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Why Not? My Holiday Inn Express Lab says differently.









Audissey is only used for a single seat calibration, levels, time arrivals, x-over of tops, NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. It is horribly distorting of the Dynaudio Purity but wih both ATI class a/b amps for Mains, and class d for tops, this is possibly the most immersive system on earth in the making, under 100db playback.
HFC! That room constitutes a sizable portion of worldwide Focus sales! I bet even Otto has never seen a setup like that!

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HFC! That room constitutes a sizable portion of worldwide Focus sales! I bet even Otto has never seen a setup like that!
The bookshelfs are X18s and the small towers are X34s, thwn it looks like 3 pairs of Focus 340s and 1 pair of X14s.

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It depends how you look at it. If you look at the physical construction, the Esotar2 uses a more elaborate and more expensive back chamber, and just by looking at them you would immediately recognize the Esotar2 as a higher quality construction overall. However, some of the internal changes in the Esotar Forty do provide a both measurable and listenable improvement in some areas, while in other areas the Esotar2 has the edge. …………..

…………….. The S40 woofer is an improvement compared to the one used in Evidence Temptation (which is very similar to the C1 woofer), whereas the S25 woofer is …………………But same league, yes.

Also notable is that for midrange performance, the smaller size of the S40 is actually an advantage.
………..some will like the different balance, others won't. That's fine - that's why we make more than one speaker.
Just going over Otto’s descriptions again…must say I'm looking forward to first impressions on Special 40…not in the market for new speakers but if it happens to sit performance wise somewhere between the 25s and C1…. well one never knows…
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Why Not? My Holiday Inn Express Lab says differently.

I can imagine being kidnapped and waking up in the middle chair thinking I've been abducted by the Aliens of "Dyn" looking down on me...no doubt it's immersive..especially with the lights out.
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I'd be tripping over those tripod speaker stands, or at least fear doing so. Any chance of ceiling mounts or is that a rental apartment rather than an owned condo?

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Those are a crapload of Dynaudio's in a small space. I think you might be better off using their near field studio monitors (LYD's). Pretty cool stands, and what tropical Island are you on? ?
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Why Not? My Holiday Inn Express Lab says differently.



Audissey is only used for a single seat calibration, levels, time arrivals, x-over of tops, NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. It is horribly distorting of the Dynaudio Purity but wih both ATI class a/b amps for Mains, and class d for tops, this is possibly the most immersive system on earth in the making, under 100db playback.
OMG your neighbors must HATE you...
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OMG your neighbors must HATE you...
Call me traditional but i prefer a good stereo.
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Otto,

Could I ask for a little help?

Any chance you could post the impedance curves for the Contour 60? Or, at a minimum let me know how low it drops? Doing some amp shopping... I know it's a nominal 4ohm load... but how low do the 60's go?

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https://stereo-magazine.com/flipview...gazine-2017-8/

See page 48. Looks like 4 ohms is the minimum.

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Otto,

Could I ask for a little help?

Any chance you could post the impedance curves for the Contour 60? Or, at a minimum let me know how low it drops? Doing some amp shopping... I know it's a nominal 4ohm load... but how low do the 60's go?

Thanks.
As always Otto will have the best info, but this magazine shows a min of just under 5 ohms @ around 200 hz
https://stereo-magazine.com/flipview...gazine-2017-8/

What is on the shopping list? Ive been causally browsing myself for my C4s. My shopping list isnt very exciting, mostly traditional stuff: Bryston 4B, Pass .5 series, ATI, etc. I am definitely buying used so just waiting for a great deal to appear. I am also a bit curious about some of the japanese brands: Accuphase, and luxman for example
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See page 48. Looks like 4 ohms is the minimum.
I must be completely blind I noticed after posting you posted the exact same link already.

My google ninja skills are not proprietary I guess
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As always Otto will have the best info, but this magazine shows a min of just under 5 ohms @ around 200 hz
https://stereo-magazine.com/flipview...gazine-2017-8/

What is on the shopping list? Ive been causally browsing myself for my C4s. My shopping list isnt very exciting, mostly traditional stuff: Bryston 4B, Pass .5 series, ATI, etc. I am definitely buying used so just waiting for a great deal to appear. I am also a bit curious about some of the japanese brands: Accuphase, and luxman for example

Thanks, it would be great for Otto to confirm, but good to see that.

Amp wise, I'm all over the place. Some of the usual (pass, classe, simaudio, krell... but also the SST Ampzilla 2000MkII, Coda, plinius, belcanto...) I'm a bit all over the place.

