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Thx, seems that 9.1 and above make up 9% of those who have responded,


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I posted this as the start of another thread. I guess I should have posted here. Any info would be great.

Hate to start a whole new thread on this, but I recently saw an Atlantic Technology Pattern model 100 in a second hand store for $69.99. Wondering if anyone knows much about these. I'm hoping I put this post in the correct forum. I think it's some sort of sub or amp or something. Can't find much online about it. Anyone know about this?

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I am using a pair of AT 274 TSR's from the 270 THX Series as my SIDE Surround Speakers in a 7.1 Home Theater setup....been reading now about the "latest" using additional 2 speakers in Front/HIGH In combo with one's Front L/R Speakers.
I am trying to find out if it would be SAFE to Bi-Amp the afore mentioned speakers with my Surround Back Speakers and then mount them high in front L/R?

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I tried to edit old post but the pictures didn't show...????
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Looks great. What are you powering them with and have you painted the grills to match the wall color? Nice job on the build?
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I recently saw an Atlantic Technology Pattern model 100 in a second hand store for $69.99. I think it's some sort of sub or amp or something. Anyone know about this?
Kicked off the multi-media speaker category, with a 3-channel amp in the subwoofer to power itself and the 2 satellite speakers. Three sources could plug directly into the sub via analogue RCA connectors. I think the designer went off to make similar but smaller versions for Altec.

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I was curious I currently have a Atlantic Technology 450THX speakers and wanted to upgrade to 7.1 speakers, would it work well to change the front towers with the 8200E AT towers and then move my older towers as the surround speakers ?
Would using my old center with these sound strange,etc ?

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I was curious I currently have a Atlantic Technology 450THX speakers and wanted to upgrade to 7.1 speakers, would it work well to change the front towers with the 8200E AT towers and then move my older towers as the surround speakers ?
Would using my old center with these sound strange,etc ?

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I upgraded to the 8200e speakers from 350 THX speakers. Not sure how close the 350 and 450 series are, but I think the 8200e's sound too different from the 350's to use together. Using the older ones for surround might be fine, but having a 450 for the center channel mixed with 8200e's for L/R would probably would not work ...would hear too much of a difference when panning.

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Would using my old center with these sound strange,etc ?
Not strange, just inconsistent when sounds move across the soundstage. Instead, I would try to find Atlantic Technology bookshelf speakers that sounded similar to the speakers you have now and use them as rears.

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I have two pair of mint condition 8200e surrounds for sale - that mate perfectly with the 8200e fronts. Great price. PM me if interested.
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I upgraded to the 8200e speakers from 350 THX speakers. Not sure how close the 350 and 450 series are, but I think the 8200e's sound too different from the 350's to use together. Using the older ones for surround might be fine, but having a 450 for the center channel mixed with 8200e's for L/R would probably would not work ...would hear too much of a difference when panning.
Is there any way to find timbre matched speakers easily ? I want to also add ceiling speakers in the future for Dolby Atmos and would prefer not to buy an entire new set of speakers.

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Is there any way to find timbre matched speakers easily ? I want to also add ceiling speakers in the future for Dolby Atmos and would prefer not to buy an entire new set of speakers.

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And would the 6200 e match better since they have the same size drivers?
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Hi. I have a 7.2 system, the 8200e and the THX select book shelfs for the back speakers. I love the sound of these speakers. I use the pioneer SC-09tx to power them and sound great.

There isnt many places that sell them, its to bad cause there a great speaker.

I read somewhere that they will soon have some kind of auto sub calibration, cant wait.

Just need to get 4 inceiling speakers for ATMOS
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And would the 6200 e match better since they have the same size drivers?
I have 6200e L/R speakers that I'm using for wide speakers to complement the 8200e L/R main speakers. Also use 4400 Surrounds for my height speakers. I even tried a pair of 1400srz as my height speakers and blended nicely with the 8200e speakers ...until I blew them out after a couple of hours. Most of the newer Atlantic Tech speakers work well together, but again, you may not get good results trying to use the older 450 speakers combined with newer ones. Drivers are constructed of different materials and speakers have an overall different sound. I still have my THX 350's and tried to use the surrounds as my height speakers. They did not mix well with the 8200e L/R speakers.

