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post #26371 of 26400 Old 07-29-2015, 11:39 AM
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I have not received the 3rd C1 yet, they did not have 3 in the US, however my plan is to drive it from 1 channel of another HCA-1000A.
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Speaking for C1s, here are a few pictures of the Originals and MKII that I had.. I had a chance to compare them I didn't notice any major differences but I did with the C2 (originals) and newer Platinums, as noted via Georges and my ears.

http://www.parasound.com/vintage/hca1000a.php


From a technically standpoint they are not bad Amp, but I think if your looking at doing that much 2 channel listening your better off with a decent Int. Amp with HT pass through, that way you can use the Amp for the front two channels use your HCA-1000 you have now for the center, and when your just listening to music run your front channels through the Int. Amp, kind of the best of both worlds. The Musical Fidelity piece even has more clean power going to them and will do 400wpc into a 4ohms.

http://www.musicalfidelity.com/uploa...a55int_eng.pdf

You just price the HT/Aux button on the front of the Amp and it will bypass the Pre/Amp and Act as just an Amp and you can run the Outlaw pre/amp as you where before. The A3.5. A5 and A5.5 all had this feature as do some other manufactures.
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Speaking for C1s, here are a few pictures of the Originals and MKII that I had.. I had a chance to compare them I didn't notice any major differences but I did with the C2 (originals) and newer Platinums, as noted via Georges and my ears.

http://www.parasound.com/vintage/hca1000a.php


From a technically standpoint they are not bad Amp, but I think if your looking at doing that much 2 channel listening your better off with a decent Int. Amp with HT pass through, that way you can use the Amp for the front two channels use your HCA-1000 you have now for the center, and when your just listening to music run your front channels through the Int. Amp, kind of the best of both worlds. The Musical Fidelity piece even has more clean power going to them and will do 400wpc into a 4ohms.

http://www.musicalfidelity.com/uploa...a55int_eng.pdf

You just price the HT/Aux button on the front of the Amp and it will bypass the Pre/Amp and Act as just an Amp and you can run the Outlaw pre/amp as you where before. The A3.5. A5 and A5.5 all had this feature as do some other manufactures.
How would you compare the SS 2.5s to the C1s. Mostly referring to the bass output and spl output, not trying for a which sounds better debate.
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How would you compare the SS 2.5s to the C1s. Mostly referring to the bass output and spl output, not trying for a which sounds better debate.
I would say the 2.5's will go a little bit lower and louder. After all the 2.5's have dual woofers and a larger cabinet.
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Thought you guys might find this of interest; since this is a subject...kind of on Dyn owner's minds these days.

Would you buy a 10K Chinese Made Speaker labelled Made in USA ??

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Thought you guys might find this of interest; since this is a subject...kind of on Dyn owner's minds these days.

Would you buy a 10K Chinese Made Speaker labelled Made in USA ??
Cd,i did not read the whole link,youre not telling us that dyn's are now being manufactured in China are you
That would piss some people off.Are you still waiting on your stands?

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How would you compare the SS 2.5s to the C1s. Mostly referring to the bass output and spl output, not trying for a which sounds better debate.
I never had a pair of 2.5 and C1's at the same time, so I wouldn't know and I wouldn't want to go off an assumption. Those are older pictures of my C1s...


CD: That thread will go downhill fast, I don't think the FTC even has a grip anymore trying to explain it. We got Dynaudio owned by the Chinese still made in Denmark and Germany and they you have Raidho/Scansonic, where the cabinets are made in China.... This amount of confusion for the consumer is ridiculous but the amount of profits I am sure are much greater for companies having certain things made in China... I have never been a fan of ChiFi gear, some of it isn't bad but the amount of profits they are making if everything is made there is very profitable for them. I get the whole global playing field etc.. but the global market place is far from fair, when you don't have to follow strict guidelines when building some thing in Europe or the US verses China. Radio and Scansonics cabinets are made in China, too keep the cost down, the problem is the speakers are still overly expensive, well the Raidho are.
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Thought you guys might find this of interest; since this is a subject...kind of on Dyn owner's minds these days.

