Originally Posted by Mr.SoftDome
GMan I hear you.. okay.
But here is my real introduction to high end swear to God. Most of you guys have it over me..
It was a **** load time ago- I bought Axiom speakers due to incredible web support. So awesome. Blah Blah Blah- they lasted about three months, past my return window but god they sucked. I could deal with a movie but music?? GRRR the worst speaker ever.
I started checking things out and heard about Dynaudio. Clueless but I finally went in and had a listen and tried not to be embarrassed of my financial place at the time.
We started with Contour and it was much younger than the Grandpa it is now. The dudes were next to me and behind me and I felt uncomfortable. They also were a Focal dealer. We went to Electra. WOW what a better and more forward sound but not bright.
You think I would have become Focal love but I didn't. They both were too much at the time but later I got into the original Focus. I was beyond proud. It started a huge Dynaudio love but look they have been stale. Love to hear about Focus for the millionth time and reading thru the latest Contour lines not sure a hit. They really were poor against Focal way back when from a fun factor.
Confidence is all on the line. I would move my KEF to Craiglist in a second if they do what I think they will do. New wordclass drivers that will make others cry and a new look although current is a bit timeless except I hate laquer. It's very APAC region. Let's get back to real wood and I know the grey in Contour is loved but the cabinet is talked more than the sound.
I would love to be in this thread again with the next Confidence. The replacement is going to be the biggest deal in Dynaudio history. Hope they score.
You bring up some great points (especially in your area)! If spent a ton of money at a local dealer and he rarely gave me any discounts, I don't shop their anymore, I love brick and mortar stores and if I become a regular I would expect some type of deal within reason. We had regulars at Audiophiles where I worked back in the late 90's through 2002 and I would be able to give them 25-30% discount sometimes more depending on markup on product etc. If I dealer kept on giving me MSRP, I would look for used stuff especially if a Dealer wouldn't budge on price, hell Hegel and Raidho seemed to be discounted hugely and both sound good I just recently went to the Music Room online where they get good stuff in on trade usually 1-2 owners and most of the stuff is in mint condition and they where able to give me a even trade on some Amps I been trying to find for the last couple of years. You don't have to spend a crap load of money too get good sound, that's for sure, but it's a matter of perspective for some people, they think some $100,000 speaker is going to sound better than lets say a $5000 speaker (Not always the case) And when you go to these shows, you find out your ears like the $5000 speaker over the $100,000 pair. To me last year the Maggico speakers sounded horrible this year that wasn't the case, but I have a pair of $1800 Magnepan 1.7i that "I" think sound magical along with my C2 Platinums on a great trade I got from another good Dealer, so deals can be made and if they are not doing it at the local level look elsewhere, I say! Hell the dealer in Green Bay that carries KEF even gives me decent discounts.. Example: a good dealer I like a few ours away wouldn't budge on Hegel, I found a dealer on East Cost and the difference was significant, almost $1500 difference, again all depends on margins, markup and how much inventory the dealer is moving with the manufacture etc.. Now I haven't been working at a dealer for years, so a lot could have changed over the years, or not!
I find a dealer based on reputation and loyalty, if I am a loyal customer and a constantly returning customer I would expect some decent pricing. I know of several dealers I would gladly buy from right now and have, and one is in Chicago and he is a great guy and has decent prices. Heck most of the Naim guys on here never pay MSRP, I know I wouldn't even though I like their products. Heck I would easily buy from anyone on here and have, as I know they are like I am and take impeccable care of their equipment. I think Tyler was shocked when he un-packed my original C2 when I traded them in on the new Platinums, even George remarked they looked like new and they were 10 years old. Many good options if you look for them!
On another note: I heard these at Axpona with some Rogue Gear and they where very nice!