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Please elaborate.

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Please elaborate.

I'm blue-eyed blonde with big boobs.

Sorry, I should have mentioned this earlier.
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Thanks for the new XD info and pics.

I just don't know how to feel about all of this convergence in my speakers. My (hour long) demo with the Xeo5 just left me feeling a little tepid. And even by launching the Xeo4 and 6 so soon with tweaks, I think Dynaudio realizes that their first attempt was not perfect. I had wireless transmission issues with the Xeo5, and as I have said before, it perhaps didn't play as loud and with as much authority as I would have liked.

So I think something like the Xeo4 is more or less safe as the expense is not that great but this XD stuff is a completely different price class. Are people who can afford these really looking for convenience? Are they really looking forward to not demoing amps, mixing, and matching? I don't think so. I think the people who can afford XD stuff are also hobbyists who want to tweak and add "high-end" separates to their equally high-end speakers. I mean, when I have guests I don't want to just show off my beautiful Dynaudio speakers, I want them to see my beautiful McIntosh amp as well. (I don't have a McIntosh; just giving an example.)

Besides, has anyone else notices that one finds quite a few Focus 110A models on the used market?

I think if I were Dynaudio, I would do a few things to my (home) product line. IMO they have too many lines and too much overlap. This is all creates confusion.

1) Eliminate the DM AND Sub series.
2) Refresh the Excite line with magnetic grilles and improved stands (done). Perhaps only offer X14, X24C, and X34 models. No 3-way model; upgrade to Focus necessary for this.
3) Refresh the Focus line (Series III) with certain design features of the New Excite line like the magnetic grills and stands but keep the two lines distinct from an audio perspective. Perhaps differentiate cabinet design with some Contour design aspects. Increase price. Perhaps only offer 160, 210C, and 340 or 380 model variants. Not both 340 and 380. No 260.
4) Eliminate Contour.
5) Refresh the Confidence line with magnetic grills, etc. Keep the C1, Center, and C2. No C4.
6) Eliminate Consequence.
7) Build one halo product around the $50-$100K price like Evidence Platinum. Just one model.
8) Experiment with a new line below the Excite series. Perhaps the only model line built elsewhere...like China. Leverage the Dynaudio brand but attempt to keep margins high with lower cost to build. Model is designed to attract buyers into upgraded models. Here is where you experiment with built-in amps and wireless features where buyers are looking for quality but have thinner budgets.
9) Continue to release SE speakers that mix and match technologies with rare finishes.

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Hey guys... if you know anywhere or anyone who is selling a pair of gently used Dynaudio C4 Signature for a great price please send me a pm? BTW what is considered a good price on pair of used one these days? They came out last year right? I live in Arizona. Thanks!
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Thanks for the new XD info and pics.

I just don't know how to feel about all of this convergence in my speakers. My (hour long) demo with the Xeo5 just left me feeling a little tepid. And even by launching the Xeo4 and 6 so soon with tweaks, I think Dynaudio realizes that their first attempt was not perfect. I had wireless transmission issues with the Xeo5, and as I have said before, it perhaps didn't play as loud and with as much authority as I would have liked.

So I think something like the Xeo4 is more or less safe as the expense is not that great but this XD stuff is a completely different price class. Are people who can afford these really looking for convenience? Are they really looking forward to not demoing amps, mixing, and matching? I don't think so. I think the people who can afford XD stuff are also hobbyists who want to tweak and add "high-end" separates to their equally high-end speakers. I mean, when I have guests I don't want to just show off my beautiful Dynaudio speakers, I want them to see my beautiful McIntosh amp as well. (I don't have a McIntosh; just giving an example.)

Besides, has anyone else notices that one finds quite a few Focus 110A models on the used market?

I think if I were Dynaudio, I would do a few things to my (home) product line. IMO they have too many lines and too much overlap. This is all creates confusion.

1) Eliminate the DM AND Sub series.
2) Refresh the Excite line with magnetic grilles and improved stands (done). Perhaps only offer X14, X24C, and X34 models. No 3-way model; upgrade to Focus necessary for this.
3) Refresh the Focus line (Series III) with certain design features of the New Excite line like the magnetic grills and stands but keep the two lines distinct from an audio perspective. Perhaps differentiate cabinet design with some Contour design aspects. Increase price. Perhaps only offer 160, 210C, and 340 or 380 model variants. Not both 340 and 380. No 260.
4) Eliminate Contour.
5) Refresh the Confidence line with magnetic grills, etc. Keep the C1, Center, and C2. No C4.
6) Eliminate Consequence.
7) Build one halo product around the $50-$100K price like Evidence Platinum. Just one model.
8) Experiment with a new line below the Excite series. Perhaps the only model line built elsewhere...like China. Leverage the Dynaudio brand but attempt to keep margins high with lower cost to build. Model is designed to attract buyers into upgraded models. Here is where you experiment with built-in amps and wireless features where buyers are looking for quality but have thinner budgets.
9) Continue to release SE speakers that mix and match technologies with rare finishes.

I agree with most of your thoughts. Frankly there needs to be a good sounding entry level for people to get into and for Dynaudio to push at more mass market stores to get the name out there. If you get rid of the DM line then you will have to make the Excite series less expensive. Or you Eliminate the Excite series and go with the DM line and then Focus which I think makes more sense. This happen recently to Dali as well and they have now reduced the number lines they have as well, but they need to go further. Zensor/Ikon/Rubicon/Epicon and a few others they need to get rid of as well.
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