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Old 03-25-2017, 08:37 PM
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Thanks Oliver! I have dropped about 45 lbs so far and looking close to my college self, few more to go tho. I'm down 3 pant sizes and it felt great to go shopping for new clothes! Haha.

That's good that they're getting better. I think after 20 hours I started to crank it up a bit. How long till you move the Sudgen for the Naim pieces??
It will take a bit a time not to mention I will be moving tha big Bryston beast as well.

I might put a deposit on 250 DR shortly to make sure it is still available.

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It will take a bit a time not to mention I will be moving tha big Bryston beast as well.

I might put a deposit on 250 DR shortly to make sure it is still available.
You should crank it up with some Lindsey Stirling Crystalize.... I love that song when I can crank it....
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Did you get to hear that at the show?
Why are you posting??? Feed the woman some ice chips or help her breathe thru the contractions!!!
I'm just killing time waiting. She has a cup of ice chips. Not much longer.
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No but I spoke with Naim dealer and they confirm what I thought anyways might as well just go 272/250dr without PS upgrade instead of 202 HI-CAP with 250DR for about $1500 more only.
What happened I thought you didn't want a streamer!!?? The Oppo was all the streamer you needed!?! I swear you and john change ur minds like women change clothes for a night out. ??
I reserve the right to change my mind. All options are just that. Options. Until I do decide then I can second guess myself for the next few years. :P
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I'm just killing time waiting. She has a cup of ice chips. Not much longer.

I reserve the right to change my mind. All options are just that. Options. Until I do decide then I can second guess myself for the next few years. :P
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I reserve the right to change my mind. All options are just that. Options. Until I do decide then I can second guess myself for the next few years. :P
With a little coach on the way you best buy those D 5.1's today. Don't worry, it will be months before the wife sees the bank statement. And by then you'll be on to D 5.2's.
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So guys, any suggestion around the digital cable to use to conect my Focus XD each other? I am running source (Moon MiND) with Heimdall 2.


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So guys, any suggestion around the digital cable to use to conect my Focus XD each other? I am running source (Moon MiND) with Heimdall 2.


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Why not get another Heimdall 11?,those happen to be the cables i use.

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I'm offered a pair of Focus 160 (brand new) at $1,670. Is it a good price? I know it's a discontinued model and the dealer just want to finish this model.
Yes, it's a good price. For reference, I paid $2000 for mine when I first heard they were discontinued. That was after production had stopped but while there was still inventory and they were still listed on Dynaudio's web site. In the US, Dedicated Audio cleared out the last remaining stock, and the lowest price I saw at the bitter end of the clearance was $1800. Retail price was USD $2900 when they were a current model.

Used Focus 160s are typically advertised on Audiogon and Audio Mart for $1600-1800. A few higher and lower than that. A realistic sale price for used 160s in good condition is probably around $1500. So if you can get a new pair for $1670, I would go for it. If you end up not liking them, you're only going to lose 10% or so on resale.

I think the second generation Focus offered excellent performance for the price. They should have sold like hot cakes. At first I thought their look & finish was kind of low budget, but they sounded better than they looked. And the look has grown on me over time.

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No Quarter,

I am not sure about your budget, but have you considered Antipodes? I have been very pleased with mine. It will rip CDs, has internal storage, and will run ROON core as well as serve as an endpoint. In fact, you can load all kinds of software and use it as a source for the whole house. Support and the US distributor have been great. The distributor is local for me in Atlanta. The down side is that Antipodes is expensive and there are little quirks. For instance, if you are ripping a CD while listening to music and the CD gets stuck in a loop, you have to reset the system to get the CD to eject.

The reason I am offering a suggestion is that I have been following your journey with the XD 600s. It would be very convenient for me to run my Antipodes directly into the XDs and I appreciate your feedback. Last weekend, I had a chance to listen to the XD 600s locally, but was not very impressed. Come to find out, they were new, had the old software, and were being used with room correction that outputs an analogue signal. Hopefully I will get to hear them again in a better set-up.

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Hi all

I have some XD 600's coming in this week, and can't wait! The first thing I'll be doing is the 3.0 firmware update, and some serious listening afterwards. Will be interesting to see how the sound changes during burn-in. My signal chain will be purely digital: Roon (NAS/Tidal) --> Sonore uRendu --> Audiophilleo 2 MK2 (S/PDIF) --> XD 600.

I'll post some comparisons with my current Ayre/PSB setup.

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No Quarter,

I am not sure about your budget, but have you considered Antipodes? I have been very pleased with mine. It will rip CDs, has internal storage, and will run ROON core as well as serve as an endpoint. In fact, you can load all kinds of software and use it as a source for the whole house. Support and the US distributor have been great. The distributor is local for me in Atlanta. The down side is that Antipodes is expensive and there are little quirks. For instance, if you are ripping a CD while listening to music and the CD gets stuck in a loop, you have to reset the system to get the CD to eject.

The reason I am offering a suggestion is that I have been following your journey with the XD 600s. It would be very convenient for me to run my Antipodes directly into the XDs and I appreciate your feedback. Last weekend, I had a chance to listen to the XD 600s locally, but was not very impressed. Come to find out, they were new, had the old software, and were being used with room correction that outputs an analogue signal. Hopefully I will get to hear them again in a better set-up.