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Does anyone know where I can get stands for my System 450 THX (451 LR's) Back in the day I got 2 extra 451's, now I want to use them with stands. Hard to find being that the System 450 is older.
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Does anyone know where I can get stands for my System 450 THX (451 LR's) Back in the day I got 2 extra 451's, now I want to use them with stands. Hard to find being that the System 450 is older.

Suggest you setup a watch on EBay, 450 pieces come up from time to time.


Also the front stands are a fairly simple design and could possibly be duplicated. That would make a great excuse to buy some nice woodworking tools, table saw, miter saw, router, sander, etc.
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Suggest you setup a watch on EBay, 450 pieces come up from time to time.


Also the front stands are a fairly simple design and could possibly be duplicated. That would make a great excuse to buy some nice woodworking tools, table saw, miter saw, router, sander, etc.
Then you could build your own subwoofers too.

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Suggest you setup a watch on EBay, 450 pieces come up from time to time.


Also the front stands are a fairly simple design and could possibly be duplicated. That would make a great excuse to buy some nice woodworking tools, table saw, miter saw, router, sander, etc.

I think in my younger years I would attempt to build. I have a full 450 set with stands. They are beautiful my craftsmanship would not compare. I want to use the 2 exrta 451s for my basement.

The system 450 is such an amazing set. I never see them on sale.
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While we're on the subject, anyone have a clue as to where I could pick up the side panels for the original 8200s and stands.

I wouldn't mind making them myself but I think my wife might hurt me given the list of projects I already have waiting.

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I have a 272 PBM sub that I've had for years. It's been plugged into a Meridian 561 or G68 for the last 10 years. I'm switching to a two channel setup with a McIntosh C2500 preamp and two Mc352's. Two questions:

1. Is it worth looking at newer subs?
2. If not, how the heck do I hook this sub up to a tube preamp with no sub out?
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Atlantic Technology

Introduces Revolutionary 44-DA Speaker Module for New Dolby Atmos® Sound Technology



NORWOOD, MA (8/27/14) -- Atlantic Technology today announced the introduction of its revolutionary new 44-DA Dolby Atmos-enabled speaker module for home theater use.
Dolby Atmos is a new technology developed by Dolby Laboratories that adds an unprecedented degree of realism to movie soundtracks. Dolby Atmos is an object based audio format that allows sound mixers to accurately define the specific location of an audio object in a 3 dimensional listening space. This represents a significant departure from the confines and limitations of channel based audio mixing and playback formats. To create the vertical sense of space and layer of sound above the listener that is essential for a lifelike, believable sonic event, the Dolby Atmos renderer in a Dolby Atmos enabled AV receiver adapts the soundtrack to the individual speaker layout in a home theater system. With Dolby Atmos, sound comes alive from all directions, including overhead, to fill the home theater with astonishing power, detail, and depth.

To fully realize the benefit and effect of this multi-dimensional sound technology in the home, and recreate the layer of sound above the listener, specially engineered speakers with extremely precise frequency response and directional sound radiation characteristics are needed. Atlantic Technology chose to develop an attractive compact Dolby Atmos enabled "module" that could be added to its own existing systems or, for that matter, to ANY existing home theater.