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Thanks, it would be great for Otto to confirm, but good to see that.

Amp wise, I'm all over the place. Some of the usual (pass, classe, simaudio, krell... but also the SST Ampzilla 2000MkII, Coda, plinius, belcanto...) I'm a bit all over the place.
Dynaudio speakers use impedance compensation within the crossover to keep the woofer response flatter across a larger frequency range. Therefore, dropping to low impedances isn't something you need to worry about.
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Thanks, it would be great for Otto to confirm, but good to see that.

Amp wise, I'm all over the place. Some of the usual (pass, classe, simaudio, krell... but also the SST Ampzilla 2000MkII, Coda, plinius, belcanto...) I'm a bit all over the place.
Green Giant,

Don't forget Odyssey Stratos. They get rave reviews.

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After i recent move,i am finally getting around to setting up my system again.The XD 600's are still in the boxes,i am starting by re-assembling my recently modified "Fraim" shelves.I machined the Fraim-lite shelves to full "Fraim" specs,and had them painted black,as i wanted to do when i originally got them.I am very happy with the way they turned out,i also added a tall shelf for my anthem amp.I hope to be listening to music again in a few days.
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After i recent move,i am finally getting around to setting up my system again.The XD 600's are still in the boxes,i am starting by re-assembling my recently modified "Fraim" shelves.I machined the Fraim-lite shelves to full "Fraim" specs,and had them painted black,as i wanted to do when i originally got them.I am very happy with the way they turned out,i also added a tall shelf for my anthem amp.I hope to be listening to music again in a few days.
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I was talking to my dealer today,and he knows my situation of now living in an apartment,so I told him I want the best low-volume listening I can get out of my gear.He said he has a new product coming in from Nordost that he wants me to try...the QKORE,which is a grounding system that is supposed to drastically reduce the noise floor.Goerge(Octadyn),I suspect that it is along the same lines as the Ansuz products that you use,Mainz 8 I believe it is called.I will give it a try I guess,since he offered...has anyone tried any of these products,are they snake oil,or legit?
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2017/...-ground-units/

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I was talking to my dealer today,and he knows my situation of now living in an apartment,so I told him I want the best low-volume listening I can get out of my gear.He said he has a new product coming in from Nordost that he wants me to try...the QKORE,which is a grounding system that is supposed to drastically reduce the noise floor.Goerge(Octadyn),I suspect that it is along the same lines as the Ansuz products that you use,Mainz 8 I believe it is called.I will give it a try I guess,since he offered...has anyone tried any of these products,are they snake oil,or legit?
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2017/...-ground-units/
Yeah, this is what I posted about a few weeks ago. It's pretty damn expensive though...
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I was talking to my dealer today,and he knows my situation of now living in an apartment,so I told him I want the best low-volume listening I can get out of my gear.He said he has a new product coming in from Nordost that he wants me to try...the QKORE,which is a grounding system that is supposed to drastically reduce the noise floor.Goerge(Octadyn),I suspect that it is along the same lines as the Ansuz products that you use,Mainz 8 I believe it is called.I will give it a try I guess,since he offered...has anyone tried any of these products,are they snake oil,or legit?
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2017/...-ground-units/
Tony that is different than the MainzD8. The Mainz is more like but a better version of the QBase. Both are power distribution that contain noise reduction. The QKore is a grounding device. Make sure you post what you think of the QKore
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Tony that is different than the MainzD8. The Mainz is more like but a better version of the QBase. Both are power distribution that contain noise reduction. The QKore is a grounding device. Make sure you post what you think of the QKore
Will do George,I may actually need the Qbase 8 also,just to have more receptacles available.Right now all I have/use is an Oyaide Mts-6,which has 6 outlets.

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Will do George,I may actually need the Qbase 8 also,just to have more receptacles available.Right now all I have/use is an Oyaide Mts-6,which has 6 outlets.
I would recommend a new set of speakers that play better at lower volumes, before I would buy one of those units.... Heck I think George would agree with me the Dynaudio C1 Platinums will do just that! I think I heard George talk about that a couple of dozen times on here! Regardless it never hurts to try a new product if it's for free, but the whole power cable/power units I think can come in handy if you have crappy service coming into your home or Apartment, which isn't the case for most people.

