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I have the IP-17's for my rear surround speakers. They are set-up far right and far left according to surround sound specs. Though they are in-walls, I mounted them in the ceiling.

One day I had to do work in the front of my room, so I had to move my main speakers out of the way. I like to listen to music while I work, so I hooked up my main amp (at the time), preamp and source to the IP17's. I was blown away by the sound I was getting from those little in-wall/in-ceiling speakers.

All I know is from that one day experimenting with those IP's, hooked up with superior power and source, they sounded incredible. Even though they were spaced for rear surrounds, they sounded incredible.

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That is the feedback I was hoping for. Hopefully I can re-audition the Dyns with more robust amplification.
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Good to see you back. Hope all is well
I'm back as in once a year or so, popped back in for the Special Forty hehe
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I'm back as in once a year or so, popped back in for the Special Forty hehe

Hey Dynero,

I was thinking of you the other day. Wondering what the hell happened to Dynero? And then you popped up in the forum. Subliminal message

We were a pretty good group.

Do you remember Puma Cat? He called me yesterday. We had a really nice conversation.
His system is pretty much what it was a few years ago. The only upgrade he's done is putting new Esotar Tweets in his Contour 3.4s.

Stephan has shifted his focus more to his photography. I've seen his work and he's one hell of a photographer.

Good to hear from you!

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Heard Contour 20s this week.

Very transparent. It did not leave me "wow amazing", rather - "ok, that's how it sounded in 1979 live performance club".

I really liked that it did have big sound for "bookshelves", whereas instruments felt properly sized. However, what did unsettle me was the bass, it seemed like it did not have a good kick compared to my Focus 160. The amp and source were NAIM, and I listen via Arcam at home, so not sure if its due to room accoustics (which were book-perfect) or the amp.


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If I were to guess, you were hearing the room with the bass. I found the contour 20 to have a tremendous amount of bass for a bookshelf.
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Heard Contour 20s this week.

Very transparent. It did not leave me "wow amazing", rather - "ok, that's how it sounded in 1979 live performance club".

I really liked that it did have big sound for "bookshelves", whereas instruments felt properly sized. However, what did unsettle me was the bass, it seemed like it did not have a good kick compared to my Focus 160. The amp and source were NAIM, and I listen via Arcam at home, so not sure if its due to room accoustics (which were book-perfect) or the amp.


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If I were to guess, you were hearing the room with the bass. I found the contour 20 to have a tremendous amount of bass for a bookshelf.
I agree.
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If I were to guess, you were hearing the room with the bass. I found the contour 20 to have a tremendous amount of bass for a bookshelf.
Not to criticize, but please stop calling certain models within the Dyn range bookshelf speakers.

A bookshelf is typically 11.25" inches deep. I have had the Special 25's, C1's, and the Focus 160's in my room at the same time. They are all too deep to place in a bookshelf. Also, they are rear-ported, which makes them inappropriate for a "bookshelf" install.

Call them monitors or stand-mounts, which they truly are.
Rant over.
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Greg Allman passed away?

I have not looked at the news today.

Just looked at the news. Greg Allman passed away at 69.

Last year was David Bowie at 69.

Last year , Glenn Frey of the Eagles at 67.

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Not to criticize, but please stop calling certain models within the Dyn range bookshelf speakers.

A bookshelf is typically 11.25" inches deep. I have had the Special 25's, C1's, and the Focus 160's in my room at the same time. They are all too deep to place in a bookshelf. Also, they are rear-ported, which makes them inappropriate for a "bookshelf" install.

Call them monitors or stand-mounts, which they truly are.
Rant over.
I agree they aren't really bookshelf speakers by application. However, you can't fault people for labeling them as such considering the fact that Dynaudio themselves have them listed in the "bookshelf" category on their website.
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Greg Allman passed away?

I have not looked at the news today.

Just looked at the news. Greg Allman passed away at 69.

Last year was David Bowie at 69.

Last year , Glenn Frey of the Eagles at 67.
Music has had a rough stretch the last couple of years. Seems like more than normal to me.
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If I were to guess, you were hearing the room with the bass. I found the contour 20 to have a tremendous amount of bass for a bookshelf.
Not to criticize, but please stop calling certain models within the Dyn range bookshelf speakers.

A bookshelf is typically 11.25" inches deep. I have had the Special 25's, C1's, and the Focus 160's in my room at the same time. They are all too deep to place in a bookshelf. Also, they are rear-ported, which makes them inappropriate for a "bookshelf" install.