The new Atlantic Technology 44-DA Dolby Atmos-enabled loudspeaker module utilizes a 5 ¼" woofer and 1" silk dome tweeter in a concentric driver array (CDA), firing from the top of the speaker enclosure at a precisely-determined angle, to achieve the optimum effect. Particular attention has been paid to delivering a "controlled acoustic scatter" in an effort to dramatically broaden the sweet spot of the sound reflected by the ceiling, allowing for greater placement flexibility within the listening room.
Upon seeing and hearing the first working sample from Atlantic Technology, Dolby decided to feature the Atlantic system in closed door partner demonstrations at last year's CEDIA. Later that year, Dolby provided its employees a glimpse into the future of home entertainment when it featured this system during its worldwide sales and marketing conference.

Measuring just 5 ½ x 8 3/8 x 9 ½" HWD, the Atlantic 44 DA compact speaker module is designed to fit perfectly on top of Atlantic's THX-certified 4400 LR speakers, creating an integrated, "one-piece" look that delivers the stunning realism of Dolby Atmos soundtracks with clarity and precision. In addition, because of their compact design and power handling ability, the 44-DA's are well-suited to being used on top of other speakers or, equally important, as "stand-alone" elevation speakers as part of a complete Dolby Atmos system.

"The availability of the 44-DA facilitates the transformation of an ordinary home theater into an extraordinary listening experience for the custom installer and home theater enthusiast alike. The 44-DA represents the next step forward in delivering a truly believable sonic theater experience in the home. I am proud that Atlantic's advanced engineering--working closely with Dolby--has produced this revolutionary loudspeaker," commented Peter Tribeman, President and founder of Atlantic Technology.

The Atlantic Technology 44-DA loudspeaker will be available in the 4th quarter of 2014 at Atlantic dealers nationwide, at an MSRP of $499/pair.


The new 44-DA speaker will be on display at Atlantic's CEDIA booth #1386.

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When I received the email posted above, I immediately called AT and pressed #X for for sales. When a woman answered the phone, I asked about plans for a similar Atmos add-on for my 8200eSR speakers. I was then informed in an unpleasant way that there are no current plans to create such system. I explained how that was disappointing given my investment in the 8200 series and that I'd have to downgrade to get that kind of add-on for Atmos. The person on the phone was unapologetic and came across with a "too ****ing bad" attitude. The call left a pretty bad taste in my mouth--mostly because of her attitude.

Anyway, it looks like they have no plans for 8200 Atmos updates anytime soon.

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I'd seen a prototype of those height modules at CES back in January. At the time they really matched the 4400, including matching grill cloth in the front (even though the driver was on top). Since then, the look has been changed to make it a universal height module that can be placed atop any speaker and even as a stand-alone height module that can be placed nearby (within 3 feet of the main speaker) on a shelf or TV/equipment stand.

Though there wasn't much info about these "virtual height" speakers at CES, I recently asked Atlantic about them. Apparently they had been quietly working with Dolby for a couple of years on these (talk about early Atmos licensee!).

In fact, when Scott Wilkinson interviewed speaker designer Andrew Jones from Pioneer on his podcast about Atmos-enabled speakers, Jones mentioned that he was skeptical until he heard the CEDIA 2013 Atmos demo, which impressed him enough that it started him on the path to his own version. What he heard at that 2013 demo that convinced him was an early prototype of these Atlantic height modules. I think they were even used by Dolby to demonstrate home Atmos to all their international offices.

The ones I saw at CES in January had a small single driver pointing up. Apparently that's been changed to a larger coax in order to have better bass response and a wider dispersion (larger ceiling spot) than other manufacturers have.

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Anyway, it looks like they have no plans for 8200 Atmos updates anytime soon.
The upward-firing Atmos-enabled speakers don't work on sloped ceilings. More useful in your room would be small height speakers mounted above the seating area.

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The upward-firing Atmos-enabled speakers don't work on sloped ceilings. More useful in your room would be small height speakers mounted above the seating area.
As I discovered, you are correct sir! (as always)

Of course that doesn't mean that I no longer want to add matching AT Atmos speakers to my HT.

You probably don't remember but I have heights already in place as part of my 7.1 but they are forward of the listening position. It looks like my only potential solution will be to add downward firing speakers, mounting them in rafters beams. But that's gonna be a PITA and thus will probably never happen..