Would you buy a 10K Chinese Made Speaker labelled Made in USA ??
Mislabeling is one thing but for all who thinks China is all that bad remember where Apple products are made I still say the finish on the Raidho D1 and D2 is better than the C1 and C4 Signatures.
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Mislabeling is one thing but for all who thinks China is all that bad remember where Apple products are made I still say the finish on the Raidho D1 and D2 is better than the C1 and C4 Signatures.
I bit more honesty/truthfulness in labeling would be nice but I don't think that will happen. Greed drives a lot of decision making in business; I think most of us would acknowledge that, hence the moves to Asia. Sadly, they do not have the type of safety controls we have here for protection.

That said, show the Chinese what you want and they can and will figure out how to make it. It's up to the specifier to decide the acceptable levels of production quality. I have an iPhone and it seems manufactured rather well for my purposes. I've no doubts on their skills. We badmouthed Japan for decades until they showed us they could make better products than we could.

After all that I believe it comes down to one's personal world view and prejudices.
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Cd,i did not read the whole link,youre not telling us that dyn's are now being manufactured in China are you
That would piss some people off.Are you still waiting on your stands?
Yeah; I think most probably skimmed it. The point is not so much Chinese production means inferior quality (and I'm on record as a fan of Chi-Fi; however...electronics and wood/cabinet-making, are different ballgames; especially amid some of the reports about Chinese wood). The point is more...should a speaker be labeled "made in the USA", if the cabinet is made in China...the drivers are from Scandinavia; and the crossover is likely outsourced too.

I have no horse in this race; but Craig (the OP) is a friend, and I do see his point.

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I bit more honesty/truthfulness in labeling would be nice but I don't think that will happen. Greed drives a lot of decision making in business; I think most of us would acknowledge that, hence the moves to Asia. Sadly, they do not have the type of safety controls we have here for protection.

That said, show the Chinese what you want and they can and will figure out how to make it. It's up to the specifier to decide the acceptable levels of production quality. I have an iPhone and it seems manufactured rather well for my purposes. I've no doubts on their skills. We badmouthed Japan for decades until they showed us they could make better products than we could.

After all that I believe it comes down to one's personal world view and prejudices.
Naim released an all in one player last year...the "Muso",which is built in China.This irritated some of the die-hard fans,apparently they have one of their British engineers over there to ensure/oversee the quality control.They say there was no way to produce this "entry level" unit in England and keep the cost down where it is.I have heard this unit,quite good for what it is

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Guys ,just picked up my new Cary 500.1 mono-block for my confidence center...I will not have time today to hook it up
but i will get it playing tomorrow.It should be interesting to see/hear what 1000 watts can do for the confidence center

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Nice buddy! I'm sure that'll sound really good. When are the XD600s arriving?

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Nice buddy! I'm sure that'll sound really good. When are the XD600s arriving?
Should be about 3 more weeks callas,This weekend I am going to use my excite 12's for L/R front channels,the neat iota's for surrounds...AND now the new Cary monoblock on the confidence centerI will probably let it play 24/7 for a couple of weeks to break it in,I will post my impressions

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Yeah; I think most probably skimmed it. The point is not so much Chinese production means inferior quality (and I'm on record as a fan of Chi-Fi; however...electronics and wood/cabinet-making, are different ballgames; especially amid some of the reports about Chinese wood). The point is more...should a speaker be labeled "made in the USA", if the cabinet is made in China...the drivers are from Scandinavia; and the crossover is likely outsourced too.

I have no horse in this race; but Craig (the OP) is a friend, and I do see his point.

