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I hope i don't offend anyone by talking about "other" speakers on the Dyn thread,but i was a little sad to see the Neat sx1's go back,after a brief 5 day demo...very musical speaker,and a great match with my gear.I could easily live with those long term...but the next contender to win me over is in the house,Canadian made Taksim reference 3a's,i said they are BIG ,but wow,have not unboxed them yet,here is a pic of them sitting on my granite slabs,where the Neats sat for a few days,still waiting on a release date on the Contour c 20's....meantime,the demo's continue.
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I hope i don't offend anyone by talking about "other" speakers on the Dyn thread,but i was a little sad to see the Neat sx1's go back,after a brief 5 day demo...very musical speaker,and a great match with my gear.I could easily live with those long term...but the next contender to win me over is in the house,Canadian made Taksim reference 3a's,i said they are BIG ,but wow,have not unboxed them yet,here is a pic of them sitting on my granite slabs,where the Neats sat for a few days,still waiting on a release date on the Contour c 20's....meantime,the demo's continue.
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I hope i don't offend anyone by talking about "other" speakers on the Dyn thread,but i was a little sad to see the Neat sx1's go back,after a brief 5 day demo...very musical speaker,and a great match with my gear.I could easily live with those long term...but the next contender to win me over is in the house,Canadian made Taksim reference 3a's,i said they are BIG ,but wow,have not unboxed them yet,here is a pic of them sitting on my granite slabs,where the Neats sat for a few days,still waiting on a release date on the Contour c 20's....meantime,the demo's continue.
Did the sx1 really dig down below 30hz as the specs say?
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I hope i don't offend anyone by talking about "other" speakers on the Dyn thread,but i was a little sad to see the Neat sx1's go back,after a brief 5 day demo...very musical speaker,and a great match with my gear.I could easily live with those long term...but the next contender to win me over is in the house,Canadian made Taksim reference 3a's,i said they are BIG ,but wow,have not unboxed them yet,here is a pic of them sitting on my granite slabs,where the Neats sat for a few days,still waiting on a release date on the Contour c 20's....meantime,the demo's continue.
I think you are more insane then I am

i dare you to get some Totem Elements too
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I'm keeping my Focus 160 as the 3.4's are way too big visually for my room.
60 cm. out from the back wall they worked fine musically and they do sound glorious.
But my living room is pretty small to begin with, so the two things mentioned above combined means I feel I'm choking in the room with speakers that big and that far out from the wall.
What's more I have had Naim Nac 202/Nap 200 home for testing, but they're going back too.
I prefer the sound of the Hegel H160 by a large margin.
The Naim set do not sound very good with my 160's.
Sound is bright, bass is anemic and sound is kind of muddied - at least in comparison with the Hegel.
So...final setup will be Focus 160 and Hegel H160.

Dealer wanted me to test Contour 1.4LE but I politely refused.
Focus 160/Hegel H160 sounds wonderful to me, so really, no need for testing 1.4LE.

I'm sorry for involving you guys in this buying process and the decisions I have taken along the way up to now.
It's probably been rather chaotic to read about with decisions being altered all the time.
Naim isnt for everyone, Dyns aren't for everyone either! I'm glad you found a combination that works for you.

My experience with the focus line and my Naim gear was that I found the 160s brighter then both the X16s and the 260s. I had the X16s with the Nait 5i, when I upgraded to the 160s I felt musically I went backwards and I was bottoming out the speakers. Then I brought home the 260s to demo and loved the combo. Wife wouldnt let me do the switch tho. So I added the Naim XS, which was better with the 160s but I felt I was still missing some warmth I had previously, so I added the Jolida tube dac, which added some warmth and fluidity. Then I switched the 160s and 260s, loved that combo I had now, XS and 260s, sold the Jolida and just used the Oppo for cd playback. When I switched the XS out for the U2, I was scared to alter the sound; but I feel like the overall sound is neutral and musical, and the convenience of the U2 makes it hard to give up.

There's nothing out there that does what it does. Simaudio has the Ace, but it lacks the power and CD player, Musical Fidelity has the Encore 225 but it doesn't support wifi(I'm sure this could be done with something like an AirPort Extreme) or tidal or Spotify that I can tell and there's no phone/tablet app or HT bypass which is a must for me. Linn has the streamer/pre and wifi and tidal/Spotify support and the app, but no HT bypass and its only a pre-amp not an integrated; so add the amp expense also.

The only NAC/NAP setup I've heard is the 272/250 combo with Focal Sopra 2 and it's pretty nice.

