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post #25891 of 25906 Old 05-23-2015, 09:50 PM
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I look forward to that comparison. Something tells me the 160 will hold its own.
As it should; the price point is fairly similar as well. I think at that point it would be "different" instead of better, something based on preference as opposed to pure superiority.

I've been listening for about an hour at fairly low volumes, around 60db, and my ears started ringing around 25-30 minutes. It's just vocals, so I'm not sure what's going on. This never happened with the 140s unless I cranked them for a while; the whole experience is a bit frustrating since I really wanted a pair of 160s or 260s for the longest time.

The plan is moving towards buying a pair of 2.5s, and seeing if my dealer will let me compare with the 160s and then keep the pair I like better.

At this point, I would definitely say that the 160s are more realistic sounding than the 140s.


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Again I wonder about your source/amplification. Maybe your combo is treble-forward? Can you try them with something else?

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As it should; the price point is fairly similar as well. I think at that point it would be "different" instead of better, something based on preference as opposed to pure superiority.

I've been listening for about an hour at fairly low volumes, around 60db, and my ears started ringing around 25-30 minutes. It's just vocals, so I'm not sure what's going on. This never happened with the 140s unless I cranked them for a while; the whole experience is a bit frustrating since I really wanted a pair of 160s or 260s for the longest time.

The plan is moving towards buying a pair of 2.5s, and seeing if my dealer will let me compare with the 160s and then keep the pair I like better.

At this point, I would definitely say that the 160s are more realistic sounding than the 140s.
Interesting that your ears started ringing so quickly. I can sit and listen for hours, or like last night watching American Sniper at -10 dbs on my marantz with no issues.

Yesterday one of my part time guys came to use my work truck cause we have a customer that can't go 3-days without being stocked up, well anyways his dad bought one of my older systems and his brother-in-law has another setup (DIYer) and he was liking the build quality of the Dyns. So I pointed to the rack and said pick something out, he wanted Skyfall, so we jumped scenes between very quiet and action scenes and he was said "even loud they sound so clear and detailed, mine sounds like a mess when it's loud. I also like they aren't bugging my ears like my BILs does." Then I played Chris Cornells Songbook Black Hole Sun, because I know he's a big soundgarden fan, and he says "I've heard this song 100 times and it's never sounded like that." Like what? "Like so live and I can hear the pick and steel strings, his breathing, the reverb and IDK, but it seems like I can hear the building he's in."

Now he wants to come over for a movie night. I told him bring his GF, that way we can meet her before we all go see incubus in concert this summer.
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Interesting that your ears started ringing so quickly. I can sit and listen for hours, or like last night watching American Sniper at -10 dbs on my marantz with no issues.

Yesterday one of my part time guys came to use my work truck cause we have a customer that can't go 3-days without being stocked up, well anyways his dad bought one of my older systems and his brother-in-law has another setup (DIYer) and he was liking the build quality of the Dyns. So I pointed to the rack and said pick something out, he wanted Skyfall, so we jumped scenes between very quiet and action scenes and he was said "even loud they sound so clear and detailed, mine sounds like a mess when it's loud. I also like they aren't bugging my ears like my BILs does." Then I played Chris Cornells Songbook Black Hole Sun, because I know he's a big soundgarden fan, and he says "I've heard this song 100 times and it's never sounded like that." Like what? "Like so live and I can hear the pick and steel strings, his breathing, the reverb and IDK, but it seems like I can hear the building he's in."
I think I'm getting used to the sound a bit more now, less ringing today! The big thing I hope is that no one takes this as me bashing Dynaudio; I'm just giving my thoughts as I have them.

I would again point out that these sound much more realistic, but I find myself wincing at a few of the high peaks that I didn't wince at before. I'd be willing to bet at this point, switching back to the 140s will make me feel that the earlier Dyns are slightly muddy, honky, and veiled.

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I think I'm getting used to the sound a bit more now, less ringing today! The big thing I hope is that no one takes this as me bashing Dynaudio; I'm just giving my thoughts as I have them.