Call them monitors or stand-mounts, which they truly are.
Rant over.
Just curious but since you have 2 "stand mounts" do you prefer those to floor standers or is it your room? If you prefer them why? Again just curious.
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That's a really good intelligent question. Complicated though.

Stand-mount speakers tend to image better, they also can throw a larger soundstage. Also, I think a good stand-mount is more accurate. But, most stand mounts have a problem with bass. Other than the Special 25.

I have a very understanding wife, so I was able to set up a dedicated listening room. I don't like posting pics of my room, so if you're interested I can PM you a link. My room is 15.5'W X 19.5'DX 9' H.

A good room changes the whole ballgame, as long as Steve Spurrier is not involved.
I've never talked about all the speakers I've had through my room.
The one floor-stand speaker I would consider for long term is the Confidence C2. I love that speaker. I believe the C4's would over-power my room.

The new Contour 20 and the Special 40 sound intriguing, especially the Contour 20. But I'll stick with my s25's.
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That's a really good intelligent question. Complicated though.

Stand-mount speakers tend to image better, they also can throw a larger soundstage. Also, I think a good stand-mount is more accurate. But, most stand mounts have a problem with bass. Other than the Special 25.

I have a very understanding wife, so I was able to set up a dedicated listening room. I don't like posting pics of my room, so if you're interested I can PM you a link. My room is 15.5'W X 19.5'DX 9' H.

A good room changes the whole ballgame, as long as Steve Spurrier is not involved.
I've never talked about all the speakers I've had through my room.
The one floor-stand speaker I would consider for long term is the Confidence C2. I love that speaker. I believe the C4's would over-power my room.

The new Contour 20 and the Special 40 sound intriguing, especially the Contour 20. But I'll stick with my s25's.
I think I'm going with you in the stand mounts. Not sure I've heard enough speakers to say for sure that's true but I'm super happy with my C20. You've heard C20 and S40? If so how does the bass compare between the 2? I'm considering S40 and finding out for myself but if you care to elaborate then it may save me a few coins.

I wouldn't trust a room the Ol Ball Coach set up.
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I think I'm going with you in the stand mounts. Not sure I've heard enough speakers to say for sure that's true but I'm super happy with my C20. You've heard C20 and S40? If so how does the bass compare between the 2? I'm considering S40 and finding out for myself but if you care to elaborate then it may save me a few coins.

I wouldn't trust a room the Ol Ball Coach set up.
I've not heard the S40. Looking at the specs and the price point, it seems to be a replacement for the Focus160.

I would stay with the Contour20. It's going to have more balls. It's the only stand-mount Dyn has come out with in years that comes close to the S25.
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I think I'm going with you in the stand mounts. Not sure I've heard enough speakers to say for sure that's true but I'm super happy with my C20. You've heard C20 and S40? If so how does the bass compare between the 2? I'm considering S40 and finding out for myself but if you care to elaborate then it may save me a few coins.

I wouldn't trust a room the Ol Ball Coach set up.
I've not heard the S40. Looking at the specs and the price point, it seems to be a replacement for the Focus160.

I would stay with the Contour20. It's going to have more balls. It's the only stand-mount Dyn has come out with in years that comes close to the S25.
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Not to criticize, but please stop calling certain models within the Dyn range bookshelf speakers.

A bookshelf is typically 11.25" inches deep. I have had the Special 25's, C1's, and the Focus 160's in my room at the same time. They are all too deep to place in a bookshelf. Also, they are rear-ported, which makes them inappropriate for a "bookshelf" install.

Call them monitors or stand-mounts, which they truly are.
Rant over.
So great.

That said...

1. They will fit on a bookshelf, whereas the 30s and 60s won't.

2. If one clicks on bookshelf speakers on Dynaudios website, the 20s, C1, and special 40s, can all be found there.

Regardless, a heck of a speaker.
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How close can the Excite center 24/28 be (with its rear port) from the theater front wall without causing ill effects? If I go with 2 of them for front height Atmos above the screen, it will be a matter of inches from the wall. The will be mounted high up above the screen angled down towards the listener and cut off at 80hz.
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How close can the Excite center 24/28 be (with its rear port) from the theater front wall without causing ill effects? If I go with 2 of them for front height Atmos above the screen, it will be a matter of inches from the wall. The will be mounted high up above the screen angled down towards the listener and cut off at 80hz.
I would not worry about front height channels. That is total BS. When you have your front channels set up properly, you are going to have the height effect.