I'd love to hear a Hegel H160 with my 260s, not sure I'd switch cause the U2 just does so much. But hey you never know! Like amaturholic said... It's a journey!
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I hope i don't offend anyone by talking about "other" speakers on the Dyn thread,but i was a little sad to see the Neat sx1's go back,after a brief 5 day demo...very musical speaker,and a great match with my gear.I could easily live with those long term...but the next contender to win me over is in the house,Canadian made Taksim reference 3a's,i said they are BIG ,but wow,have not unboxed them yet,here is a pic of them sitting on my granite slabs,where the Neats sat for a few days,still waiting on a release date on the Contour c 20's....meantime,the demo's continue.

I find it strange that Reference 3A does not provide any tolerance (+/-dB) on their FR specs, especially for a speaker (Taksim) that lists for $6990/pair. An interesting design, however, that uses a single coupling capacitor to protect the tweeter from low frequencies and a woofer with no crossover network.
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Did the sx1 really dig down below 30hz as the specs say?
I did not take any measurements ,but I think they dig deeper than c1's and focus 160's..30 hz range would not surprise me, pretty remarkable for a small tower really.

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I find it strange that Reference 3A does not provide any tolerance (+/-dB) on their FR specs, especially for a speaker (Taksim) that lists for $6990/pair. An interesting design, however, that uses a single coupling capacitor to protect the tweeter from low frequencies and a woofer with no crossover network.
I do not know a lot about the Taksims, other than what I have read, and what my dealer, who has been in the industry for 35 years tells me about them.I have heard them at low volumes. He has lived with C1 platinum's for 2 years, and focal sopra 1's for the last year...and said that these would be the speakers he has in his home, if his wife would let him get them past the front door, I guess she hates their "look" so i want to try them, when it comes to audio, my ears are the deciding factor, not eyes...to a point.I hope to unbox them tomorrow,i will post my initial impressions.
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I do not know a lot about the Taksims, other than what I have read, and what my dealer, who has been in the industry for 35 years tells me about them.I have heard them at low volumes. He has lived with C1 platinum's for 2 years, and focal sopra 1's for the last year...and said that these would be the speakers he has in his home, if his wife would let him get them past the front door, I guess she hates their "look" so i want to try them, when it comes to audio, my ears are the deciding factor, not eyes...to a point.I hope to unbox them tomorrow,i will post my initial impressions.
Tony I agree - let your ears not eyes be the judge. Like I've said before I hated the looks of the Confidence series but they sure do sound damn good. IMO the Confidence is a style you either love ore hate - but to me it was the sound quality. After all I owned the C1 and C1 Sig's for over 5 years combined.

Never be afraid to speak your mind regarding other speaker manufacturers. Like Steve said Dyn's aren't for everyone just like Magico or Raidho. It's your ears and wallet. But I think most everyone (even me) will agree Dyn's are world class from the Emit on up to the Evidence.
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I find it strange that Reference 3A does not provide any tolerance (+/-dB) on their FR specs, especially for a speaker (Taksim) that lists for $6990/pair. An interesting design, however, that uses a single coupling capacitor to protect the tweeter from low frequencies and a woofer with no crossover network.

Less x-over parts means a more resolving speaker or should I just say no filtering. Vince Bruzzese from Totem would say it's designer's dream. I own Element Fires from Totem and they don't have x-over pats in the woofer section and they sound fabulous.
That little white speaker features a one way 3.5"driver designed in Italy but the actual speaker is from a Canadian manufacturer and does not have any x-over parts in it, They are quite impressive and they go as deep as 50hz, it was filling that room very nicely.

Now Dynaudio has mastered the art of x-over so it's like having no x-over parts almost.
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Tony I agree - let your ears not eyes be the judge. Like I've said before I hated the looks of the Confidence series but they sure do sound damn good. IMO the Confidence is a style you either love ore hate - but to me it was the sound quality. After all I owned the C1 and C1 Sig's for over 5 years combined.

Never be afraid to speak your mind regarding other speaker manufacturers. Like Steve said Dyn's aren't for everyone just like Magico or Raidho. It's your ears and wallet. But I think most everyone (even me) will agree Dyn's are world class from the Emit on up to the Evidence.
I was't a fan of the looks of the C1 that much looked half finished to me but sounded awesome, however I think the C2 and C4 are sexy as hell looking, and go away from you typical average everyday box look which I find easy to do and boring. Now the Raidho/Scansonic are sexy but they stoled that look from other manufactures but made it even better. I think a XT-1 and Contour 20 would be a good test at Tylers new place!