I would again point out that these sound much more realistic, but I find myself wincing at a few of the high peaks that I didn't wince at before. I'd be willing to bet at this point, switching back to the 140s will make me feel that the earlier Dyns are slightly muddy, honky, and veiled.
Never thought you were bashing the 160s. I think it's more about getting famiar with a different sound and the openness of them. I think they're similar to the S25s and Sapphires sound signature, based on what I heard listening to the sapphires at my dealer. I originally thought they were bright also, but I eventually found that while they're a more tipped up sound, it was also very open.

I do think you will find the 140s dark and the bass slightly slower sounding.
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Never thought you were bashing the 160s. I think it's more about getting famiar with a different sound and the openness of them. I think they're similar to the S25s and Sapphires sound signature, based on what I heard listening to the sapphires at my dealer. I originally thought they were bright also, but I eventually found that while they're a more tipped up sound, it was also very open.

I do think you will find the 140s dark and the bass slightly slower sounding.
Just reinstalled my 140s. Muffled, emphasized mids, but warmer and less fatiguing. The bass is comparable between the two. The sound stage with the 160s feels larger with both speakers in the exact location, but I think that might be a product of the extended highs.

I wonder if I'll have to accept fatigue with more accurate highs. I never felt that I got fatigued after listening to my dad's Harbeths at higher volumes but was still able to enjoy a very clear sound without any hump in the mids.


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I never felt that I got fatigued after listening to my dad's Harbeths at higher volumes but was still able to enjoy a very clear sound without any hump in the mids.
Your dad has Harbies? What flavor??

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As I said before any fatigue I/she had disappeared after leaving the HK for NAIM. The wife really has no idea what's going on to that detail. She may see a new box in the cabinet but then her complaints about high range frequencies at high volumes also disappeared.
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30.1. Do you still have yours?

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Interesting that your ears started ringing so quickly. I can sit and listen for hours, or like last night watching American Sniper at -10 dbs on my marantz with no issues.

Yesterday one of my part time guys came to use my work truck cause we have a customer that can't go 3-days without being stocked up, well anyways his dad bought one of my older systems and his brother-in-law has another setup (DIYer) and he was liking the build quality of the Dyns. So I pointed to the rack and said pick something out, he wanted Skyfall, so we jumped scenes between very quiet and action scenes and he was said "even loud they sound so clear and detailed, mine sounds like a mess when it's loud. I also like they aren't bugging my ears like my BILs does." Then I played Chris Cornells Songbook Black Hole Sun, because I know he's a big soundgarden fan, and he says "I've heard this song 100 times and it's never sounded like that." Like what? "Like so live and I can hear the pick and steel strings, his breathing, the reverb and IDK, but it seems like I can hear the building he's in."

Now he wants to come over for a movie night. I told him bring his GF, that way we can meet her before we all go see incubus in concert this summer.
What Marantz unit do you use? I have the 7005 receiver, I plan on updating to the 4K model once they make the decision on the new HDMI spec, otherwise a lot of people are going to be standing out in the cold when the new spec comes with new receivers and you find out your HDMI cable or TV won't work with it, I hope there is a way to make it backwards compatible but I doubt it. So first comes the new 4K projector then receiver etc.. So far the Marantz seems to do the best with the Dynaudios for HT, at least for me.
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What Marantz unit do you use? I have the 7005 receiver, I plan on updating to the 4K model once they make the decision on the new HDMI spec, otherwise a lot of people are going to be standing out in the cold when the new spec comes with new receivers and you find out your HDMI cable or TV won't work with it, I hope there is a way to make it backwards compatible but I doubt it. So first comes the new 4K projector then receiver etc.. So far the Marantz seems to do the best with the Dynaudios for HT, at least for me.
I have the 7007. I don't really care about 4k, I won't be jumping on it right away. I'll be a late adopter; ironically I was an early adopter of Bly-Ray tho!

I have mixed emotions on the marantz, I liked that the Integra was more dynamic if only a little leaner sounding. The marantz is punchier, warmer but requires it to be turned up higher to reach the same dynamic level. For instance, -14 dbs on the Integra is like -10 dbs on the marantz.

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Callas01: I have both Marantz and Integra which is up at my Lake House, which it is hooked up to a 7.1 system. Just doesn't get much use, but I plan on going up this week to do some maintenence so I will have a chance to crank it up.
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