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Ran into Mick T Wednesday and saw the dealer demos arrived of the s40 that day. Depending on pickup or ship I would assume early next week depending on where you live. He told me Red Birch is back ordered. But had Grey available. Time to save up. Lol. Urggg


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Thanks,I live in Windsor Ontario,so fingers crossed for next week I guess.

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My parents were born and raised in Windsor, I still have alot of relatives in the city but haven't been there in several years. There used to be a couple nice little audio boutiques in the area. Meanwhile in my city of 5 million we hardly have an audio scene
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My S40s have finally shipped...
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My parents were born and raised in Windsor, I still have alot of relatives in the city but haven't been there in several years. There used to be a couple nice little audio boutiques in the area. Meanwhile in my city of 5 million we hardly have an audio scene
Yes we have Stereoland,and the guy I deal with is Audio two,but he closed his actual store,and now works from his home.Another place that I used to deal with is called Live Wire,they were more home theatre based,they closed up several years back...if any of these names ring a bell.

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I use the Naim Core,before this i was streaming from my laptop,using J-river software...and i agree that messing around with a computer,should not be part of listening to music.I had some initial problems with the Core,simply because i over filled the hard drive(SSD),this caused problems with the APP working right for me.After i got this sorted out,life has been a breeze with the Core,i LOVE IT,and the sound it produces is FAR superior to using a laptop.It really works well for me,i use it directly into my XD 600's(SPDIF) sometimes,and i also use it over my network feeding my Naim 272,which i use to drive my excite 12's,and soon to be special 40's.Bottom line is,i highly recommend getting a dedicated server,there are many good brands to choose from,Naim,Antipodes,Melco,Innous Zenith...to name a few.
Thanks Quarter,

Sounds like you have settled on your digital setup. Most folks down here raves about Roon. But I loath "managing" PC/Mac at home - drivers, patches, anti virus not to mention it requires screen and keyboard. My Qnap is essentially my server, and it is banished to a corner of my study and miles away from my listening area. All needs to be done is to browse my playlist from phone or tablet, that's it! I wondered one can place at streamer (Auralic mini which has USB out) in front of a DAC and just feed whatever requests from my tablet?
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Thanks Quarter,

Sounds like you have settled on your digital setup. Most folks down here raves about Roon. But I loath "managing" PC/Mac at home - drivers, patches, anti virus not to mention it requires screen and keyboard. My Qnap is essentially my server, and it is banished to a corner of my study and miles away from my listening area. All needs to be done is to browse my playlist from phone or tablet, that's it! I wondered one can place at streamer (Auralic mini which has USB out) in front of a DAC and just feed whatever requests from my tablet?
Yes you can,in fact Spurriers Sucks,who is temporarily banned from here used to use the Auralic mini with his Unitiqute 2...and he was pushing me to get one before I got the Naim Core.I decided to go with the Core because all my other gear is Naim,and it all works together VERY well.He swore by it,but I have not heard one,but I tend to think that USUALLY,you get what you pay for,and I wanted something a little more "high-end".

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Yes you can,in fact Spurriers Sucks,who is temporarily banned from here used to use the Auralic mini with his Unitiqute 2...and he was pushing me to get one before I got the Naim Core.I decided to go with the Core because all my other gear is Naim,and it all works together VERY well.He swore by it,but I have not heard one,but I tend to think that USUALLY,you get what you pay for,and I wanted something a little more "high-end".
Ha..ha..don't we all want a bit more "hgh-end", true true. Me thinks as long as a a streamer feeds digital stream via USB and the Dac reclocks the stream back all is good. All the processing should be at the DAC. Good to know someone has tried the same setup and works. Just need to find t that "high-end" that you mentioned
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Though I haven't heard it but the reviews of X250.8 have been really great. http://hometheaterreview.com/pass-la...viewed/?page=2
The reviewer at one point mentions... But in the area of tonality and overall warmth, I was unable to tell the difference between the two amplifiers. I believe, because the X250.8 amplifier never left Class A biasing, it presented the music with the same overall tonality and warmth in virtually the same way as the more expensive XA60.8 mono blocks. It was a challenge to hear the very minute/slight difference in the area of vocal reproduction.

Vitus seems to be a good amp. Read about the award their RI-100 has got. Impressive. Haven't heard it so can't say much about it.
While I have not heard both units mentioned here, the Passlab & Vitus. Both are very well regarded, one is pre/power setup the other is purely an integrated? If you can try an audition the SIA-025 from Vitus as they're known for their Class A. Of course I am bias, I will urge you to have a listen to the Gryphon Diablo 300. Gryphon has re-introduced back into US via this mob - https://onahighernote.com/shop/integ...ated-amplifier. Previous users I known of Vitus/MF/Passlab have swapped to Gryphon once they have heard the beast.
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Thanks,I live in Windsor Ontario,so fingers crossed for next week I guess.
Wow, right across the bridge... Who's your dealer over there?
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Yes we have Stereoland,and the guy I deal with is Audio two,but he closed his actual store,and now works from his home.Another place that I used to deal with is called Live Wire,they were more home theatre based,they closed up several years back...if any of these names ring a bell.
Disregard my previous question, this answers it.
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Wow, right across the bridge... Who's your dealer over there?
Are you in Detroit Yonson?I go over for sports and concerts now and then.