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Hi Brian,it is funny you mention Antipodes,my local dealer suggested their music server to me,as he carries them i guess.I had never heard of them before last week,i have done some research and they seem to get good reviews.I asked about them on E.S.A.C.,and the founder(CD lehner) thought they are overpriced,and look like someone just slapped together some off the shelf componets,put a fancy box around them ,and put a big price tag on them.
I am demoing a Naim Unitiserve in a couple of weeks,because i thought about getting a Naim Core(new product)but there appear to be some bugs to work out with that unit.Which Antipodes model do you have?I appreciate your feedback on them,because it would be easy for me to get one of those.As far as the XD 600's go,the update makes a big difference,and i find digital input,hard wired to be the best source,i am not sure why anyone would apply room correction,because they have switches on the back that are supposed to help with that,but i have not played with those too much myself.Does the Antipodes unit you have,also have an RCA out,because the ones i looked at were USB out?

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I have the DS model, but they have a bunch. Mine is strictly USB output and would require a an upgrade to add RCA and optical.

I would caution you on the "off the shelf components in a fancy box". The box is nice, but it isn't that fancy. More importantly, there is a ton of custom code that you might want to research. That said, I don't have any idea how it compares to Naim. Verastarr.com is the NA distributor and Mike Powell is very knowledgeable.

Good luck,
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I have the DS model, but they have a bunch. Mine is strictly USB output and would require a an upgrade to add RCA and optical.

I would caution you on the "off the shelf components in a fancy box". The box is nice, but it isn't that fancy. More importantly, there is a ton of custom code that you might want to research. That said, I don't have any idea how it compares to Naim. Verastarr.com is the NA distributor and Mike Powell is very knowledgeable.

Good luck,
Yes i agree there is more to it than just slapping some components in a fancy box.That is something that is WAY over my head,and the guy who stated that has built quite a few of his own servers,so is way more knowledgable than me,but i am not the type to fiddle with things,i just go out and buy what is the best product for my situation,so the jury is still out on that...but the Antipodes is definitely on my radar.

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Hi Brian,it is funny you mention Antipodes,my local dealer suggested their music server to me,as he carries them i guess.I had never heard of them before last week,i have done some research and they seem to get good reviews.I asked about them on E.S.A.C.,and the founder(CD lehner) thought they are overpriced,and look like someone just slapped together some off the shelf componets,put a fancy box around them ,and put a big price tag on them.
I am demoing a Naim Unitiserve in a couple of weeks because i thought about getting a Naim Core(new product)but there appear to be some bugs to work out with that unit.Which Antipodes model do you have?I appreciate your feedback on them,because it would be easy for me to get one of those.As far as the XD 600's go,the update makes a big difference,and i find digital input,hard wired to be the best source,i am not sure why anyone would apply room correction,because they have switches on the back that are supposed to help with that,but i have not played with those too much myself.Does the Antipodes unit you have,also have an RCA out,because the ones i looked at were USB out?
Tony with the pricing on the Core out the US should be pretty reasonable on the pre owned market. That said the internal HD is the weak link (it's a craptop drive in a fanless micro computer - heat is the problem). SSD should be more reliable BUT now you need a Nas to stream from. The SSD doesn't hold the rips. BTW Rhettard has an internal HD for the Core and he finally is importing his music from the Nas and hopefully when the Core gets power cycled it won't take hours to compile the music from his Nas. IMO the Nas should be the backup only.

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Tony with the pricing on the Core out the US should be pretty reasonable on the pre owned market. That said the internal HD is the weak link (it's a craptop drive in a fanless micro computer - heat is the problem). SSD should be more reliable BUT now you need a Nas to stream from. The SSD doesn't hold the rips. BTW Rhettard has an internal HD for the Core and he finally is importing his music from the Nas and hopefully when the Core gets power cycled it won't take hours to compile the music from his Nas. IMO the Nas should be the backup only.
Yes George I can actually get the one I am demoing for $2,200.00 Canadian,it is my dealers demo unit,that he has had for a while.I am hoping to get some idea of what to expect if I went with the core,and I am trying to avoid getting a NAS,you can add up to 16 TB to the Core.My plan is to try it directly into the XD's,directly into the N272,and into my Hugo...then into the N272 from the Hugo,to see what sounds best.Hell,if I like the Unitiserve,I may just go with it.

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Tony with the pricing on the Core out the US should be pretty reasonable on the pre owned market. That said the internal HD is the weak link (it's a craptop drive in a fanless micro computer - heat is the problem). SSD should be more reliable BUT now you need a Nas to stream from. The SSD doesn't hold the rips. BTW Rhettard has an internal HD for the Core and he finally is importing his music from the Nas and hopefully when the Core gets power cycled it won't take hours to compile the music from his Nas. IMO the Nas should be the backup only.
Yes George I can actually get the one I am demoing for $2,200.00 Canadian,it is my dealers demo unit,that he has had for a while.I am hoping to get some idea of what to expect if I went with the core,and I am trying to avoid getting a NAS,you can add up to 16 TB to the Core.My plan is to try it directly into the XD's,directly into the N272,and into my Hugo...then into the N272 from the Hugo,to see what sounds best.Hell,if I like the Unitiserve,I may just go with it.
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Yes George I can actually get the one I am demoing for $2,200.00 Canadian,it is my dealers demo unit,that he has had for a while.I am hoping to get some idea of what to expect if I went with the core,and I am trying to avoid getting a NAS,you can add up to 16 TB to the Core.My plan is to try it directly into the XD's,directly into the N272,and into my Hugo...then into the N272 from the Hugo,to see what sounds best.Hell,if I like the Unitiserve,I may just go with it.
My biggest concern with the Core is the fact it can't stream internet radio (but it could be in a future update). The Unitiserve can. But what the US can't do is subscribe to premium services like tidal etc.

As far as internal Hd's for the Core the largest Hd I can find today is a 10TB Seagate and 8TB with western digital
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