Yes; I am still waiting on my stands NQ. I was hoping they'd be here for the weekend; but it looks like Monday
The Chinese make some good stuff, but I agree with your friend and just posted my opinion and left it at that. But that thread should become interesting as the days go by! The Chinese are notorious at ripping stuff off, heck hackers have infiltrated the us government and stolen identification information from millions of Americans, the amount of corruption in that country is leaps and bounds far worse than ours, but we keep feeding it! I communist government but with capitalistic ways ever since Britain gave back Hong Kong, very odd country, people craving for freedom and free equal rights but it falls on deaf ears on the World because every other country is taking advantage of their cheap labor laws, no environmental laws and almost non-exisitant Patent Laws. It will be a very interesting 5-10 years that is for sure, our current President has been so lack luster on political affairs with China and the Middle East it will take decades to repair what he is "Not" doing now.

George: There are a lot of good stuff made in China for other companies via a very specific and strict specs of the company having it made their. The issue is how long will that last before the company making for Apple steals everything and starts off on it's own. Case and point "Lenovo" most of those Chinese Engineers were at one time working for IBM, they left too start their own company and then came back and bought IBM laptop division out. Now Apple was at least smart enough to move their Mac Pro back to the states last I heard but I doubt if that will last. Everyone is taking advantage of the Chinese cheap labor at what cost, is the big question down the road.

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well guys,first impressions of the cary monoblock on the confidence center...Fantastic,just so much headroom,It feels like a top fuel funny car sitting at the lights...waiting to unleash all that powerI mainly listened to blueray concerts so far,both eric clapton crossroads bluerays andalso musicares tribute to bruce springsteen.I did not re-calibrate the system yet so i am using the settings i had with the c1s in place,so obviously things will be much better when i do that,i am not going to bother for now because ultimately the focus xds will be here in a few weeks.Only one little problem...i am getting a buzzing coming out of the center that i can hear with nothing playing,i think it must be a ground loop,i tried plugging into different outlets but got the same thing,any suggestions?Now i know why this thread is so dead...you guys are all over on the raidho thread
I read the first ten pages...lots more reading to do,as octa-dyn knows ,i may go demo the x1 in a few weeks for my empty spot in the 2-channel rig,any other thoughts on this speaker?I already heard george's impressions

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I think it's quiet here cause we are all listening to our systems enjoying them, or out having a life! While they're all trying to convince everyone how good their systems sound.

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Have been in Germany for work for 5 of the past 6 weeks. Fly home for one day before turning around for vacation in Paris and two Greek islands. No time for HiFi
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That sounds terrible!

How about we switch and you can come to 105 degrees with high humidity in California and work 12 hr days and I'll go to Paris and Greece.

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Not to get too political but the Germans have pretty much figured it out...

But everything they do would be labeled Communist in the USA.

What do I love about their culture?

(Listed in no particular order.)