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Not Detroit proper, but fairly close I'm about an hour NW... I rarely ever go to the city, other than for Autorama.
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Thanks for the nice write up Frank,I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of mine.Was the demo with Hegel gear again the second time you went to listen?Also,where exactly are you located?...just trying to get a timeline on when I can expect mine,hopefully you are in the states,which means the boat has arrived.Calling my dealer seems to be pointless,he never seems to know when they will be here,until they actually arrive.
Sweden, here we have multiple dealers stocked-up with them.
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By the way, auditioned these :



Focal Utopias. Scala version whatever (v2 I think).
Absolutely unimpressed. Given their size and price and brand, thought I would get concert like experience with amazing bass. What I heard was FM radio like sound. Bass did not dig deep where it should, soundstage was average. And always had this resolution/color as if the radio was playing through them. Don't know how to explain, but was surprised how unimpressed I was. What was good was integration and clarity of mids amd highs, thats all.

Mind you, they were put on Denon 'monoblocks' and some wireless dac/player. But I thought even if you played radio through them, they should have sounded better..

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I think they dyn tweeters are fairly directional in the top octave since they are pretty large diameter, which should translate in tunabilty by playing with toe. I'm not sure if this top octave is where edgyness lies however.
To me, an excess of low treble is more bothersome than upper treble, because that's where the ear is more sensitive. And I agree that Dynaudio tweeters get directional in the top octave, more so than a lot of 1" domes. Regarding the Focus 160s, I think the low treble is just right. What I'm hearing as a little brightness on axis is probably a little higher, maybe around 5 KHz and up, and using less toe-in does seem to bring it into balance.

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Whats the source and amp?
Amps I've used with the F160s are Simaudio W-5LE, Luxman M-600A, Ayre AX-5, and briefly a Parasound A23. Source is a Linn Akurate DSM.
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While I have not heard both units mentioned here, the Passlab & Vitus. Both are very well regarded, one is pre/power setup the other is purely an integrated? If you can try an audition the SIA-025 from Vitus as they're known for their Class A. Of course I am bias, I will urge you to have a listen to the Gryphon Diablo 300. Gryphon has re-introduced back into US via this mob - https://onahighernote.com/shop/integ...ated-amplifier. Previous users I known of Vitus/MF/Passlab have swapped to Gryphon once they have heard the beast.
I wonder what pricing will be under the new distributor. If I remember correctly, it previously sold for $25k plus options in the US. The Vitus RI-100 was $13k last I checked.

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I plan to compare S40 and C20 this afternoon. Details to come.
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Had second audition of S40s, a longer one. Really really good results. Read on... I think I will convince you to buy a pair, cause I was convinced to buy one.
Were you incorporating these into a HT setup or strictly 2-channel? If HT, did your dealer suggest a matching center?

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Were you incorporating these into a HT setup or strictly 2-channel? If HT, did your dealer suggest a matching center?
Strictly 2-channel.
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Amm... Jazz at the pawnshop!

https://www.discogs.com/Arne-Domn%C3.../master/244008

I really like the Lim master. You can find it on Tidal.
It seems to be an easy listening Jazz performance, so perfect since im not into heavy jazz.
There seems to be no discussion about the reference quality of recording.
Also enjoyed the story behind the performance and recording.
So thanks for sharing!
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I plan to compare S40 and C20 this afternoon. Details to come.
Anxiously waiting here GT,try to snap a few pics too.I would think it is essential that they connect both speakers to the SAME equipment.Although FRANK 79's review was really good,I believe the speakers were run off different gear(s40 vs c20),so I am not sure what to take from that.I know you use Naim,so hopefully they have some on hand for your demo.

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I plan to compare S40 and C20 this afternoon. Details to come.
I am looking forward to your comments
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I'll be picking up a pair of S40s in Grey Birch in about an hour. Will pair with stand 6s and compare with my F260s. Happy Saturday to me


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Hi guys, new here. I am a long-time Dynaudio user, but more on their professional series. I have a home studio, where I work with headphones but also use small monitor speakers time to time. Previously I have used Mackie HR626, Dynaudio BM5A, Dynaudio BM15 passive with Rotel RB980BX, Focal Twin 6 BE, Yamaha MSP7 and HS7. I currently have the HS7. I must say I loved the BM15's for listening. Of course they were not as pretty as some of the other Dynaudio hifi products, but the sound was huge. I really regret selling those, but had to downsize due to various reasons.

