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The S40 doesn't have a Grey Oak. Grey Birch

And the Contour 20 at their price point is kick A$$.

George, this is being disingenuous of you. After pushing the Raidwhore D1s at $27K, both the Contour 20 and the S40 would kick the D1's a$$
For the money I agree. I never said the Ho's are cheap. BUT IMO I like the sound of the Ho's a lot more. To me they sound like a highly refined Dyn. They may lack some low end but the lows they do are a lot cleaner. Also to me the mids and highs are also more refined. BTW you do know I don't have the D1's anymore. They were replaced with D2's and now D2.1's. I have no plans of going up the ladder anymore. Larger speakers in my room have a much taller sound stage which I don't like.

As far as the grey they would be my choice regardless of the wood used.
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I have two new products to market: Snake Oil and Fairy Dust.

You all know I've been on this price/pound kick, but these new products are so expensive that I have to price them at fluid ounces for the Snake Oil and dry ounces for the Fairy Dust. In keeping with the high-end cable market, I only put a 10,000% markup on these products. They work; trust me, believe me.

Everything is based on Quantum Mechanics. I have an advanced degree in Applied Physics. They work; trust me, believe me

How to use these new audiophile products?

Let's address the Snake Oil first:
Put a dab of Snake Oil on a soft cloth and lightly rub your speaker drivers and your chassis of electronic equipment. Also you can rub a little on your speaker body; it will add protection to the finish plus the other glorious benefits. Put a dab on the end of all your interconnects and speaker cables. Turn those $200 cables into high-end $40K MIT or Transparent Audio cables. Win, win. They work; trust me, believe me.

Your cloth will still have some residue left, so when no one i.s looking, dab the end of your member...instant hardness and gratification.They work; trust me, believe me.
It also works as a vaginal lubricant. They work; trust me, believe me.

Now for the Fairy Dust:
This product is a little bit more difficult to implement because it is so light and airy.
Take a 1/4 teaspoon and place it on an index card. Place it front of your component and lightly blow. This works for speakers and cables also. You will get a light coating on your electronics, cables, and speakers. Gently leave the room and close the door. Wait for at least 12 hours as the Fairy Dust has to burn into the substrate. Those $1000 components will now sound like $30,000. Those $3,000 speakers will now sound like $75,000 speakers.
They work; trust me, believe me.

Not only does the Fairy Dust and the Snake Oil dramatically increase the performance of your system (including your personal hardness and performance), the two products also create an aura around you stereo system that makes it look much more expensive than it really is. They work; trust me, believe me.

Disclaimer*
We did countless hours of both qualitative and subjective analysis. We threw out the qualitative because it just didn't measure up to our subjective analysis.

I forgot Price: We are offering an introductory price of only $5,000 per fluid ounce for the Snake Oil and only $6,000 per ounce of the Fairy Dust.

This is an incredible bargain at these prices
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I forgot Price: We are offering an introductory price of only $5,000 per fluid ounce for the Snake Oil and only $6,000 per ounce of the Fairy Dust.

This is an incredible bargain at these prices
Where can I buy the Snake Oil?!
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I have two new products to market: Snake Oil and Fairy Dust.
Well written ! I think I will reuse this

They work; trust me, believe me

as acronym TTB.
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Where can I buy the Snake Oil?!
I have to do a new LLC. Currently, I'm selling these products through my ocean-front real estate company based in Utah.
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Well written ! I think I will reuse this

They work; trust me, believe me

as acronym TTB.
Sorry Frank, that's copyrighted, trademarked, and patented.

Along with my Ocean-front real estate businesses in Utah, NM, Arizona, and Colorado. I'lll be opening some Eastern branches in Kentucky and West Virginia soon.

Business has been really slow, so I'm hoping my Snake Oil and Fairy Dust will compensate.
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Sorry Frank, that's copyrighted, trademarked, and patented.

Along with my Ocean-front real estate businesses in Utah, NM, Arizona, and Colorado. I'lll be opening some Eastern branches in Kentucky and West Virginia soon.

Business has been really slow, so I'm hoping my Snake Oil and Fairy Dust will compensate.
I think you'd do well opening a storefront in the mountains of Oklahoma and Kansas, and the broad farmlands in the Boston-Providence corridor!

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I think you'd do well opening a storefront in the mountains of Oklahoma and Kansas, and the broad farmlands in the Boston-Providence corridor!
That's the ticket. If I can't sell oceanfront property, maybe I can sell mountain property in Oklahoma and Kansas. Let's hope for the next geological upheaval.

Hey George, you want to invest? It's a sure bet. They work; trust me, believe me
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Possible SQ upgrade...Xeo 3
Most of my listening is done from laptop (USB to transmitter) and iphone (3.5mm to transmitter) playing all types of files (from youtube videos to mp3 and hi-res files).
As Xeo 3 has a dac of it's own, would I really hear an upgrade in SQ if I put Dragonfly red into the mix? Does it even make any sense?
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Possible SQ upgrade...Xeo 3
Most of my listening is done from laptop (USB to transmitter) and iphone (3.5mm to transmitter) playing all types of files (from youtube videos to mp3 and hi-res files).
As Xeo 3 has a dac of it's own, would I really hear an upgrade in SQ if I put Dragonfly red into the mix? Does it even make any sense?
Unfortunately no. You would be doing D/A to transmitter, then A/D from transmitter to XEO3, and then D/A in XEO 3 again. During these conversions, SQ degrades.

