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Any idea which models will survive? I just don't know if it makes sense to sell an Excite X34 alongside a re-branded Focus 260??? How will that work?

I wonder if pricing will shift down for these "new" Excite speakers, driving used market values down even more...

Will all this be sorted out by Munich in 2 weeks?
This has been coming for a long time. I am sure they have all the details worked out.

I know there are two new models at least of Excite coming out at the end of summer. My guess is they will be similar to the 160 and 380

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Garman...there's a difference between posting a pic, and saying "I own these and I like 'em"; and comparing speakers. Dont'cha think?


In fact...I was pretty careful, not to compare; especially here (although some would say, I was less than completely successful...lol ).


It's well-documented, Dyns have some of the biggest bass...pound-for-pound...in the hi-end. So comparing them to ScanSonic, and their 4.5" drivers; just seems like an exercise in futility to me.
I completely agree, I guess you missed my large hint at sarcasm as well.
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This has been coming for a long time. I am sure they have all the details worked out.

I know there are two new models at least of Excite coming out at the end of summer. My guess is they will be similar to the 160 and 380
Of all the speakers to save, they chose the 380?

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Well some of that makes sense...

The X16 for example had no New Excite successor so the 160 becoming say the X18 makes sense. But if the X18 costs less than $2900 new then the used market for the 160 gets worse.

But it sounds like the Focus 260 and 340 will become "rarer" commodities of price:performance goodness???

Though I don't see how the X38 survives alongside a re-branded Focus 380. Same with the X34.

If I were Dynaudio...as I have written many times...I would simplify a lot too.

This would be it...

Traditional, Passive Line:
Excite X14
Excite X18 (aka Focus 160)
Excite X35 (aka Focus 260)
Excite X40 (aka Focus 380)
Confidence C1P*
Confidence C2P*
Confidence C4P*
Evidence Platinum*

*Or even augment/replace these with NEW PRODUCT, Ribbon-Tweeter, Raidho/Scansonic competitor line(s)

Active Line:
XD100 (Based on both Excite X14A and Xeo4)
XD200 (Based on X18 / Focus 160)
XD400 (Based on X35 / Focus 260)
XD600 (Based on X40 / Focus 380)

Other:
+ 1x Digital Hub for ALL Active models
+ 1-3x Wireless/Center Speaker models (or not if going away from HT)
+ 1-3x Wireless/Subwoofer models (or not if going away from HT)
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JMO but they should have kept the focus, ditched the excite and contours. Expanded the DM line. I know the contours have longevity and history, but it really seems like its time has come. Again JMO.

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Well some of that makes sense...

This would be it...

Traditional, Passive Line:
Excite X14
Excite X18 (aka Focus 160)
Excite X35 (aka Focus 260)
Excite X40 (aka Focus 380)
Confidence C1P*
Confidence C2P*
Evidence Platinum*

*Or even augment/replace these with NEW PRODUCT, Ribbon-Tweeter, Raidho/Scansonic competitor line(s)

Active Line:
XD100 (Based on both Excite X14A and Xeo4)
XD200 (Based on X18 / Focus 160)
XD400 (Based on X35 / Focus 260)
XD600 (Based on X40 / Focus 380)

Other:
+ 1x Digital Hub for ALL Active models
+ 1-3x Wireless/Center Speaker models (or not if going away from HT)
+ 1-3x Wireless/Subwoofer models (or not if going away from HT)
Is this known fact or is it just speculation?
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Is this known fact or is it just speculation?
Speculation, more hopefully will be known at the show in Munich..... Not sure what is going to happen with the XD line, might be too expensive of a speaker to make and just is too expensive for the masses, and after hearing them at the show, I wasn't all that impressed.
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Well some of that makes sense...

The X16 for example had no New Excite successor so the 160 becoming say the X18 makes sense. But if the X18 costs less than $2900 new then the used market for the 160 gets worse.

But it sounds like the Focus 260 and 340 will become "rarer" commodities of priceerformance goodness???

Though I don't see how the X38 survives alongside a re-branded Focus 380. Same with the X34.

If I were Dynaudio...as I have written many times...I would simplify a lot too.

This would be it...

