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Maybe they ordering them from Denmark.We are paying first,then they paying to Dynaudio company.I can't imagine other way why so long.Interesting thing ,older s1.4 version cost more than S1.4LE.May be Dynaudio selling out LE versions before new contour range will appear in shops
Compared to the original price of S1.4, the LE version is also cheaper where I live. I think the S1.4 LE has a lot of competition so the price is lowered to match. Anyway you've had the 1.4 LE for some days now, how are they doing?
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I was amazed at how well the Scansonic MB 2.5's performed after he put them where the C4's were!
I think that the Naim N272/250dr has a lot to do with what you were hearing.
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Compared to the original price of S1.4, the LE version is also cheaper where I live. I think the S1.4 LE has a lot of competition so the price is lowered to match. Anyway you've had the 1.4 LE for some days now, how are they doing?
well compared to original version,LE is a bit more refined in bass,more punch,imaging and sounstage,stereo and instrument separation is better,floating in the air.High frequencies sound a bit different than on s1.4 maybe of new coating.I would say all this makes it sounds more musical

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Just wanted to share my impressions, and ask for some advice...

Impressions: went in to listen to Emit M10,... WOW! My Klipsch are no match. The ease of listening and the detail and uncluttered sound is awesome! And still somehow they're more engaging than the Klipsch's. I am very impressed with these speakers.

Advice: The DALI Zensor 1's have recently come to my attention, and I'm curious if anyone has compared these to the Emit/ DM/ Excites speakers and how do they compare. Are they more/less forward sounding than the Dyn's, and how are their soft dome tweeters in comparison? I cannot audition the DALI's, no dealers near me, so relying on advise here. Thanks guys!
I have and the Zensor 1 & 3, both excellent speakers for the money, that being said I have heard great things about the Emits M10 and from what I hear they are great bank for the buck from Dynaudio. Great reviews as well, frankly I should have went for a pair of those in my office verses the Xeo2.. The Xeo 2 where superb for what they do without having to buy associated equipment to use with them, but more likely for some thing to go wrong that is for sure.

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Dyn audiophiles...need some help. I'm moving into a townhome with a living room size of 17x16. The challenge is that it's not a "rectangle" shape to get my HT setup the way it is currently. So the idea is to move my HT to the basement AND go for Xeo 2 or Xeo 4 for the living room. So the help I need is suggestions/recommendations/comments on which is better considering I currently have Focus 260/210.


Will Xeo 2 or Xeo 4 give enough output and bass for EDM & Rock music coz for movies I will use 260/210? I understand it's not going to be as good as Focus XD and I'm fine with it. Idea of having Xeo is that I can have them on stands and they won't need a lot of space. Lastly, what about the placement of Xeo...is it similar to Focus and have to be atleast 8feet apart for optimal performance?
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Will Xeo 2 or Xeo 4 give enough output and bass for EDM & Rock music coz for movies I will use 260/210? I understand it's not going to be as good as Focus XD and I'm fine with it. Idea of having Xeo is that I can have them on stands and they won't need a lot of space. Lastly, what about the placement of Xeo...is it similar to Focus and have to be atleast 8feet apart for optimal performance?
The Xeo 4s will hit higher SPLs. They also have a better-built cabinet and higher-quality drivers. If you're planning to wall mount, the Xeo 2 DSP is supposed to handle that well, and it also bumps up the bass at lower SPLs to make the speaker sound fuller. That being said, the Xeo 2s got quite loud during my demo. If possible, you should try to find a pair to listen to. If you add a Connect+Link or Hub+Link, you could add a sub which I'm sure would help fill out the lower octave.

If you plan to stand-mount them, you might also want to consider the Xeo 6 since it effectively takes up the same amount of room as the Xeo 4 on a stand.
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The Xeo 4s will hit higher SPLs. They also have a better-built cabinet and higher-quality drivers. If you're planning to wall mount, the Xeo 2 DSP is supposed to handle that well, and it also bumps up the bass at lower SPLs to make the speaker sound fuller. That being said, the Xeo 2s got quite loud during my demo. If possible, you should try to find a pair to listen to. If you add a Connect+Link or Hub+Link, you could add a sub which I'm sure would help fill out the lower octave.

If you plan to stand-mount them, you might also want to consider the Xeo 6 since it effectively takes up the same amount of room as the Xeo 4 on a stand.


I like the idea of having xeo 2 wall mounted. It takes care of the space problem.
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I like the idea of having xeo 2 wall mounted. It takes care of the space problem.
That's my plan once kids enter the picture; just gotta keep in mind you'll have power cords running down the wall to wherever. If you don't spend the additional cash for a connect/hub, you'll also have some sort of cable running to the speaker as well.

