where the speaker grill had rubbed the edges/corners so that a fine white (well wood color) line was showing and was clearly visible from far away. Took the grill off, used the sharpie on the line (wipe with cloth after to remove excess, lightly) and now there's no visible line. Good to go.

Not very happy about it either but since it's no longer visible it's not something I'll be returning the speakers about.
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WOW

Klipsch speakers need a custom crossover to sound good enough?

One might as well buy BIC speakers, and update their drivers, wiring, and add bracing...

I assume you are trying to be sarcastic, but this isn't out of the norm, at all. Many speakers, even the "acclaimed" Sierra's have a tweeter and crossover update available for those who want it. Nobody ever said it was a necessity.
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I assume you are trying to be sarcastic, but this isn't out of the norm, at all. Many speakers, even the "acclaimed" Sierra's have a tweeter and crossover update available for those who want it. Nobody ever said it was a necessity.

My point was, why buy speakers that need improvement (as insinuated by several posters, especially amheck) when one can just buy a better model/brand? Sounds like the X-Box sales strategy. (now, THAT was sarcastic)

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So what does everyone use to wall mount the RB-81 IIs? I can't help it I have to order a Denon receiver so I can do 9.1/.2.

I explored a few options to wall mount some RB-61's, and ended up building shelves that matched my entertainment center. That's not the cleanest possible look, but I trimmed them out so they look pretty good.
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My point was, why buy speakers that need improvement (as insinuated by several posters, especially amheck) when one can just buy a better model/brand? Sounds like the X-Box sales strategy. (now, THAT was sarcastic)

What post of mine made you think that? I haven't heard a Klipsch speaker is probably 6-8 years so I'm not in any position to make a statement like that. I'm looking back and can't find anywhere where I implied that the Klipsch speakers need improvement.
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