Originally Posted by gn77b
Long time no post and weird thing is that I'm not sharing a Dynaudio experience, but a Raidho one. Let's say that the (former, speaking about Dyna) country of origin and woofer appearance similarity of the speakers will excuse me.
My audiophile self has been on stanby for a while but I visited an acquaintance to listen to his system. It's made of Raidho Eben X3 speakers, YBA Passion 1000 amp and preamp, Meridian 808 CD player and Chord Cute DAC. Audiophile cabling throughout (couldn't care less about the brand or type details).
Well, I'm happy to say that I'm not ashamed with my relatively modest system (Dynaudio Confidence 3, Audio Refinement Complete amp and some obscure locally-made DAC). I'd never imagined myself saying this but damn a 40k system can be imperfect.
The sound was fast and precise but there was a definite lack of bass, considering the huge amp and the speakers which are 3x the size of mine (with 4 woofers each).
This hobby is weird. I found myself wondering if I'd buy such sound for real music listening (not silly audiophile toying), even at quarter the new price, with money won in the lottery.
Don't get me wrong. It was definitely better compared to what I have. It's damn fast and there are those moments when that tiny detail jumps at you and you start wondering how you failed to notice that it's a separate instrument, not just "something" in the sound mix. It was fast, vigurous string plucking or rim shots felt like they were stinging me, but it in no way compensates for the lack of bass. The imaging was very good too but I'd expected extension beyond the physical positions of the speakers which wasn't there.
Maybe it sounds like I'm nitpicking but I really don't. I'm convinced that I cound never ignore that lack of deep bass. An expensive system shouldn't be tonally imbalanced because that's where much of the enjoyment is. That's the first thing to get right. The rest is icing on the cake.
I'm not sure how to conclude. Should I be happy because my system wasn't put to shame? Should I be unhappy because perfect sound seems hard to achieve? I guess I'm happy that my upgrade compulsion hasn't been revived.
Gn, good post; so this is not directed specifically at you. Nor am I trying to pick a fight, with the Dyn guys...who may invariably disagree. The following is just my opinion...based on experiences, philosophy, and taste.
But I think "we"...audiophiles, those with a propensity for big-nuts, big-power systems; or just Americans, lol? Look for too much bass.
They're the hardest frequencies to get right; they pull ALL the power. And in a design, that doesn't quite nail it...it smears mids, and f*cks the FR balance all up too.
I've used this analogy a lot; but it just keeps coming back to me, as being wholly fitting. In the days when flat-screens were first coming out...and AV geeks, were obsessing over calibration; something came to light (pun intended). An accurate
display, is seemingly...a little dull and dark.
J. Gordon Holt, said the same thing...about a flat frequency response. Yes...when you're used, to a thumping low end; when you hear a pair of speakers without it, for the first time...man, is it missed. But if you get passed it...and really give said speakers a chance; if they're good...I think you'll find a more revealing and transparent presentation.
It's all a matter, of what you...and your ears...get used to. Because once you get used to that speaker, with seemingly little bass response; a thundering low-end, will sound like a ghetto-blaster to you