This summer, it seems that I found my way back to Dynaudio speakers again. The hifi system of my dad needed to be updated from 70's Tandberg system. I found a good deal on Dynaudio DM3/7 floor standers and a budget Onkyo stereo receiver for him. He is really happy about the upgrade. While at it, I decided to get some Dynaudio speakers for myself too. I was looking for the DM2/7's or 2nd hand Focus 140. The DM's were all sold out and I did not find any Focus 140, so I was considering the new Emit M20's, but also got a nice offer on a pair of Excite X18's. After reading here and some other places about the X18, X14 and Focus 160, I ordered a pair with Walnut finish. I almost went with the Emit M20's, but the shiny black turned me away. I would have preferred the DM2/7 looks. I should receive the X18's in 2-3 weeks, as they need to be built in Denmark first. I found a good deal on 2nd hand Rotel RB1552 mk2 with balanced inputs, so picked that up. I have good experience with the RB980BX + BM15 combo, so I am expecting good results with the new amp too. I ordered the X18's without previewing them first, but did quite extensive survey online first with discussions comparing to other models. I am not looking for a huge bass extension, but require precision in mid and high frequencies. I don't want the speaker to tame or smooth out the sound. I will post here my experiences, when I receive the speakers. First, I need to break them in properly.

It is a shame that there is relatively little amount of discussion of the X18. It seems like the Emit M20, Excite X14 and the Focus 160 are more popular. For my use, the Focus 160 would have been too expensive, and possibly offering too much bass extension considering how I need to install them. I am not worried about the tweeter not being the same as the Focus 160. Considering what Dynaudio has said about the X18, it should be a lot of speaker for the money.
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Well, sorry to be the barer of mixed news. I was under the impression that I HAD made an appointment via e-mail with a rep. but I guess this information was not passed on to the rep. who was there this morning. There were competing appointments, so I did not get to compare. The long and short of it is that I had a brief, say 45 minute audition with S40 but not under ideal circumstances. Not ideal setting, amplification, etc. I will do my best to try again soon to make a more formal appointment to compare the two.

From what I heard: sounded great, fine, but really I can't draw any conclusions at this point.

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I plan to compare S40 and C20 this afternoon. Details to come.
Looking forward to your thoughts. When I heard the C20s, I honestly wasn't that blown away, considering the $5650 for the grey finish.

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Hi guys, new here. I am a long-time Dynaudio user, but more on their professional series. I have a home studio, where I work with headphones but also use small monitor speakers time to time. Previously I have used Mackie HR626, Dynaudio BM5A, Dynaudio BM15 passive with Rotel RB980BX, Focal Twin 6 BE, Yamaha MSP7 and HS7. I currently have the HS7. I must say I loved the BM15's for listening. Of course they were not as pretty as some of the other Dynaudio hifi products, but the sound was huge. I really regret selling those, but had to downsize due to various reasons.

This summer, it seems that I found my way back to Dynaudio speakers again. The hifi system of my dad needed to be updated from 70's Tandberg system. I found a good deal on Dynaudio DM3/7 floor standers and a budget Onkyo stereo receiver for him. He is really happy about the upgrade. While at it, I decided to get some Dynaudio speakers for myself too. I was looking for the DM2/7's or 2nd hand Focus 140. The DM's were all sold out and I did not find any Focus 140, so I was considering the new Emit M20's, but also got a nice offer on a pair of Excite X18's. After reading here and some other places about the X18, X14 and Focus 160, I ordered a pair with Walnut finish. I almost went with the Emit M20's, but the shiny black turned me away. I would have preferred the DM2/7 looks. I should receive the X18's in 2-3 weeks, as they need to be built in Denmark first. I found a good deal on 2nd hand Rotel RB1552 mk2 with balanced inputs, so picked that up. I have good experience with the RB980BX + BM15 combo, so I am expecting good results with the new amp too. I ordered the X18's without previewing them first, but did quite extensive survey online first with discussions comparing to other models. I am not looking for a huge bass extension, but require precision in mid and high frequencies. I don't want the speaker to tame or smooth out the sound. I will post here my experiences, when I receive the speakers. First, I need to break them in properly.

It is a shame that there is relatively little amount of discussion of the X18. It seems like the Emit M20, Excite X14 and the Focus 160 are more popular. For my use, the Focus 160 would have been too expensive, and possibly offering too much bass extension considering how I need to install them. I am not worried about the tweeter not being the same as the Focus 160. Considering what Dynaudio has said about the X18, it should be a lot of speaker for the money.
None of us has anything against X18. I think it's just that, on one hand the M20s offer amazing performance per dollar, and on the other hand, this forum is full of (current/past) Focus fans. Many, including myself, owned Focus 160 and felt it also offered amazing performance and value on a higher end of the spectrum. Since X18 is a de-tuned version of Focus 160, I guess many of the Focus fans don't see the point.

Current HiFi: Dynaudio Focus 260 | Schiit Modi2 Multibit (Black) | NAIM SuperNait 2
Cables: Chord Cobra VEE3 RCA>DIN | Tellurium Q Black 3M

Past HiFi: Dynaudio Excite X16 | Dynaudio Focus 160 | Harman Kardon HK3490 | NAIM XS2 (70w)
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