Traditional, Passive Line:
Excite X14
Excite X18 (aka Focus 160)
Excite X35 (aka Focus 260)
Excite X40 (aka Focus 380)
Confidence C1P*
Confidence C2P*
Evidence Platinum*

*Or even augment/replace these with NEW PRODUCT, Ribbon-Tweeter, Raidho/Scansonic competitor line(s)

Active Line:
XD100 (Based on both Excite X14A and Xeo4)
XD200 (Based on X18 / Focus 160)
XD400 (Based on X35 / Focus 260)
XD600 (Based on X40 / Focus 380)

Other:
+ 1x Digital Hub for ALL Active models
+ 1-3x Wireless/Center Speaker models (or not if going away from HT)
+ 1-3x Wireless/Subwoofer models (or not if going away from HT)
GT - you have to keep the Confidence C4P for those that need a bit more than the C2 but can't afford the Evidence P's
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Whatever they decide to do it will have to be better then the excites.... It will have to change what the current contours are, cause I personally don't like them. But they'll have to improve upon what I have in the 260s which I feel are the ultimate best value Dynaudio speaker you can buy. I personally would have done things differently. But I guess I'm biased!

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Yes, the above was simply speculation on my part / trying to put myself in the shoes of Dynaudio's product manager.

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On a german website one user mentioned that Dynaudio is considering implementing space/room correction into the XD line. This would be possible with the digital inputs only.

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On a german website one user mentioned that Dynaudio is considering implementing space/room correction into the XD line. This would be possible with the digital inputs only.
They do permit firmware upgrades...so sure...

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On a german website one user mentioned that Dynaudio is considering implementing space/room correction into the XD line. This would be possible with the digital inputs only.
Any talk on the DE forum about the latest news? Canceling the Focus line, etc.?

Which forum is it by chance? Ich kann auch Deutsch lesen...

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Yes, the above was simply speculation on my part / trying to put myself in the shoes of Dynaudio's product manager.
Of course.... But I would have done it differently;

DM2/6 V2 $699
DM2/7 V2 $999
DM3/7 V2 $1799
DM3/8 $2499 (3-way similar to the Audience 82)
DM Center $699

Focus 130 $1700 (aka X14 design)
Focus 160 $2900
Focus 230 $3900 (aka X34 design)
Focus 260 $5000
Focus 340 $8500
Focus 210C $2000

XD130 $3000
XD200 $4600
XD230 $5800
XD400 $7000
XD600 $10000
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This line covers the xeo and XD lines.

Special Edition bookshelf $6500
Use the older warmer Dyn sound, not the current dead on neutral sound.

C1P $8500
C2P $17000
C4P $25000
C Center $7000


Evidence models

Let me honest, the people here that wanted to see new Contours are also rather bored with the current Contour line; and the LE didn't make them jump on board either. People here that have had the Contours have bought Focus speakers. I've heard dealers say they don't stock much Contours because the interest is declining over the last couple years.

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Let me honest, the people here that wanted to see new Contours are also rather bored with the current Contour line; and the LE didn't make them jump on board either. People here that have had the Contours have bought Focus speakers. I've heard dealers say they don't stock much Contours because the interest is declining over the last couple years.
So much so, in the States; that my speculation has always been...it must be a different story elsewhere.

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Of course.... But I would have done it differently;

DM2/6 V2 $699
DM2/7 V2 $999
DM3/7 V2 $1799
DM3/8 $2499 (3-way similar to the Audience 82)
DM Center $699

Focus 130 $1700 (aka X14 design)
Focus 160 $2900
Focus 230 $3900 (aka X34 design)
Focus 260 $5000
Focus 340 $8500
Focus 210C $2000

XD130 $3000
XD200 $4600
XD230 $5800
XD400 $7000
XD600 $10000
Hub
This line covers the xeo and XD lines.

Special Edition bookshelf $6500
Use the older warmer Dyn sound, not the current dead on neutral sound.

C1P $8500
C2P $17000
C4P $25000
C Center $7000


Evidence models

Let me honest, the people here that wanted to see new Contours are also rather bored with the current Contour line; and the LE didn't make them jump on board either. People here that have had the Contours have bought Focus speakers. I've heard dealers say they don't stock much Contours because the interest is declining over the last couple years.
Callas01: Good point, but in Europe the Contours were a much better seller as they are base on a more of a Europen/Scandinavian look. It would be nice to see a redesign of a Confidence C1 bookshelf using Evidence drivers! I still love the sound of the Contour 1.3 and 1.3SE, ironically they don't look very different than the Focus line.
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So much so, in the States; that my speculation has always been...it must be a different story elsewhere.
Yes, I hear it's different in China, their largest market!

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Also, the Consequence sold at a higher volume in Asia. I have a dealer who's a family friend in Taiwan who told me this, but I don't know how much the trend extends beyond his shop.

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Their website has been thoroughly updated. I see that for the Focus line maple veneer has been replaced by Cherry. There are perhaps other changes as well.

I guess this is just the beginning...
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