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The writer's thoughts concur with my own, which I wrote about earlier:
http://peteswrite.blogspot.sg/2017/0...er-review.html
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The writer's thoughts concur with my own, which I wrote about earlier:
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Hi, thank you for review . Looking at pictures seems like system is at least 3 times more expensive than speakers. How they would sound with amp at price range 1000 - 2000 usd? Anyone tried with Rega Elicit R?
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Hi, thank you for review . Looking at pictures seems like system is at least 3 times more expensive than speakers. How they would sound with amp at price range 1000 - 2000 usd? Anyone tried with Rega Elicit R?
I will try it with my $500 Denon DAB MCD 38 next week
I think the Rega has a stout heart and good drive, but you should try it for yourself. An amp with a solid current and power supply will make it sing more.
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Yes, I'm using HDMI from DVR to TV for Video. I get picture and the sound is only through TV. I tried to use HDMI for audio too from DVR to AVR and plugged it into the CBL/SAT option into my Marantz 6008 so that I could get the sound into my Dyns but it doesn't work at all.
One more question. Can you confirm you were trying to route the audio & video together? The normal way to do this is to connect the DVR's HDMI output to the AVR's CBL/SAT HDMI input, and then from the AVR's HDMI output to the TV's input, so the AVR is performing the source switching and handling the audio, but passing through the video. If you connected it this way and the result was no audio and no video, then I think you either have a setting wrong in the AVR or a HDCP issue.

I'm not familiar with the Marantz 6008, but if it's like my 8801 it will have a setup menu item called "input assign" where you assign inputs to sources. On mine, there are multiple CBL/SAT audio inputs, one is HDMI, another is coax S/PDIF, another is analog. The input assign menu is where you configure it to use the HDMI CBL/SAT input for the CBL/SAT source.

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Sorry Peter....My bad ....I should have said 2nd up....

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Sorry Peter....My bad ....I should have said 2nd up....
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I will try it with my $500 Denon DAB MCD 38 next week
I think the Rega has a stout heart and good drive, but you should try it for yourself. An amp with a solid current and power supply will make it sing more.
Now that's getting interesting.
I have now one amp with 1000va transformer, amp weighs 16kg.

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I know this have probably been asked a million times, but how to C20 fare against XD200 with not over the top electronics at the C20 (e.g. just a good intergrated amp)?

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Thank you all for your answers. The point is that my speakers is white, this was the only one available here.

The problem here is that I think the C4 looks aesthetically better than the Focus xd. I am happy with the sound of it, no complains. Just wondering if it does makes any sense on trading it.

If I only could paint or coat the speakers with new finishing i would be happier. Soundwise i don't miss a thing.


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Getting back to your Amp and or Int. Amp question.... I just picked up a Musical Fidelity A5 from a friend who needed some funds quickly this unit sounds very good with Dynaudio and will do 400wpc into a 4ohm load. Very musical, not quite the KW-500 or Nuvista level, but extremely good! I had several over the years, and am torn from keeping it or letting it go...

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I had that too. Superb sound and power. Build quality so so and you do get a transformer hum in some examples..
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Hi Aaron,I seem to remember from some old photos of your setup,that you had granite slabs on top of your special 25's.I am wondering what improvements you noticed with those on top.My guess would be tighter bass,but I would rather hear it from you.The reason I ask,now I have moved to a place with hardwood floors,so I don't really need granite slabs under my speakers to keep them stable,I may try a couple of the smaller ones I have on top of my 40's,if they ever arrive.i might also remove the ones under my XD's,see if I hear a difference,but those slabs are way too big to go on top.Also,what do you have between the granite and the top of the speaker,if anything...maybe herbie's dots,or blue tack?

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I know this have probably been asked a million times, but how to C20 fare against XD200 with not over the top electronics at the C20 (e.g. just a good intergrated amp)?


Interesting question, and one I am curious about too. I auditioned the Contour 20, and I have the Focus 160s which were the starting point for the XDs, but I've never had the chance to hear the XDs because my local dealer wasn't interested in getting a demo pair.


I'll bet the C20s go deeper. The specs say 39 Hz for both, but I think the 20 XD has a steep high-pass below that to limit excursion, whereas you'll get some audible output from the C20s down to the low 30s depending on boundary reinforcement. Compared to my F160s, I think the C20 is a little mellower on the top end. I suspect that observation will also be true comparing the 20 XD to C20. However, the top end balance of either speaker can be controlled to some degree by toe-in. The C20s did sound a little bit clearer than my F160s, but dispensing with the passive crossover in the 20 XD may erase that advantage. Likewise, the C20 was more dynamic, but active speakers are usually more dynamic than their passive counterparts, so the XD probably comes closer. One thing for sure is that the C20 will be able to play louder and fill a larger room.