-They can't have pride in their nation/flag/anthem/military (See WWI & II) so they take pride in education, innovation, precision and manufacturing prowess.
-It starts with their Constitution that holds as its #1 goal to maintain and promote human dignity (See WWI & II) and not just the Pursuit of Happiness.
-Or maybe it starts with a baked-in "free range" attitude of parents. Playgrounds are designed to challenge; kids are supposed to fall and hurt themselves. Take risks. Get back up. And since they don't have yellow school buses, kids walk/ride bikes/ride public transport at early ages and become street smart.
-Germany has 9 neighbors; Germans therefore typically speak 2-3 languages fluently upon high school graduation. Kids are internationally informed, they travel, and know more about politics in the US than you do!
-Part of that growing up early thing: German school kids are "tracked" to either university or vacation starting around grade 6. At around 16/17, they are applying for and interviewing for paid apprenticeship positions with the likes of Porsche, BMW....all the way down to your local baker.
-Germany has a youth unemployment rate of around 7% (ages 15-25). See above.
-The German state of Baden-Württemberg accounts for about 4.2% of the world's industrial output. (France as a whole accounts for 4.1%.)
-Germans have more vacation days per capita than just about anyone.
-German moms have one year of paid maternity leave. They can take up to 3 years. And can't lose their job. German dads can take up to a year as well.
-Pride in presentation: Germans are immaculate hosts.
-Environmental consciousness is baked in from birth: green is everywhere. From plants at the office to the balcony at home to trash separation into 4 bins to solar and wind energy everywhere.
-Wanderlust: cities are built around "being green" in Germany and the ability to hike an Alpine mountain or explore a forest is central to the German ethos.
-Natural consciousness is baked in from birth: No Monsanto, no GMOs, nada. A full cart of organic food probably costs 20% of what Whole Foods charges.
-Porsche/BMW/Audi/Mercedes: Germans love their cars and love to drive.
-Beer. Need I say more?
-Beer fests. Need I say more?
-Open containers permitted everywhere, on any street, in any city. Are you sure you live in the Land of the Free?
-Welfare safety net, universal healthcare, etc. Remember that part about Human Dignity in their Constitution?
-Love for dogs. Dogs can be everywhere: on trains, in restaurants, in shopping malls, in hotels, etc.
-Collective memory of the atrocities of the past (Holocaust). Memorials, monuments, tripping stones, human rights education, anti-bullying education, anti-racist/right wing education, etc.
-No prison industrial complex. Peer groups in schools take a "no blame" approach to resolving bullying.
-History: everywhere you look, town or building or church or townhall dates back about 1000 years.
-No Citizens United: federal election campaigns last about 6 weeks and funding is public.
-What you have is a strong middle class.
-Awesome public transportation system from one side of the country to the other.
-Not a litigious society. No attitude of Lottery by Lawsuit.

I could go on and on. But yeah, you would have to pay more income taxes in Germany. And we wouldn't be able to "afford" our military budget.

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well guys,first impressions of the cary monoblock on the confidence center...Fantastic,just so much headroom,It feels like a top fuel funny car sitting at the lights...waiting to unleash all that powerI mainly listened to blueray concerts so far,both eric clapton crossroads bluerays andalso musicares tribute to bruce springsteen.I did not re-calibrate the system yet so i am using the settings i had with the c1s in place,so obviously things will be much better when i do that,i am not going to bother for now because ultimately the focus xds will be here in a few weeks.Only one little problem...i am getting a buzzing coming out of the center that i can hear with nothing playing,i think it must be a ground loop,i tried plugging into different outlets but got the same thing,any suggestions?
Usually a ground loop is a hum not a buzz. With only the amp (no pre or source) on and speakers connected do you still get a buzz? If not start connecting the pre and sources to identify whats causing it.
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Usually a ground loop is a hum not a buzz. With only the amp (no pre or source) on and speakers connected do you still get a buzz? If not start connecting the pre and sources to identify whats causing it.
hi george,Yes the buzz is there if i only have the amp powered on,with the pre and source powered down,but not unplugged.
I was going to try pulling it out of the theater room and hooking it up to a speaker upstairs next,i did not try disconnecting the pre/source cables completely yet.I wonder if it is just a trait of the big transformer in it?Any suggestions would be appreciated...my dealer is on vacation this week It is noticeable at low volumes,really annoying.

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If it's a transformer you should hear the buzz from the amp. But try disconnecting all inputs. I know this sounds strange but make sure no compact florescent lights are on anywhere in the house. Also if you have a cable box for television try powering it down and disconnecting that too..
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If it's a transformer you should hear the buzz from the amp. But try disconnecting all inputs. I know this sounds strange but make sure no compact florescent lights are on anywhere in the house. Also if you have a cable box for television try powering it down and disconnecting that too..
George,i ended up bringing the amp upstairs and hooked it to a different wall outlet,same result,then i tried a different speaker cable and different power cord,same result,then i tried plugging it into my oyaide power distributer bar,same result.I don't have a cable box,i use i free to air antenna,no satellite dish either.The only other thing i can think of is i have LED lights in the home-theater on a dimmer switch.I may try turning the breaker off on them...other than that,i will have to wait until friday,when my dealer returns from vacation,see what he saysOh yeah,also when i did the "testing",i used a different speaker than the dyn.