Best option is to keep it digital all the way, and do D/A only at the XEO3, i.e. use digital inputs in the transmitter.

do you hear a difference b/w usb to transmitter and 3.5 iphone to transmitter?
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I finally got to briefly listen to the S40's today powered by a Rega integrated and regular cables. According to the guy at the shop they were well broken in. They presented like a MUCH larger speaker than they are, I was quite impressed with how wide the soundstage was with them. I can see why people are liking them so much!

I also listened to a pair of X18's that were being run by a Simaudio Moon integrated with Valhalla 2 wiring and a Qkore, they sounded quite nice, but not as nice as the S40's in spite of being run with big dollar equipment.
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Unfortunately no. You would be doing D/A to transmitter, then A/D from transmitter to XEO3, and then D/A in XEO 3 again. During these conversions, SQ degrades.

Best option is to keep it digital all the way, and do D/A only at the XEO3, i.e. use digital inputs in the transmitter.

do you hear a difference b/w usb to transmitter and 3.5 iphone to transmitter?
Thanks for your reply.
Laptop (usb) gives noticeably better SQ than iphone 8 (3.5mm).
PS: Now I ordered Audioquest Jitterbug. Maybe it'll improve the signal a bit...
http://www.audioquest.com/jitterbug/jitterbug

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Thanks for your reply.
Laptop (usb) gives noticeably better SQ than iphone 8 (3.5mm).
PS: Now I ordered Audioquest Jitterbug. Maybe it'll improve the signal a bit...
http://www.audioquest.com/jitterbug/jitterbug
It wont since D/A is happening in XEO3, not the transmiter. And also Audioquest is a sneak oil company. TTB.
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Glad you got to hear the 40's YONSON,they do sound bigger than their size,I ended up returning the Q-Kore and base I had on demo,not worth the money in my system...I may look into Borderdog's snake oil and fairy dust next.
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Glad you got to hear the 40's YONSON,they do sound bigger than their size,I ended up returning the Q-Kore and base I had on demo,not worth the money in my system...I may look into Borderdog's snake oil and fairy dust next.
So now Nordost claims that even grounding lines are "polluted"? They could use some of that creativity to introduce something useful to the market, rather than shelling out products which make no difference with huge markups.
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I've met both the Nordost and Audioquest reps a couple times at events my dealer holds. In talking to them I found the Audioquest guy was a little more inclined to talk about their Niagara power conditioners (which seem to offer at least a little over-voltage protection) rather than snake oil cables. The Nordost rep was clearly full of the company Kool Aid and spewing it thick.

I do not begrudge people who say they hear a difference. If you can, good for you. I'll remain blissful in my ignorance and have a little more money in my pocket to upgrade what REALLY makes the biggest diference....SPEAKERS.
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A friend of mine e-mailed Dynaudio to find out if there was any significant difference between the new Sub 6 and 18S, which do appear to be identical apart from some grille mounts on the Sub 6.
Well, he got a reply which, to me, displays nothing but world-class douche-baggery by Dynaudio.
The Sub 6 and 18S have DSP profiles built-in to match them with other Dyns. However, apparently the Sub 6 has profiles only for consumer models, and the 18S has profiles for the professional ones.
I feel that this limitation does nothing but to alienate owners, such as myself, who own speakers from both lines.
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Hm, given that you created a profile to post that suggests that you have been really triggered!
Can you share the Dynaudio e-mail response?
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Haha, well picked up. Yes, newb to this site, but this issue did annoy me.
I'll ask my friend to forward it to me. He only received it today.
I'm interested to see if anyone else feels that this is a slightly cynical move on Dynaudio's part.
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Hm, given that you created a profile to post that suggests that you have been really triggered!
Can you share the Dynaudio e-mail response?
In these situations, I find it's useful to see the email that was sent originally, too.
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Haha, well picked up. Yes, newb to this site, but this issue did annoy me.
I'll ask my friend to forward it to me. He only received it today.
I'm interested to see if anyone else feels that this is a slightly cynical move on Dynaudio's part.
Ofcourse you would not be the only one, but we have to make sure that Dynaudio can, but won't cross-support the HiFi and Pro ranges.
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A friend of mine e-mailed Dynaudio to find out if there was any significant difference between the new Sub 6 and 18S, which do appear to be identical apart from some grille mounts on the Sub 6.
Well, he got a reply which, to me, displays nothing but world-class douche-baggery by Dynaudio.
The Sub 6 and 18S have DSP profiles built-in to match them with other Dyns. However, apparently the Sub 6 has profiles only for consumer models, and the 18S has profiles for the professional ones.
I feel that this limitation does nothing but to alienate owners, such as myself, who own speakers from both lines.
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hey folks, yet another newb here I recently purchased a pair of the red S40s and now eagerly awaiting delivery in a week or so

While i had demo'ed them with Octave/NAD amps, I need some suggestions with setup and partnering equipment. Here are some quick requirements - 3:1 music:movies, need to connect BD player/Xbox/Wii/CableTV, music will be CDs or flac from NAS, listening room size is 17'x19', mostly listen at low/medium volume and pretty much all genres of music, dont need more than 2.1 channel, would like to keep the budget ~$3K.