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I was't a fan of the looks of the C1 that much looked half finished to me but sounded awesome, however I think the C2 and C4 are sexy as hell looking, and go away from you typical average everyday box look which I find easy to do and boring. Now the Raidho/Scansonic are sexy but they stoled that look from other manufactures but made it even better. I think a XT-1 and Contour 20 would be a good test at Tylers new place!
Tyler has all the new Contours on order. Should be a good seller at its price points.
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Less x-over parts means a more resolving speaker or should I just say no filtering. Vince Bruzzese from Totem would say it's designer's dream. I own Element Fires from Totem and they don't have x-over pats in the woofer section and they sound fabulous.
That little white speaker features a one way 3.5"driver designed in Italy but the actual speaker is from a Canadian manufacturer and does not have any x-over parts in it, They are quite impressive and they go as deep as 50hz, it was filling that room very nicely.

Now Dynaudio has mastered the art of x-over so it's like having no x-over parts almost.
I am looking forward to setting up the Taskim's tomorrow (I am at work right now) because I kind of have a new found love of jazz and classical music ,and they are supposed to be super transparent, and work well with these type's of music,i have also heard one of those single driver speakers, sounded very natural...using a small tube amp.

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I may have to take a trip down to listen to them. I'm still contemplating replacing the 260's with C20's for surround duty...
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I thought those contours looked too big for your room,and i have said before,the focus 160 is MY reference moniter,until i hear something better.I am glad you are happy with your decision,in defence of Naim gear,i have not heard the 202/200 combo,but have read that it is dryer than a desert,not their best offering for sure.Also Naim gear needs to be powered up for a few weeks to sound its best.
Thanks Yes, those Contours really are huge! They didn't look that big in the store, but there they were standing in a room with several other speakers that were even bigger so that probably explains it.

In further defense of Naim gear I gotta mention that I was taken completely by (positive) surprise when I listened to them for the very first time.
In reviews I had of course read that Naim gear was supposed to be very good rhythmically and timing-wise, but still, the 202/200 combo really rocked as far as that was concerned.
Music sounded chaotic in a good way if that makes sense, it was like you didn't just listen to an album, you listened to some musicians actually playing together.

As for 202/200 not being their best offering, it's a shame we hifi fans don't sort of have the complete picture when buying new gear - I mean, we have to pick a few units of all the possible choices, then perhaps try these at home before we finally make a decision. It would be great if you knew in advance what every single interesting piece of gear would sound like in your home, so you could make a 100% informed decision. For example what if the Naim UnitiLite would have been even more to my liking than the Hegel H160! Fact is I will never know...that's a shame. I don't know what it's like in the country you guys are from, but here in Denmark it's quite expensive to send back expensive electronics as it has to be send in a special way because normal package service means a package is only insured for an amount of around $728. Sending back the 202/200 which came in two seperate packages cost me $93. So you can't really afford to demo much different gear in your home because it's expensive to ship back. Still I thought the 202/200 combo had an attractive price (50% of new price) as it was used units, and it was sold by a dealer and thus came with full 2 year warranty. And since I'd read so many positive reviews and seen you guys in here praise Naim, I wanted to give it a shot.

If I had known that Naim gear needs to be powered up for a few weeks before sounding it's best, I would perhaps have kept the 202/200 for 10 days or so before making a decision to return it or not (the law here in Denmark gives consumers a 14 days window to return stuff bought on the net in a Danish store)

I'm glad you like your 160s I'm amazed how punchy and deep the bass of the 160s is with the Hegel H160. My surround amp cannot make them sound anything like that!
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"So...final setup will be Focus 160 and Hegel H160.

Dealer wanted me to test Contour 1.4LE but I politely refused.
Focus 160/Hegel H160 sounds wonderful to me, so really, no need for testing 1.4LE"


I'm actually kind of happy you came to this decision, and not just because I, too, love my Focus 160 but because I think you made an excellent decision to buy them in the first place, and then a seemingly rushed decision to replace them with the Contours.

The 160 should be a speaker you can live happily with for a *long* time, and you've paired it with an excellent amp in the Hegel. Now put your wallet away, my friend, and enjoy!

Also, I don't mean to rock the boat, and I know these things tend to work in cycles, but man it's also nice to see something besides NAIM get some love in this thread.
Thank you Yes, it didn't make much sense to buy the Contours when I'd only just got the Focus 160! I just fell completely in love with their design when seeing them in the shop. It's true that they are essentially just another pair of black boxes (!), however the wide foot they are standing on, the design of the front baffle and the reversal of tweeter and woofers do actually make them stand out IMO. And they do sound excellent. They need a larger room than what I have though, as I suspect many larger floorstanding speakers do. Only (thin) Excite X32/X34 etc. floorstanding models can work visually in my small living room, I think.

I'm glad you also like your 160s and think the Hegel is a good match with them
Your advice about putting away my wallet and start enjoying what I have now is good, I will, thanks
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