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You guys and gals worried about margins have obviously never owned a business. The dealers are the people showing, selling and installing the products. They are NOT out to rob you, they are there to help. Dynaudio would fail miserably as an Internet direct company.

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So let me get this straight. Just a week ago some of you were making an argument on how dealers work on small margins, while some others and I stated it's a 40% average, and now that a price sheet is posted the margins are spot on?

I think what is spot on.....is that dealers that won't move off MSRP will continually lose customers. That is what is spot on.
Maybe you need to go back and re-read those posts, because that wasn't the argument.

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You guys and gals worried about margins have obviously never owned a business. The dealers are the people showing, selling and installing the products. They are NOT out to rob you, they are there to help. Dynaudio would fail miserably as an Internet direct company.
I have to imagine...there are plenty of business owners in this thread. I've owned 2, including currently. But you're missing the point.

I...as the business owner; should get to decide, how I want to run my business. If Dyn says: the cost to you, of C1 Plats...is $5250; and you should make $3500, on the sale of a pair. Well...that's their suggestion; as in MSRP...Manufactures Suggested Retail Price. But every situation is different.

If a new customer comes in...a dozen times. Auditions for hours. You hold his hand, for weeks...before you even get down to brass tacks. Sure...charge and/or discount him, what you think is fair; because of the time spent and costs associated with that sale. And you'll either get the sale, and your time and investment will have been paid for; or even after all that...he'll walk out the door, and buy from someone else.

But if a guy calls, or emails you; says...I heard these at the show, and my buddy has a pair. I'm in; now it's just a matter of price. Do you really "deserve", to make $3500...for a phone call? And I'm not talking about, selling outside your area; I'm just talking about, not getting your a$$ slapped...for a calculated, business decision (and for the record...I am hardly, singling Dyn out here; this is about the industry in general. Nor, am I suggesting...Dyn become ID ).

Like I said...I don't even care about the margins. The free market, takes care of itself. If dealers decide, they don't like the Dyn model; they'll stop carrying it, and then Dyn (or again, whomever...will be in trouble, yes?). But like I said; it's the hypocrisy, that sometimes turns my stomach (and I'm far from squeamish).

I'm not into naming names; but c'mon...we all know a certain dealer or dealers, who discount and outside their territory. And I can guarantee you...they're sitting down to steaks and scotches, with Mick, Otto, and Wilfried.

Again; I know this will rub some nerves raw, as I am want to do on occasion. But this is NOT an attack, on Dynaudio (whose speakers I still regard highly). In fact...many of you know me, to be a PMC guy; and their distribution model...at least in the US...is even more screwed-up, lol.

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I have to imagine...there are plenty of business owners in this thread. I've owned 2, including currently. But you're missing the point.

I...as the business owner; should get to decide, how I want to run my business. If Dyn says: the cost to you, of C1 Plats...is $5250; and you should make $3500, on the sale of a pair. Well...that's their suggestion; as in MSRP...Manufactures Suggested Retail Price. But every situation is different.

If a new customer comes in...a dozen times. Auditions for hours. You hold his hand, for weeks...before you even get down to brass tacks. Sure...charge and/or discount him, what you think is fair; because of the time spent and costs associated with that sale. And you'll either get the sale, and your time and investment will have been paid for; or even after all that...he'll walk out the door, and buy from someone else.

But if a guy calls, or emails you; says...I heard these at the show, and my buddy has a pair. I'm in; now it's just a matter of price. Do you really "deserve", to make $3500...for a phone call? And I'm not talking about, selling outside your area; I'm just talking about, not getting your a$$ slapped...for a calculated, business decision (and for the record...I am hardly, singling Dyn out here; this is about the industry in general. Nor, am I suggesting...Dyn become ID ).

Like I said...I don't even care about the margins. The free market, takes care of itself. If dealers decide, they don't like the Dyn model; they'll stop carrying it, and then Dyn (or again, whomever...will be in trouble, yes?). But like I said; it's the hypocrisy, that sometimes turns my stomach (and I'm far from squeamish).

I'm not into naming names; but c'mon...we all know a certain dealer or dealers, who discount and outside their territory. And I can guarantee you...they're sitting down to steaks and scotches, with Mick, Otto, and Wilfried.

Again; I know this will rub some nerves raw, as I am want to do on occasion. But this is NOT an attack, on Dynaudio (whose speakers I still regard highly). In fact...many of you know me, to be a PMC guy; and their distribution model...at least in the US...is even more screwed-up, lol.

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