I was thinking buying a Marantz sr5012 to connect all my devices. The pre-outs would go to an external amp. Have not decided on the amp either - Parasound a21 (would a23 suffice?), Rotel RB-1582 MkII, etc. Is there any other way i can achieve the setup without avr? Will the avr cause noticeable drop in SQ? How imp is HT bypass? Really appreciate if you can share personal experience and any suggestions/feedback! Thanks!
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However, apparently the Sub 6 has profiles only for consumer models, and the 18S has profiles for the professional ones.
I feel that this limitation does nothing but to alienate owners, such as myself, who own speakers from both lines.
Not being snarky at all, but this seems perfectly reasonable to me. One is a consumer model and one is a pro model. It would be nice if they would program flexibility in firmware to accommodate both, but certainly shouldent be expected.
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hey folks, yet another newb here I recently purchased a pair of the red S40s and now eagerly awaiting delivery in a week or so

While i had demo'ed them with Octave/NAD amps, I need some suggestions with setup and partnering equipment. Here are some quick requirements - 3:1 music:movies, need to connect BD player/Xbox/Wii/CableTV, music will be CDs or flac from NAS, listening room size is 17'x19', mostly listen at low/medium volume and pretty much all genres of music, dont need more than 2.1 channel, would like to keep the budget ~$3K.

I was thinking buying a Marantz sr5012 to connect all my devices. The pre-outs would go to an external amp. Have not decided on the amp either - Parasound a21 (would a23 suffice?), Rotel RB-1582 MkII, etc. Is there any other way i can achieve the setup without avr? Will the avr cause noticeable drop in SQ? How imp is HT bypass? Really appreciate if you can share personal experience and any suggestions/feedback! Thanks!
I just use my TV for HDMI switching and use the TV line outs for watching any type of video output. Er actually that is how I have done it in the past, these days I use my oppo 103 for HDMI switching it has 2 inputs which is enough for me.

I don't think using an AVR as a pre is a huge compromise, however, I think those fine speakers deserve a nice 2 channel integrated. If you need the bass managment features of the AVR, you can substitute a variety of mini dsp which is amazingly flexible.
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Yeap same here. No need for a HT AVR. Even the Marantz AV8802 I had was not that great with 2 channel music. I am pure 2 channel now and love it. Simple and sounds great even with movies.

I use my TV as HDMI switcher and send audio out over ARC to Oppo 205 for processing. Then straight analog to a 2 channel integrated. I purposely got an integrated without any digital inputs and other streaming crap in it.

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hey folks, yet another newb here I recently purchased a pair of the red S40s and now eagerly awaiting delivery in a week or so

While i had demo'ed them with Octave/NAD amps, I need some suggestions with setup and partnering equipment. Here are some quick requirements - 3:1 music:movies, need to connect BD player/Xbox/Wii/CableTV, music will be CDs or flac from NAS, listening room size is 17'x19', mostly listen at low/medium volume and pretty much all genres of music, dont need more than 2.1 channel, would like to keep the budget ~$3K.

I was thinking buying a Marantz sr5012 to connect all my devices. The pre-outs would go to an external amp. Have not decided on the amp either - Parasound a21 (would a23 suffice?), Rotel RB-1582 MkII, etc. Is there any other way i can achieve the setup without avr? Will the avr cause noticeable drop in SQ? How imp is HT bypass? Really appreciate if you can share personal experience and any suggestions/feedback! Thanks!
Good choice on S40s. What did you have before? My ratio is same as yours 3:1.

Speaking only from my experience and preferences,

I would refrain from Marantz and Denon (same owner) as I had terrible quality control experiences with multiple products of theirs in 500$-1000$ range.

What I would do is I would get good DAC&streamer and feed it to integrated or power amp, which would let me avoid AVR.

Since I like Arcam, I would get irDac II and feed it with xBox/Wii/Cable via TVs optical or coaxial. For NAS/Tidal/Spotify/Youtube etc I would use Chromecast to TV and sound from same optical or coax to irDac II. Or get rPlay, or AirDac for streaming (but I like Chromecast Ultra since I can stream videos). Also, you can connect BD/CD players too and use Arcams DAC for higher quality sound.

This would make your irDac II as your preamp with source selection and volume control essentially, which you can use to connect power amps or integrated amps. For power - Arcam A39 (120w both channels) or P429 (125w both channels). Any good amp above 100w is plenty sufficient for S40s. All within your budget.. would be a great system.

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