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Hi all. I am setting up a second media area and need to satisfy my needs for big sound and wifes objection to large speakers. I tried Bose AM 10 series III and that was a huge mistake. In my opinion they sound hollow, not full. The area is two rooms, the kitchen area where I will be sitting at a bar most of the time looking down into the den where the equipment will be which is approximately 10x12. There is a fireplace in the middle of the den with a 50" plasma above it. The front speakers will sit on the mantle, which is only 7" deep. Therein lies my problem. Wife says no to tower speakers. I can hide the rears and sub. Center speaker is limited in size also as it needs to fit under plasma (no taller than 3 3/4"). I will be listening to 75% HT (mostly TV) but I'm a audio lover from way back and want music to sound good. Receiver will most likely be Denon AVR 3805 or 2807. I'm willing to spend up to $2000 on 5.1 system. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Check this site. They are internet only but do give you a 30 free in home trial and they have a shipping special going on. These little things get rave reviews and should satisify the waf.

www.orbaudio.com

Found a current thread on Orbs here. Should be alble to get alot of useful info. I don't even need small speakers and I'm considering them after finding these threads for you, haha

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=695825
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Wow, thanks, I'm seriously interested.
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I own the Orbs as well, I needed to go small as I put a full set in a 5th wheel. I highly recommend these speakers if you want great sound and size is a consideration. They do a great job.

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I own the Orbs as well, I needed to go small as I put a full set in a 5th wheel. I highly recommend these speakers if you want great sound and size is a consideration. They do a great job.
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Let me get this straight, you are looking for a center channel that is less than 4 inches tall? If so, good luck with that one buddy.

Honestly man, I would tell the wife that you will agree to the no floor standers rule, but that you want to mount some bookshelf speakers. If she agrees, check these packages out:
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I had a lot of success setting up my parent's Ht with the Hsu Ventriloquist system. They really surprised me with how good they sounded and everyone that has heard them has been impressed.

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I had a lot of success setting up my parent's Ht with the Hsu Ventriloquist system. They really surprised me with how good they sounded and everyone that has heard them has been impressed.
I set up a set of these with a Hsu STF-2 in my Parents' family room. Sounds great.

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I'm using monitor audio radius 90's for my surrounds--they are small and sound great. For the center, I'm using the radius 225, which is about 4.5 inches tall.
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I would look at Def Tech Mythos Gems and a Mythos 7 center. Their subs are excellent also.
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Bose Acoustimass systems are small and are rated for 200w per channel. They offer BIG sound.
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Bose Acoustimass systems are small and are rated for 200w per channel. They offer BIG sound.
Don't take this rudely but your proof of another targeted victim of Bose. Bose has mediocre equipment at ridiculously high prices. The amount spent on a Bose system will buy you something sounding BILLIONS times better...and MOST of the time costing less! The quality of materials used in any Bose component is an insult to any conciensence comsumer and yet they tell you it's the best.

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Don't take this rudely but your proof of another targeted victim of Bose. Bose has mediocre equipment at ridiculously high prices. The amount spent on a Bose system will buy you something sounding BILLIONS times better...and MOST of the time costing less! The quality of materials used in any Bose component is an insult to any conciensence comsumer and yet they tell you it's the best.
He has been recommending Bose all over the place. He is either a paid Bose rep or spoiling for a fight. :p
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Bose Acoustimass systems are small and are rated for 200w per channel. They offer BIG sound.
Ok, I should cut you some slack because I've been guilty of this before...

But you obviously didn't read the OP...he's already demoed BLOSE.

Or if you did: your cover is blown, you ARE a BLOSE rep!
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The biggest sounding small speakers I've heard are the Jensen CJR
50hz @-3db with just 5 1/4" woofers and under 1 foot I think.

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Hi all. I am setting up a second media area and need to satisfy my needs for big sound and wifes objection to large speakers. I tried Bose AM 10 series III and that was a huge mistake. In my opinion they sound hollow, not full. The area is two rooms, the kitchen area where I will be sitting at a bar most of the time looking down into the den where the equipment will be which is approximately 10x12. There is a fireplace in the middle of the den with a 50" plasma above it. The front speakers will sit on the mantle, which is only 7" deep. Therein lies my problem. Wife says no to tower speakers. I can hide the rears and sub. Center speaker is limited in size also as it needs to fit under plasma (no taller than 3 3/4"). I will be listening to 75% HT (mostly TV) but I'm a audio lover from way back and want music to sound good. Receiver will most likely be Denon AVR 3805 or 2807. I'm willing to spend up to $2000 on 5.1 system. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Bad-ass, clean-big-sounding, high-quality, beautiful, little speakers...........

http://www.energy-speakers.com/v2/pr...ine.php?id=318

The Mini's come with a very neat, built-in, wall-mounting system that works great! I installed two for surrounds within an hour.

Beautiful real wood veneer's, and classy piano black available finishes. But great sounding as well.
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Bad-ass, clean-big-sounding, high-quality, beautiful, little speakers...........

http://www.energy-speakers.com/v2/pr...ine.php?id=318
Where did you buy those things? I'm a fan of Energy anyway I would really like to hear them. I'm in Palos Verdes...Thanks

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Where did you buy those things? I'm a fan of Energy anyway I would really like to hear them. I'm in Palos Verdes...Thanks
yeah............they're still somewhat new on the market, and are just now beginning to show up in dealer showrooms. Any Energy dealer can order them if they don't have them. One major dealer in the L.A./Southern California area is Ken Cranes. There are others as well.

To be honest I purchased these by phone, from Audio Excellence, without test-listening. I'm a huge Energy fan, I appreciate the level of engineering & design they put into their products. Beautiful form & function! Good price as well.
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yeah............they're still somewhat new on the market, and are just now beginning to show up in dealer showrooms. Any Energy dealer can order them if they don't have them. One major dealer in the L.A./Southern California area is Ken Cranes. There are others as well.

To be honest I purchased these by phone, from Audio Excellence, without test-listening. I'm a huge Energy fan, I appreciate the level of engineering & design they put into their products. Beautiful form & function! Good price as well.
I just called Ken Cranes, thanks for the heads up.

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The front speakers will sit on the mantle, which is only 7" deep. Therein lies my problem. Wife says no to tower speakers. I can hide the rears and sub. Center speaker is limited in size also as it needs to fit under plasma (no taller than 3 3/4"). I will be listening to 75% HT (mostly TV) but I'm a audio lover from way back and want music to sound good. Receiver will most likely be Denon AVR 3805 or 2807. I'm willing to spend up to $2000 on 5.1 system. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
These speakers are just under 7" deep and can go flush against your wall since they are sealed enclosures --- with a good sub will provide excellent music enjoyment:

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages...00/htm200.html

I'd get 3 of these and put them on your mantel, then wall mount the 2 rears. With the Hsu STF-2 sub, you're looking at $1080 shipped which leaves you plenty for the receiver.
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Nice pair of larger in-walls, or flat panel monitors, close to plasma, phantom center.
Looks will win over the wife, you'll get bigger, better sound.

Don't keep upgrading, get great stuff right away.
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might also want to audition paradigm mini monitors..
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I had a lot of success setting up my parent's Ht with the Hsu Ventriloquist system. They really surprised me with how good they sounded and everyone that has heard them has been impressed.
HSU has some new satellite coming out with horns in em! they look great, id wait for those if youre going to buy HSU
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