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Well I guess you can sell your center channel then,I will be keeping mine.
Even I were to buy Contour C30s at some point I won't get rid of my 210C! I have 5 people watching tv and so having the dialogue pinned to the center of the tv is important. Not to mention to upgrade to the C25 or Confidence Center just isn't justifiable to me. For its size and performance its value is unmatched.

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Even I were to buy Contour C30s at some point I won't get rid of my 210C! I have 5 people watching tv and so having the dialogue pinned to the center of the tv is important. Not to mention to upgrade to the C25 or Confidence Center just isn't justifiable to me. For its size and performance its value is unmatched.
I don't get it,first you call my post incorrect,where I say that I believe having a center is more accurate than "phantom center"...so I say you might as well sell it then if there is no difference.Then you say there is no way you would get rid of it because you like the pin point center image???Am I missing something here?

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My experience in this hobby so far is that regardless of whether you spent $5k or $50k on your system, people will think you’re nuts for spending whatever you did.

I picked up my Focus 160s for $2k when they were discontinued. They offer more performance per dollar than anything else I’ve owned. I was raving about their value at a party to a couple friends who are somewhat into audio and the other people around the party thought I was crazy for spending $2k on speakers. I told them the last pair of speakers I had downstairs cost $9200 (list) and then they look at me like I’m a leper and walk away from the conversation.

I’ve tried to talk a few non-audiophile friends into Sonos but they usually say something like “that’s way too expensive for me, I’m not an audiophile”. I’ve even met a few people who think Bose is “the top of the line” and their Lifestyle system is as good as it gets. They don’t think that some small company they never heard of could make something better.

I have friends who have owned toys like $45k convertibles, luxury SUVs, $30k Harleys, boats, $15k garden tractors, etc. and people think nothing of it. But these days, if you buy anything more than a basic soundbar or wireless speaker you are labeled an audiophile and assumed to have a screw loose. Unless you are a vinyl collecting urban hipster, then it’s cool.
For sure and even in this thread. Folks wanting to cheap out on the center channel. I am so completely the opposite on this subject. But my love is concerts over stereo. An awesome center is the coolest!

Thank goodness Dynaudio and KEF builds some great ones.

But it's funny the center gets no love.

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I'm so confused by Dynaudio driver names / specs.

First, we seem to have model lines, like:

Esotar
Esotec+
Esotec

And then we have driver designations like...

18W75

...which seems to denote driver diameter and voicecoil diameter.

What's the secret decoder ring to decipher all of these?
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For sure and even in this thread. Folks wanting to cheap out on the center channel. I am so completely the opposite on this subject. But my love is concerts over stereo. An awesome center is the coolest!

Thank goodness Dynaudio and KEF builds some great ones.

But it's funny the center gets no love.

Rick
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I don't get it,first you call my post incorrect,where I say that I believe having a center is more accurate than "phantom center"...so I say you might as well sell it then if there is no difference.Then you say there is no way you would get rid of it because you like the pin point center image???Am I missing something here?
Your missing a "CENTER CHANNEL" LOL All kidding aside I like having one, I tried it both ways and the voices seem more accurate coming from under my 100" screen verses setting it up Phantom mode... I just wheel my Center channel out when I want to use it during movies.
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I don't get it,first you call my post incorrect,where I say that I believe having a center is more accurate than "phantom center"...so I say you might as well sell it then if there is no difference.Then you say there is no way you would get rid of it because you like the pin point center image???Am I missing something here?
Let me speak hopefully more thoughtfully. Basically a phantom center is created because the downmix makes a mono signal of the center channel and pushes it through the L&R speakers. Any speaker of good quality should delineate the signals well enough that you won't "miss" the center channel if there 1-2 people listening.

I won't give up my center channel because there's often 4-5 people watching tv at my house in the main room. Since we sit width-wise the center channel keeps the dialog anchored to the center and makes it a more enjoyable listening experience for everyone. The 210C has clarity and punch, so good that I don't see the need to pay double to go up the ladder. Sure there are advantages that going up the ladder can offer, however when we discuss value the 210C is hard to beat. Hell the X22 Center was great with dialog but lacked the low end dynamics.

Also, I never said I wanted or didn't want the center channel, I have one for a reason, but sans the CC phantom mode can still sound really good.

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I have an idea, if you do not like your center get rid of it. You do not have to justify it with anyone here or convince them to do the same or why. Whether it is a matter of the size, space, cost whatever. My home theater is small, 11ft wide X 22ft long with 5 theater seats 2 rows, using the Scansonic MB-C with the SS MB-2.5 and I would not go without that center. The center in my setup truly gets a work out. JMO Remember like Garmen says if it sounds good to your ears that is all that matters!!!
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I've never heard Raidhos but I'm sure they're fantastic. That said, I don't see how I could square these two statements on a speaker at their price level.

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.the cabinets are made in China for the ho's ..... Raidho diamond series are a cost is no object speaker.
Would it not be more expensive / desirable for the cabinet to made in Denmark? Isn't that the definition of cost no object?

On the other hand, if Raidho has found in China the world's finest cabinet maker, they should make that clear and sell it the way Dynaudio proudly sells its "made in Denmark" status. After all, some fantastic gear is being made in China, and I've posted in this very thread about Line Magnetic.
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The Ho's use Titanium wire in the voice coils for starters. Dyn uses aluminum wire in theirs (even cheaper than copper). .
Im sure nobody really cares, but dyn surely uses aluminum not to save .03 cents per speaker over CU (or 50 cents over Ti) but because it is much less dense than CU (or Ti). This is especially important with their gigantic voice coils. Keeping the mass down allows the speaker motor to have better control of the assembly. Cu has better electrical and thermal conductivity than AL buy a factor of around 2 (I think) but that is based on geometry not weight. Im not really sure why you would use titanium as an electrical conductor in this application really, but I certainly don't know the details. It has high strength to weight (depending on alloy of course), but that doesn't help you much in a voicecoil. The thermal and electrical conductivities are poor. It does have a higher melting point than copper, which it will need from the resistance heating that will occur.
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That giant solid aluminum baffle on the front isn't light, larger drivers 24cm vs. 20 in the C4, and the enclosure has a similar surface area as the C4 (C60 is ~5% less) so yeah I can totally see them weighing close to the same...

I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing them in the next couple months when the local shop gets them! I just wish they weren't so set on only selling at MSRP...
I demoed a pair of C30's last week, truly a 'work of art" in appearance and performance.

I've never done business with this dealer before, so I thought I would ask about actual "cash price".

Was told that Dynaudio had invested over 1M in the new Contour line and that MSRP was the price...period.

I know the Contour line is the latest and greatest.

While I'm always looking for a bargain, I will probably pony up for a pair of the C30's, they are xceptional in every aspect.
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