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President & CEO of Atlantic Technology Peter Tribeman called me yesterday afternoon after seeing my post here and did a great job addressing my concerns my experience his customer support person. He also gave me a huge download of information about AT, Dolby, their thinking behind the development of this speaker, and why they did what they did. Super nice guy. All is well with the world.

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Of course that doesn't mean that I no longer want to add matching AT Atmos speakers to my HT.
My point was that your room would be better off with real height speakers (small AT speakers) than Atmos-enabled upward-firing speakers (AT height modules). Atlantic makes both, but your ceiling doesn't support the use of virtual heights.
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You probably don't remember but I have heights already in place as part of my 7.1 but they are forward of the listening position.
I do remember them and I think you should leave them in place. Even with a new AV receiver, those speakers at that location can still be used for DSX, Neo:X, Atmos, and Dolby Surround (their new upmixer that replaces PLIIz).

IF you can get another pair of those same speakers and mount them above and slightly behind the listeners, you should end up with good overhead imaging when playing back an Atmos-encoded movie. The fact that your rear speakers are at ear height means you will have excellent separation between sounds around you vs sounds above you.

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President & CEO of Atlantic Technology Peter Tribeman called me yesterday afternoon after seeing my post here and did a great job addressing my concerns my experience his customer support person. He also gave me a huge download of information about AT, Dolby, their thinking behind the development of this speaker, and why they did what they did. Super nice guy. All is well with the world.
Performance wise, I would assume this new Atmos speaker is compatible with the 8200e speakers even if it doesn't cosmetically match?

What's the smallest height speaker Atlantic Tech makes that would match up with the 8200e? I tried a pair of the 1400srz surrounds as height speakers but blew them out after only a couple hours of use ...so those are probably off the list! Which is a shame since they are so compact ...the ideal size for mounting on the ceiling for use as a Atmos speaker.

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Performance wise, I would assume this new Atmos speaker is compatible with the 8200e speakers even if it doesn't cosmetically match?

What's the smallest height speaker Atlantic Tech makes that would match up with the 8200e? I tried a pair of the 1400srz surrounds as height speakers but blew them out after only a couple hours of use ...so those are probably off the list! Which is a shame since they are so compact ...the ideal size for mounting on the ceiling for use as a Atmos speaker.
I am currently running my 8200e's in an 11.3 setup.

LCR and Surrounds 8200e's
Back,height and wides 4400's
Subs 3x 642e's

The 4400's do an amazing job and i think they are a perfect match, hope this helps.

I know it's not the smallest height speaker but at least they are THX certified and match the 8200e's and i usually listen to my movies near reference with powered amps so i don't want to damage less capable speakers.

And i am sure down the road in 1-2 years i could use the two height and two wides for Atmos if i wanted to.
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I am currently running my 8200e's in an 11.3 setup.

LCR and Surrounds 8200e's
Back,height and wides 4400's
Subs 3x 642e's

The 4400's do an amazing job and i think they are a perfect match, hope this helps.

I know it's not the smallest height speaker but at least they are THX certified and match the 8200e's and i usually listen to my movies near reference with powered amps so i don't want to damage less capable speakers.
I'm running a 11 channel setup as well ...8200e system with additional 4400sr for heights and 4400lr for wides. I guess I was wondering if there's something smaller than the 4400sr to use as atmos speakers. The 4400sr seems too heavy/bulky for use as a ceiling speaker ...but I'm sure I will find a way once I move to an Atmos setup.

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And i am sure down the road in 1-2 years i could use the two height and two wides for Atmos if i wanted to.
I just bought a Marantz AV8801 last month so will probably be a couple of years before I seriously look into upgrading to an Atmos setup. I haven't been following too closely, but was under the impression that the height and width channels would be used in addition to the atmos ceiling channels?

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