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George,i ended up bringing the amp upstairs and hooked it to a different wall outlet,same result,then i tried a different speaker cable and different power cord,same result,then i tried plugging it into my oyaide power distributer bar,same result.I don't have a cable box,i use i free to air antenna,no satellite dish either.The only other thing i can think of is i have LED lights in the home-theater on a dimmer switch.I may try turning the breaker off on them...other than that,i will have to wait until friday,when my dealer returns from vacation,see what he saysOh yeah,also when i did the "testing",i used a different speaker than the dyn.
It could be a ground loop problem as I have had them in the past.. ;( If the plug is a 3 pronged plug try putting a simple cheater plug on the end of it and plug it in and see if you have the same issue. Basically your turning your 3 pronged plug into a 2.. I have to admit a simple fix that worked for me in the past. (Not recommended because of equipment not being grounded) You can get a loop or a buzz with a grounding issue, also depending on how the Amp was made etc...

http://www.audioholics.com/home-thea...m-hum-and-buzz <<<<<< this article is a good one, notice the cheater plug with a red X through it, I usually only use one of these if I have exhausted all other ways of fixing it.

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It could be a ground loop problem as I have had them in the past.. ;( If the plug is a 3 pronged plug try putting a simple cheater plug on the end of it and plug it in and see if you have the same issue. Basically your turning your 3 pronged plug into a 2.. I have to admit a simple fix that worked for me in the past. (Not recommended because of equipment not being grounded) You can get a loop or a buzz with a grounding issue, also depending on how the Amp was made etc...

http://www.audioholics.com/home-thea...m-hum-and-buzz <<<<<< this article is a good one, notice the cheater plug with a red X through it, I usually only use one of these if I have exhausted all other ways of fixing it.
Garman,I don't have one of those...do you have a pic?Can I get one at best-buy,Hardware store?I do remember a little buzz with the Cary 200.2 that I traded for the 500.1,but this seems a bit louder

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Garman,I don't have one of those...do you have a pic?Can I get one at best-buy,Hardware store?I do remember a little buzz with the Cary 200.2 that I traded for the 500.1,but this seems a bit louder
It's pictured on the link I gave you, I would try that last. Dimmers or loose outlets or bad outlets can cause issues. I need to replace one in my HT room, I had major issue with a Rogue Audio Int. Amp, it had a hum and I hated it because of that, sure enough I moved Amp and it still had an issue, so in my case it was a grounding wiring issue with the unit itself and I was able to get it fixed, then I sold it. lol Still using one of their pre/amps which I like. It could be transformer hum if the transformer isn't isolated enough in the unit, I would also try balanced cables and non-balanced to see if there is a difference as well. How far away are you where you hear it? Now don't go pressing your ear against the tweeter either! lol
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Garman,i see the pic now in that article,they say NOT to use those don't they?Good article though...they do mention if you have powered subwoofers hooked up or dimmer swittches.The thing is ,i brought the amp to another part of the house and tried it on a completely different circuit,i don't think that still having the subs on, or the breaker not off on the dimmer ,would affect it should it?I will experiment more tomorrow.

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Garman,i see the pic now in that article,they say NOT to use those don't they?Good article though...they do mention if you have powered subwoofers hooked up or dimmer swittches.The thing is ,i brought the amp to another part of the house and tried it on a completely different circuit,i don't think that still having the subs on, or the breaker not off on the dimmer ,would affect it should it?I will experiment more tomorrow.
Tripping all breakers in the house except for where it is plugged in would prove it's not in your homes wiring. The fact it also happened with another cary amp kind of makes me believe it may very well be an amp problem. I also wouldn't think a ground loop would be heard with nothing else but a speaker connected.
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