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Hi Aaron,I seem to remember from some old photos of your setup,that you had granite slabs on top of your special 25's.I am wondering what improvements you noticed with those on top.My guess would be tighter bass,but I would rather hear it from you.The reason I ask,now I have moved to a place with hardwood floors,so I don't really need granite slabs under my speakers to keep them stable,I may try a couple of the smaller ones I have on top of my 40's,if they ever arrive.i might also remove the ones under my XD's,see if I hear a difference,but those slabs are way too big to go on top.Also,what do you have between the granite and the top of the speaker,if anything...maybe herbie's dots,or blue tack?
Hey Tony,

Yes, they are slabs of polished black granite. When you put weight on a structure, whether it be a wall or a structural box, it increases the stiffness of that membrane. It tightened the bass, but also helped the midrange.

I used Herbies "Thin" Fat Dots, the smaller 15/16" dia., as an interface between the granite and the top of the speaker. One at each corner.
I also use Herbies Cone/Spike Decoupling Gliders underneath the cones of the stands. They allow me to slide the speakers around without damaging the floor. They also decouple the stands from the floor.
Come to think of it, I use Herbies Square Fat Dots between the speaker and the stand.

I also have my stands filled with a 50/50 mixture of course sand and lead shot. (If you know how to handle lead it is completely safe). I don't know if they do it now, but Dyn used to supply long cylindrical bags for the columns just for the purpose of putting fill in them.
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Hey Tony,

Yes, they are slabs of polished black granite. When you put weight on a structure, whether it be a wall or a structural box, it increases the stiffness of that membrane. It tightened the bass, but also helped the midrange.

I used Herbies "Thin" Fat Dots, the smaller 15/16" dia., as an interface between the granite and the top of the speaker. One at each corner.
I also use Herbies Cone/Spike Decoupling Gliders underneath the cones of the stands. They allow me to slide the speakers around without damaging the floor. They also decouple the stands from the floor.
Come to think of it, I use Herbies Square Fat Dots between the speaker and the stand.

I also have my stands filled with a 50/50 mixture of course sand and lead shot. (If you know how to handle lead it is completely safe). I don't know if they do it now, but Dyn used to supply long cylindrical bags for the columns just for the purpose of putting fill in them.
Ok,I am going to give it a try then,I use blue tack between my excite 12's and the stand 3's,so since the 40's are going on those stands,I will use the same.My stands are about 3/4 full of dry sand,I like the idea of the herbie's gliders to fine tune the positioning though.Your slabs appear to be smaller than the 25's,the smallest pair I have,I used for my Iota's,I think they are 12"x12",so might overhang in the width a bit,but if they make a positive difference,I could get them cut to suit,I suppose...first world problems.

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... the 40's are going on those stands...
I think you might get a bit of a lollipop look with those speakers on those stands (Focus 160s looked a bit oversized when I saw them on Stand 3s at my local dealer)

Just a heads up for the possibility

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I think you might get a bit of a lollipop look with those speakers on those stands (Focus 160s looked a bit oversized when I saw them on Stand 3s at my local dealer)

Just a heads up for the possibility
I agree with you.

Here are the numbers:
Focus 160- 7.9" X 13.8" X 11.6"
Special 40- 7.8" X 14.2" X 12.1"

The S40 is slightly larger than the 160.

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I think you might get a bit of a lollipop look with those speakers on those stands (Focus 160s looked a bit oversized when I saw them on Stand 3s at my local dealer)

Just a heads up for the possibility
I know they are a bit big,stand 6 is probably in my future(again),but I have the stand 3's here for my excite 12's.One step at a time,lol,maybe the granite slabs on top might not be a good idea until I upgrade the stands.
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I know they are a bit big,stand 6 is probably in my future(again),but I have the stand 3's here for my excite 12's.One step at a time,lol,maybe the granite slabs on top might not be a good idea until I upgrade the stands.
I actually really liked the look of the Stand 3s and wanted a pair for my Focus 140s; unfortunately the size just didn't work out so I ended up buying some Stand 4s from CD. My dad is currently using those with his Harbeth 30.1.s, which have a lollipop thing going on as well, haha.

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