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That's my plan once kids enter the picture; just gotta keep in mind you'll have power cords running down the wall to wherever. If you don't spend the additional cash for a connect/hub, you'll also have some sort of cable running to the speaker as well.
I have a 2 1/2 year old son and YES he runs all over the place. :-) Will definitely go for a hub (worth the investment)...I read about it and it says that hub can be placed anywhere and the speakers will connect. Don't know if anyone in this group has a xeo 2 setup and can share experience with range and any challenges with the output.
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The Xeo 4s will hit higher SPLs. They also have a better-built cabinet and higher-quality drivers. If you're planning to wall mount, the Xeo 2 DSP is supposed to handle that well, and it also bumps up the bass at lower SPLs to make the speaker sound fuller. That being said, the Xeo 2s got quite loud during my demo. If possible, you should try to find a pair to listen to. If you add a Connect+Link or Hub+Link, you could add a sub which I'm sure would help fill out the lower octave.

If you plan to stand-mount them, you might also want to consider the Xeo 6 since it effectively takes up the same amount of room as the Xeo 4 on a stand.
Are you sure the Xeo 4's will hit higher spl's?I thought the Xeo 2 has 65 watts/driver versus 50/driver on the Xeo 4's.
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Are you sure the Xeo 4's will hit higher spl's?I thought the Xeo 2 has 65 watts/driver versus 50/driver on the Xeo 4's.
Yeah. I thought the Xeo 2s would be louder as well, but it's due to the driver design and cabinet volume. The larger cabinet of the Xeo 4s allow for it to perform more efficiently.

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Yeah. I thought the Xeo 2s would be louder as well, but it's due to the driver design and cabinet volume. The larger cabinet of the Xeo 4s allow for it to perform more efficiently.
Ok,that makes sense...i always wondered if the Xeo 2's were kind of undercutting the sales of the 4's,given the cheaper price and more power,myself i much prefer the looks of the Xeo 4.

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Ok,that makes sense...i always wondered if the Xeo 2's were kind of undercutting the sales of the 4's,given the cheaper price and more power,myself i much prefer the looks of the Xeo 4.
Yeah. I'll probably be picking up a pair of the Xeo 2s since I have no interest in drilling into a pair of $2400 speakers. I know they make clamping mounts, but I think I'd like something a bit more secure. Saving $800 also sounds good to me.

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Yeah. I'll probably be picking up a pair of the Xeo 2s since I have no interest in drilling into a pair of $2400 speakers. I know they make clamping mounts, but I think I'd like something a bit more secure. Saving $800 also sounds good to me.
The wall mounts of Xeo 2 are pretty sturdy...aluminum made. It has options of adjusting speaker on top of them...placement wise.
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The wall mounts of Xeo 2 are pretty sturdy...aluminum made. It has options of adjusting speaker on top of them...placement wise.
Oops, I meant to say that I'm going with the Xeo 2s over the Xeo 4s so I don't have to drill into speakers that cost $800 more. I'd use clamping mounts with the Xeo 4s if I ended up getting those.

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The wall mounts of Xeo 2 are pretty sturdy...aluminum made. It has options of adjusting speaker on top of them...placement wise.
Oops, I meant to say that I'm going with the Xeo 2s over the Xeo 4s so I don't have to drill into speakers that cost $800 more. I'd use clamping mounts with the Xeo 4s if I ended up getting those.
I haven't heard XEO 2 but I'm very happy with my XEO 3. I'm sure the XEO 4 are nice but the XEO 2 seem to be more in line with the XD range as far as function. I would like to compare them to my XEO 3 in my room.
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I haven't heard XEO 2 but I'm very happy with my XEO 3. I'm sure the XEO 4 are nice but the XEO 2 seem to be more in line with the XD range as far as function. I would like to compare them to my XEO 3 in my room.
I think Xeo 2 will make more sense given their price point vs. performance value in the space I will have. I will have my Focus 260/210 combo in basement to take care of movies. Probably will add a sub later.
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Just checking, for those who have seen the woofer hitting it's limits or heard the flapping sound, is there any long term deleterious effect ? If it's a once off thing?
I want to be cautious when using my speakers..
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well compared to original version,LE is a bit more refined in bass,more punch,imaging and sounstage,stereo and instrument separation is better,floating in the air.High frequencies sound a bit different than on s1.4 maybe of new coating.I would say all this makes it sounds more musical
What amp are you using with them? If they have more punch then that's very good. I'm using the original 1.4s and they are less punchy than current Dyn speakers... need very powerful amp to punch.