I have a new boy in the household, his name is Shadow, BorderCollie and something else; a real sweetheart. He follows me everywhere. Sits next to me when I watch a movie or listening to 2-channel.
Now I have a dedicated room with all the acoustical accoutrements. He looks at the ceiling many times, because he's hearing music or effects from the ceiling; this is during 2-channel listening.

I would concentrate more on your rear and side channels for Atmos.

I have a very lightly used Confidence Center for sale. That's going to match up pretty well with your Egglestons. That speaker probably has less than 4 movies on it. PM me if interested.
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How close can the Excite center 24/28 be (with its rear port) from the theater front wall without causing ill effects? If I go with 2 of them for front height Atmos above the screen, it will be a matter of inches from the wall. The will be mounted high up above the screen angled down towards the listener and cut off at 80hz.
I wouldn't worry about any ill effects for a few reasons.

1. Most ill effects related to being close to the wall is a mid bass or low end bass hump. Seeing that you are crossing them over at 80hz, you may have a small mid bass bump, but depending on your processing you could EQ that out.

2. Most effects channels don't play much, if any, low end.
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I would not worry about front height channels. That is total BS. When you have your front channels set up properly, you are going to have the height effect.

I have a new boy in the household, his name is Shadow, BorderCollie and something else; a real sweetheart. He follows me everywhere. Sits next to me when I watch a movie or listening to 2-channel.
Now I have a dedicated room with all the acoustical accoutrements. He looks at the ceiling many times, because he's hearing music or effects from the ceiling; this is during 2-channel listening.

I would concentrate more on your rear and side channels for Atmos.

I have a very lightly used Confidence Center for sale. That's going to match up pretty well with your Egglestons. That speaker probably has less than 4 movies on it. PM me if interested.
When I say front heights, I really mean the two forward Atmos speakers... (not traditional front height speakers).

Thank you for the offer on the Dynaudio center. I already have my 7 channel EW speaker system, which includes the Andra Center. I have owned them for many years.
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I wouldn't worry about any ill effects for a few reasons.

1. Most ill effects related to being close to the wall is a mid bass or low end bass hump. Seeing that you are crossing them over at 80hz, you may have a small mid bass bump, but depending on your processing you could EQ that out.

2. Most effects channels don't play much, if any, low end.
That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming...
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Heard Contour 20s this week.

Very transparent. It did not leave me "wow amazing", rather - "ok, that's how it sounded in 1979 live performance club".

I really liked that it did have big sound for "bookshelves", whereas instruments felt properly sized. However, what did unsettle me was the bass, it seemed like it did not have a good kick compared to my Focus 160. The amp and source were NAIM, and I listen via Arcam at home, so not sure if its due to room accoustics (which were book-perfect) or the amp.


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Wow, that's interesting. When I auditioned the C20's I was impressed with the amount of bass they had.
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That's a really good intelligent question. Complicated though.

Stand-mount speakers tend to image better, they also can throw a larger soundstage. Also, I think a good stand-mount is more accurate. But, most stand mounts have a problem with bass. Other than the Special 25.

I have a very understanding wife, so I was able to set up a dedicated listening room. I don't like posting pics of my room, so if you're interested I can PM you a link. My room is 15.5'W X 19.5'DX 9' H.

A good room changes the whole ballgame, as long as Steve Spurrier is not involved.
I've never talked about all the speakers I've had through my room.
The one floor-stand speaker I would consider for long term is the Confidence C2. I love that speaker. I believe the C4's would over-power my room.

The new Contour 20 and the Special 40 sound intriguing, especially the Contour 20. But I'll stick with my s25's.
It is an AMAZING room too!!!
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Not to criticize, but please stop calling certain models within the Dyn range bookshelf speakers.

A bookshelf is typically 11.25" inches deep. I have had the Special 25's, C1's, and the Focus 160's in my room at the same time. They are all too deep to place in a bookshelf. Also, they are rear-ported, which makes them inappropriate for a "bookshelf" install.

Call them monitors or stand-mounts, which they truly are.
Rant over.
Technically, I agree with you. However, we have learned in the past that in many countries that are not native English speaking, "stand-mount" is for whatever reason often confused with "floorstander". And many do not understand the term "Monitor" in the sense of a loudspeaker. This is the reason we stick with "bookshelf", although it can be said to be less descriptive, simply because it is less often misunderstood. We don't actually want anyone to place any of our speakers on a bookshelf...

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