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Here’s a Wednesday afternoon query…. Dynaudio recommends 24” stand, which is what I’m currently using…but has anyone tried 16” stands with their Dyns….I remember being fairly happy with my Contour 1.3MKIIs on my Celection SL6S 16” heavy stands when I first got them but that was a while ago…guess it’s all where one sits and the interaction /balance of the base drivers being closer to the floor…etc..etc..
Thinking I cannot really do much with regards to the 128" screen height due to the air vent (except go smaller..but no way) but replacing the Target HR40 24"s with HR40 16"s.…….....the 25s will look like stubbies.....anyway just a thought.

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When's an update to the C1s going to come along incorporating all these advances in driver technology? I'll be queuing up around the block to buy an updated reference monitor from Dynaudio ;-)
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I would recommend a new set of speakers that play better at lower volumes, before I would buy one of those units.... Heck I think George would agree with me the Dynaudio C1 Platinums will do just that! I think I heard George talk about that a couple of dozen times on here! Regardless it never hurts to try a new product if it's for free, but the whole power cable/power units I think can come in handy if you have crappy service coming into your home or Apartment, which isn't the case for most people.
Actually the XD's are decent at low volume,I finally got them playing today,and it now feels /sounds like I am in a concert hall instead of a studio.
It is quite obvious I have to play around with placement,and luckily I have a lot of room treatment panels to use(Viscoustics).I already owned C1's,if anything I would wait for the next version of them...or possibly jump to a pair of Raidho D1's,I can now place them 12 feet apart if need be.George will like that one.
I may even look into sound proofing my apartment,it has cement walls,which is good,but the damn door to the hallway is paper thin,maybe Borderdog has some idea's for that.

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Actually the XD's are decent at low volume,I finally got them playing today,and it now feels /sounds like I am in a concert hall instead of a studio.
You mean like this....

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Actually with Dyns....it should sound as if one's in either the concert hall or the studio.... depending on the recording of course.
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Actually the XD's are decent at low volume,I finally got them playing today,and it now feels /sounds like I am in a concert hall instead of a studio.
It is quite obvious I have to play around with placement,and luckily I have a lot of room treatment panels to use(Viscoustics).I already owned C1's,if anything I would wait for the next version of them...or possibly jump to a pair of Raidho D1's,I can now place them 12 feet apart if need be.George will like that one.
I may even look into sound proofing my apartment,it has cement walls,which is good,but the damn door to the hallway is paper thin,maybe Borderdog has some idea's for that.
Well I give a big nod to the Raidho for near field listening that is for sure... One thing they do better than Dynaudio's to me is if your in a restricted space or want more of a near field listening experience they are definitely a good buy for that task!
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Well I give a big nod to the Raidho for near field listening that is for sure... One thing they do better than Dynaudio's to me is if your in a restricted space or want more of a near field listening experience they are definitely a good buy for that task!
Yup, after hearing them at Axpona, no doubt if I ever have to spend any time in an apartment, they will be what I get...
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Actually the XD's are decent at low volume,I finally got them playing today,and it now feels /sounds like I am in a concert hall instead of a studio.
It is quite obvious I have to play around with placement,and luckily I have a lot of room treatment panels to use(Viscoustics).I already owned C1's,if anything I would wait for the next version of them...or possibly jump to a pair of Raidho D1's,I can now place them 12 feet apart if need be.George will like that one.
I may even look into sound proofing my apartment,it has cement walls,which is good,but the damn door to the hallway is paper thin,maybe Borderdog has some idea's for that.
Don't forget the XT1's or 2's. 9 or 10ft apart is closer to ideal even up to the D3.1's.
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Actually the XD's are decent at low volume,I finally got them playing today,and it now feels /sounds like I am in a concert hall instead of a studio.
It is quite obvious I have to play around with placement,and luckily I have a lot of room treatment panels to use(Viscoustics).I already owned C1's,if anything I would wait for the next version of them...or possibly jump to a pair of Raidho D1's,I can now place them 12 feet apart if need be.George will like that one.
I may even look into sound proofing my apartment,it has cement walls,which is good,but the damn door to the hallway is paper thin,maybe Borderdog has some idea's for that.
I had a similar problem when I was living in an apartment: too much sound leakage out into the hallway. The first thing I did was add seals: a large rubber half-round stuck on the bottom of the door to close the ~1/2" gap to the threshold, and then a small rubber bulb seal around all the jambs. That alleviated most of the problem. I tried hanging an acoustic panel on the door but it didn't do much. If the door can handle the weight and you won't get in trouble if you drill holes in the top of the door, then you can hang a sheet of mass loaded vinyl. When I built the listening room downstairs in my house, I made a cheap DIY acoustic door. But if you're renting, I doubt you are at liberty to replace the door.

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