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Just checking, for those who have seen the woofer hitting it's limits or heard the flapping sound, is there any long term deleterious effect ? If it's a once off thing?
I want to be cautious when using my speakers..
There can be a damage to the woofer if it is driven to the point of flapping, but sometimes the damage is not easy to spot by listening. For example the woofer will still work but a bit less output, or make some noise at some specific FR...
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Just checking, for those who have seen the woofer hitting it's limits or heard the flapping sound, is there any long term deleterious effect ? If it's a once off thing?
I want to be cautious when using my speakers..
It is definitely not good for the speaker,when i had my c1's and this had happened a few times,i mentioned it to my dealer...he said "that is considered ABUSE" by driving them so hard.I was a bit shocked by what he said,i had just shelled out 8500 bucks for these speakers,that he recommended to me,and i can not even crank them up very loud without hitting their limits?
Have you had it happen to you now Pete?To me,that is a flaw with the c1's...it just seems to happen WAY too easily,and it made me think that i needed some gigantic mono-blocks to power them properly.I also noticed that after this happened a few times,it seemed to be easier to get them to "pop",so maybe i did damage something in them by doing this(not on purpose).After all this,i was kind of walking on eggshells when turning them up,having to be very cautious of the volume all the time,and to me they did not sound as good as my 160's i had at the time,so they may very well of been messed up by this "flapping" as you call it.
I couldn't unload them soon enough,and am very happy with their replacement(xd 600's).
I would be very careful with the volume on the c1's,especially when using them in home-theater...it is easy to drive them too hard and not notice,because the subs may drown out the popping before you can really notice that it is happening.

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Thanks, just being cautious, since so much has been posted
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I have a 2 1/2 year old son and YES he runs all over the place. :-) Will definitely go for a hub (worth the investment)...I read about it and it says that hub can be placed anywhere and the speakers will connect. Don't know if anyone in this group has a xeo 2 setup and can share experience with range and any challenges with the output.
I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter who also runs all over the place. I didn't want to part with my C2s, so my solution was to use one of these:

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I added a couple of two-panel extensions so it runs across the whole front of my living room. Keeps her away from the speakers, amp, fireplace, and a/v cabinet. And doesn't look too bad either, especially compared to most baby gates.

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Yeah. I'll probably be picking up a pair of the Xeo 2s since I have no interest in drilling into a pair of $2400 speakers. I know they make clamping mounts, but I think I'd like something a bit more secure. Saving $800 also sounds good to me.
I use B-Tech BT77 clamping wall mounts for 3 of the surround speakers in my HT setup. They are extremely secure and rated to hold 55 lb. speakers (assuming they are screwed into a wall stud). I had a family member bash into one speaker while chasing my daughter around and it put a nice divot in his shoulder but the speaker didn't budge. After looking at the pictures of the Xeo 2 wall mount, I doubt it will be anywhere near as secure. It looks like it was designed for a low profile appearance mainly. So I wouldn't let clamping wall mounts be a deciding factor between the Xeo 2 and 4.
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...my solution was to use one of these... I use B-Tech BT77 clamping wall mounts for 3 of the surround speakers in my HT setup.
Awesome tips; thanks! I'm guessing that you did not drill into the speakers?


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I use B-Tech BT77 clamping wall mounts for 3 of the surround speakers in my HT setup. They are extremely secure and rated to hold 55 lb.
I use exactly the same brackets for my surrounds and indeed they are very well designed.

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Got the Focus 160.
Set them up and of course managed to press in the tweeter on one of them.
I'm such an idiot sometimes.
Looking in the box I couldn't tell what was front and back as the speakers were wrapped in that Dynaudio cloth.
Then I could see there was a red cross of a sort visible on the one side in tweeter height and so I knew that was the front and that it was some kind of protection set in place for the tweeter to not get damaged during transportation.
I lifted the speaker up from the box ever so carefully and placed it on the table.
Then when I removed the cloth, I discovered that the red cross was the tape over the stuff you place in the bass port at the back.
And I had pushed in the tweeter.....

Oh well.

First impressions:

Using Direct on my receiver and watching Game of Thrones I can now hear the dialogue crystal clear. On the X14 I have to set Dynamic volume to Light, otherwise dialogue has very low volume compared to background music and sfx. Not so with the 160. Dialogue is very loud too! Volume wise everything sounds so natursl and "in the right place", I mean dislogue, sfx and background music.

I can hear so many "low volume" details in the background now which I couldn't hear before with the X14. Reminds me of when I had a NAD M51 DAC home for demoing with my receiver - it really is exactly as if a high quality DAC has been slapped in between the tv optical out and the receiver.

Also when audio is panned to either side of the stereo soundfield, it's very clearly audiblr. It's as if I have moved my speaker positions so they are further apart, but they are not, they are in the exact same place as the X14 were.

I'll post more if I discover more.
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What amp are you using with them? If they have more punch then that's very good. I'm using the original 1.4s and they are less punchy than current Dyn speakers... need very powerful amp to punch.
Now I am using krell kav500i .Tried synthesis roma 37dc+ and Technics power se-a3000 and se-a3000preamp ,While both sounds good,the krell has full control over the sound with sweet highs,punch and nice imaging and soundstage.Original version were very smooth and flat sounding as S5.4.Needed more volume and lively amp to open the sound.
LE sounds good at lower volume,when pushed louder they sound even better.Enjoyable sound.
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